I think you're arguing about something else. I'm not arguing about port selection here.
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Hands-On With Apple's New MagSafe Duo Charger for iPhone 12 and Apple Watch
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I think you're arguing about something else. I'm not arguing about port selection here.
We're already in the world of too many 5W chargers. Including chargers in everything would just continue down that same path.
Also, the USB-C charge wattage seems to be constantly changing. With 5W chargers, it remained the same over the years. You knew when you got a new iPhone, the 5W is enough to keep the phone indefinitely powered regardless if you played a game 10 hours straight. Now we're in the world where Apple had to upgrade the 29W to 30W or else the 29W charger couldn't keep the MacBook Air 13" powered under load indefinitely. And we're already seeing a lot of people replacing their 18W chargers so that they can get the full MagSafe speed by using a 20W so the proof is already there.
Cords use a fraction of the materials of a charger, take a fraction of space in the box, doesn't increase the cost of the product that much to the user, AND they remain consistent over the years so re-usability is high. USB-C chargers, not so much.
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I don’t think so. They don’t match aesthetically. Steve Jobs nor Apple would ever sell a black wall plug with the white dual charger.
Memory is always rose-tinted. I remember at that time not only all charging bricks were not compatible with each other, they were also as big as a truck, ran super hot (the "coil-type" transformers) and when it broke down you needed to spend a lot of money to get a replacement from the manufacturer which may or may not be available.
Goto deal sites like slickdeals, search for 20W deal threads. Then within the threads, search for 18w. You can find posts claiming to have 18W but bought the 20W anyways.
Also doing a quick search on this forum yields many results. You can even see the person I'm replying to bought it even though already has an 18w. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...r-20w-charger-apple-store-experience.2264812/
And I have a few friends upgrading their 18w to 20w.
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Silly question here - but would ANY 20W+ charger work with this and get the speeds etc or does it have to be the Apple one?
I have this - would this get me the max speeds? Not massively bothered about speeds but just interested.
I have this - would this get me the max speeds? Not massively bothered about speeds but just interested.
Anker USB C Charger, 60W PIQ 3.0 & GaN Tech Dual Port Charger, PowerPort+ Atom III (2 Ports) Travel Charger with a 45W USB C Port
Something being overpriced doesn’t not make it a good product. It’s a very convenient product that you won’t find a other that’s as compact and as ideal for travelling or for having something taking up limited space
I received the Duo charger yesterday and am generally happy with it despite the high price. My only suggestion is that Apple should make two versions — swapping the positions of the watch and phone charger — since it is tougher to reach the iPhone side when lying down for those that have their nightstands on the left side of their bed.
Most other chargers should work. I used an Anker 20W nano charger with the standard MagSafe charging puck and it actually charged a bit faster than the Apple charger. Note that you’ll need a more powerful charger for the MagSafe Duo to get the maximum 14W charging rate.
That makes no sense. Apple decides to release something like MagSafe without a brick to save the environment, but only allows their 20W brick to supply the full power which requirs people that want that to go out and buy another charging brick? The proof is that people aren't wanting to go out and buy another brick, Apple is forcing them to buy it if they want to get the full charge capabilities of their MagSafe charger. Its not a limitation of the 18W charger, its a limitation set by Apple so that ONLY their 20W charger that people will have to go buy will supply the full power to MagSafe. People wouldn't be throwing away their 18W chargers if Apple would just allow those chargers to supply the full power to MagSafe. They don't, and want people to go buy a new brick from them.
How do cords remain consistent over the years if Apple just started changing the cord to lightning to usb-c last year for iPhones? Its not consistent simply because Apple chooses to not make it consistent. Every other year has been lighting to USB-A before the iPhone 11. That to me isn't consistent with anything outside of people needing to buy new charging bricks now if they want to use the cord that comes with their phone.
For the record, I am not one of these people that cares that Apple removed the charger. My only issue is with those that think this was done for environmental reasons. It absolutely was not. Apple can't say "We are not including charging bricks because there are too many of them in the world and we want to do our part for the environment" while at the same time release a entire new ecosystem of charging accessories that require people to buy a new brick for them to work at their full capacity. If Apple was so concerned about the environment I highly doubt they would be releasing an entire new line of chargers encouraging people to replace their old form of charging their phone.
Its ridiculous to think it was done for any other reason that money. And that's fine, but the environment nonsense wears thin on me.
Went with this instead. Charges AirPods also
Wonsidary Wireless Charger,10 W Fast Wireless Charging Station 3 in 1 for Apple Watch, Airpods Pro, Airpods with Wireless Charging Case, iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max/XR/XS/Xs Max/X/8 Plus/8 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086BP8DPR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_JY4YFbKXNGSMH
Wonsidary Wireless Charger,10 W Fast Wireless Charging Station 3 in 1 for Apple Watch, Airpods Pro, Airpods with Wireless Charging Case, iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max/XR/XS/Xs Max/X/8 Plus/8 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B086BP8DPR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_JY4YFbKXNGSMH
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I’m not sure where you got me saying “no Steve Jobs” from that. Obviously Steve Jobs was a genius, who had many great ideas, and who change the world.
but let’s not pretend that Apple was perfect under him. They still had overpriced products, they still made ridiculous decisions, and they’re very similar today than they were 10 years ago when he was alive.
Yes, but many of them offer some significant benefits. For example, the Nomad Base Station Apple Watch Edition charges an Apple Watch and two other devices. I need a 3-device charger ideally for iPhone + AirPods + Apple Watch, but the Duo still interests me.
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I had the Nomad 3 in 1 charger and having to align my phone and AirPods just perfectly in the charging pad in order for them to charge was super annoying.
I had a suspicion there was a catch to how nice it looked, I’ve been debating one of them to clean up the nightstand but I may just keep looking.😞 Thanks for sparing me the disappointment!
I stopped using mine as was a completely pain to charge and it Never alligned properly.
I would be interested in how big the power adaptor is for the new Belkin. I had a Belkin Boost unit and the power adaptor was relatively large.
I purchased the MagSafe Duo and really like it. I am using it with the 20W adapter. I am in an older NYC apartment building with both limited outlets and limited outlet access. That’s why the MagSafe Duo works so well for me.
I purchased the MagSafe Duo and really like it. I am using it with the 20W adapter. I am in an older NYC apartment building with both limited outlets and limited outlet access. That’s why the MagSafe Duo works so well for me.