It's pretty clear to me. The Radeon Pro 580 is a re-branded RX580. That card directly competes with nVidia's GTX 1060 6gb. That's an entry level card for 1080p gaming. Those cards are not designed for 1440p and 4k resolutions. For 700 bucks I wouldn't call that a bargain. Now if it had a Vega 56, or 64 that would be different, because those chips compete with the high end 1070/1080 cards, but fail to compete against Nvidia's flagship 1080ti.
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It's pretty clear to me. The Radeon Pro 580 is a re-branded RX580. That card directly competes with nVidia's GTX 1060 6gb. That's an entry level card for 1080p gaming. Those cards are not designed for 1440p and 4k resolutions. For 700 bucks I wouldn't call that a bargain. Now if it had a Vega 56, or 64 that would be different, because those chips compete with the high end 1070/1080 cards, but fail to compete against Nvidia's flagship 1080ti.
Yea, but if you're using an e-gpu solution, chances are you're going to be running in Windows anyways, right?
If you're buying this for client work, $700 is nothing so even if it gets upgraded next year, it's only $700 - like buyng a SSD (both a writeoff) - the fact that Apple help create an integrated unit that is supported by MacOS is important and worth the few hundred bucks extra.
Meh. I got cMP 5,1 with dx 580 for way cheaper price than that....
Good catch.Uhh oh, did they forget to change it from "RX580" to "Radeon PRO 580"? No custom bios?
Where has it been debunked? There isn't even enough 1-way bandwidth for a higher end card, let alone both ways.
Here's an article on AI where they did some testing:
https://appleinsider.com/articles/1...ssive-but-six-more-months-will-make-it-better
But, I know there was another article that measured the loss under various conditions and TB port types. TB3 is *just* enough bandwidth not to limit most GPUs too heavily.
But I thought Apple designed these non existent MBP thermal throttling issues on purpose to force people to buy iPads..
Note, while I agree in terms of FPS, pros do want to upgrade a GPU if it will shave time off a preview or rendering. Saving time is to pros what FPS is to gaming, in a way.
BUT, as you say, they'd just buy the new Blackmagic v2 with XYZ card in it a year from now (assuming people like Blackmagic continue to make newer, better models). Then this one gets moved to another machine or sold/put in storage.
Perfect for Apple. Not wanted by the Pro market. When will they EVER get it right?
The pro market does NOT WANT THIS BS! There won't even be an Apple pro market when Tim Cook gets done with his grand Animoji scheme to conquer the world! UGH! Somebody STOP ME!
The pro market does NOT WANT THIS BS! There won't even be an Apple pro market when Tim Cook gets done with his grand Animoji scheme to conquer the world! UGH! Somebody STOP ME!
No, it's not January anymore, we're in July now, and you can get a Vega 56 for $480. I'm sure a manufacturer would be able to get them direct for even less.
You're being deliberately misleading. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod...61&cm_re=radeon_rx_580-_-14-125-961-_-Product
The markup is $440 using the above link; I hope you don't seriously expect people to believe that a manufacturer is going to go and buy the most expensive variety they can find on Newegg (which isn't even sold by Newegg, but a third party). That's not the actual cost of a Radeon 580.
--Eric
What's also interesting is the Vega lineup is not really geared towards mainstream, just like the Nvidia Titan lineup. They're more for deep learning, special purpose. I guess you could say the "semi-pro" lineup before the Quadros and FirePros.
No it doesn’t. Their website is clear on that. You can hack some plists and get it to sort of work in a kludgy way, but it’s not supported.
This isn't hyperbole. It's the most ridiculous apple promoted crap I have seen. Sure a laptop and phone can't be upgraded because you are trading thinness but the point of an external GPU is so you can upgrade it.
I don’t understand, are you saying you do not utilize the card when running 3d software (or even playing games) on an external monitor?
Come oooon, Apple, don't be so harsh with NVIDIA. Bring back your official support to NVIDIA!!! We want NVIDIA. We want Vulkan. We want OpenGL. We want OpenCL. We want CUDA. We don't want Metal.We don't want your departure from the standards that you used to support. Period.
It's Apple. There has to be a cynical, consumer hostile barb to every product.