Hands-On With CarPlay in iOS 13: Everything That's New

[Bugdozer]

Really wish apple maps offered satellite view. I use google maps because they do.

 

[kimguroo]

I like Apple CarPlay but I am not impressed HUD. Slow response to touch.
I want Ipad and iPhone like touching responses.
Apple should make HUD and sell to both consumers and automakers.

 

[brilliantthings]

It's in beta. Apps still need to be updated.

Not really what I'm asking. Has Apple made this Dash feature available to third party app developers.

 

[twistedpixel8]

iOS 13 has the ability for a second video stream to an alternate screen (like a HUD or your instrument cluster). It'll be interesting to see what data gets displayed to these screens, but that's going to be up to the manufacturer to implement (activate).

And we all know that means that it will be reserved for new cars as an incentive to upgrade

I would love if my 6 week old car would get an update to allow CarPlay to display turn-by-turn directions on my digital dash but I’d put money on it never happening.

 

[stopthenonsense]

I have a very old car so bear with me a second because I'm thinking of buying a newer car soon: Do any of these new features mean that they'll work on *current* cars with CarPlay support, or would the manufacturers/dealerships also need to update something on their end?

No, CarPlay is just a second screen for your iPhone that shows you CarPlay stuff (if you do a screenshot while on CarPlay, it will take two pictures... one of your phone screen and one of CarPlay screen). So as long as you have CarPlay, you have the newest version.

 

[bryn0076]

Fun fact: The home screen layout is reversed in Australia - I assume for all right-hand drives.

Does anybody know where to find a nice ‘dock’ that I can install to, er... dock & go...?

 

[stopthenonsense]

Am I imagining it, or didn’t iOS12 have an option in Settings>CarPlay on iPhone to rearrange the apps on the CarPlay screen? There’s now an editable list view, but as my Audi doesn’t have a touchscreen (it has a scroll wheel) I can’t see how to rearrange apps on the CarPlay screen.

From the CarPlay settings in your iPhone settings.
[doublepost=1566001589][/doublepost]If only CarPlay would come up every time I plug in my phone... and then, if only Siri could actually do what you asked. (when I ask for directions to the gym, I don't need the yelp ratings!)

 

[Larryt10]

And we all know that means that it will be reserved for new cars as an incentive to upgrade

I would love if my 6 week old car would get an update to allow CarPlay to display turn-by-turn directions on my digital dash but I’d put money on it never happening.

I’d like that as well, but why do you think it’ll never happen? And what are your thoughts on high quality turn-by-turn directions like Tesla used to provide on their model S, which was also on the digital dash: https://images.app.goo.gl/zHkWKUMjEp1hB5ri6

 

[DCJ001]

I have a very old car so bear with me a second because I'm thinking of buying a newer car soon: Do any of these new features mean that they'll work on *current* cars with CarPlay support, or would the manufacturers/dealerships also need to update something on their end?

You can have a CarPlay stereo installed in your old car for $400 or less, and you would be able to use all of the new features.

 

[triangletechie]

I just had CarPlay installed on my Mazda CX-5 last week. Excited to check out the updated interface next month.

 

[DCJ001]

****ING FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now you can text at a stop light
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I already send and receive messages while I drive.

CarPlay allows me to use Siri to prepare messages, and Siri reads new messages.

 

[LordTyroxx]

I have a physical "Map" button in my head unit on my car, which when pressed with carplay running launches apple maps, wish there was a way to define what the default map app was in car play so that it would launch waze instead.

I've been running the beta CarPlay. My car (mazda) has physical buttons for music and navigation. A new change in the beta includes that when you click one of those buttons, it takes you to the most recent nav or music app. It's SO much better than how it was before.

 

[DCJ001]

I'd like to know if Google Maps can take advantage of the Dash view

Only Apple Maps, for now.

 

[DCJ001]

Fun fact: The home screen layout is reversed in Australia - I assume for all right-hand drives.

Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere.

Water swirls down drains in the opposite direction in Australia too.

 

[elasticmedia]

If an automaker does not have smartphone integration, then CarPlay is fantastic, but if you happen to own a car with high quality smartphone integration, like BMW, then CarPlay is total junk.

One of the worst features of CarPlay I've see, with the cars I sometimes rent, is the lack of a proper night mode on the map when driving at night. On my personal car, my maps, that are far better quality than the CarPlay maps, automatically change to a "night mode" versus CarPlay shining its "mapping spotlight" in my eyes.
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The list of CarPlay's deficiencies is too long to list when you compare CarPlay to smartphone integration from companies that have been enhancing their smartphone integration for over a decade.

CarPlay on my Bolt automatically toggles between day mode and night mode already, depending on the darkness or whether you are in a tunnel.

 

[Steve0916]

So they STILL haven’t added a feature to turn off music auto play when the phone is connected to the car???

 

[blucable]

I have a very old car so bear with me a second because I'm thinking of buying a newer car soon: Do any of these new features mean that they'll work on *current* cars with CarPlay support, or would the manufacturers/dealerships also need to update something on their end?

I've been messing with carplay a lot and I've been following every update. I think CarPlay actually lives in your phone. If you have a phone with iOS13 and plug it into a carplay supporting car then you'll see the new cool looking carplay. If you plug a phone with iOS12 then you'll see the old carplay. I have a 2016 honda civic coupe EXL and I totally love the new carplay in my car. All that I have been asking for a year seems to have been delivered with this new update.

 

[Pismo]

Does CarPlay in iOS 13 now allow you to delete old text messages or stop showing messages that were already deleted from the phone?

 

[kasei]

I like CarPlay. I just wish Maps worked with my Heads Up Display. I use everything else on CarPlay but maps.

 

[calzon65]

Okay, but you still didn't asnwer the question...what aspect was better with your beamer?

Here is my CarPlay "flame" post from a year and a half ago, there is some information there.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...etroit-auto-show.2026668/page-4#post-24349813

I think I forgot to mentioned in my original CarPlay "flame" post, that BMW's smartphone integration, in addition to their other methods for integrating with the iPhone like steering wheel controls and their iDrive controller, also include several well placed buttons on the center console for selecting Maps, Media, Phone, Settings, etc. This allows a driver to rapidly jump between different map, car or phone functions without taking your eyes off the road or having to mess with a touch screen (like with CarPlay).

You pay a lot of money for a BMW and for that money, one would expect a significantly better smartphone integration. So I will admit that it's probably a bit unfair to compare CarPlay functionality with the kind of smartphone integration you get from companies BMW, Mercedes, and Audi. Yes, we do pay a lot for that integration and BMW's mapping system is not cheap at about $1,500, but it smokes CarPlay mapping.

CarPlay is a great alternative for car manufacturers that don't want to invest significant resources into smartphone integration and focus on being a car company. The car manufacturers I mentioned above have spent tens of millions of dollars and over a decade working on their highly integrated smartphone solutions. So I admit, I'm spoiled by the kind of smartphone integration from BMW and am still a little pissed I spent about $400 for CarPlay to only have the dealer disable it (I was the first person at my dealership to purchase CarPlay, so nobody knew what to expect and since I'm a bit of an iPhone fanboy, I just wanted it because it was Apple). In the end, when I hear folks drone on about how fantastic CarPlay is, I roll my eyes and think, you don't know what you are missing in high-end smartphone integration.

 

[bluespark]

If an automaker does not have smartphone integration, then CarPlay is fantastic, but if you happen to own a car with high quality smartphone integration, like BMW, then CarPlay is total junk.

One of the worst features of CarPlay I've see, with the cars I sometimes rent, is the lack of a proper night mode on the map when driving at night. On my personal car, my maps, that are far better quality than the CarPlay maps, automatically change to a "night mode" versus CarPlay shining its "mapping spotlight" in my eyes.
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The list of CarPlay's deficiencies is too long to list when you compare CarPlay to smartphone integration from companies that have been enhancing their smartphone integration for over a decade.

CarPlay maps have a great night mode and do change automatically in a supported vehicle.

 

[iPhonefreak79]

This is a phenomenal update!

 

[name99]

I like Apple CarPlay but I am not impressed HUD. Slow response to touch.
I want Ipad and iPhone like touching responses.
Apple should make HUD and sell to both consumers and automakers.

God, we all want that.
If Beats made a head unit, I expect it would sell in MASSIVE numbers...

 

[Altis]

CarPlay maps have a great night mode and do change automatically in a supported vehicle.

Is the night mode for maps more contrasted? In the video, the camera didn't even pick up on the super thin and light road lines. It's great that you have to stare at it long enough for your eyes to adjust and try to make out the poorly designed map.

Have only tried the iOS 12 version with the Mercedes MBUX. Found it to be much slower and way cheaper looking than the in-car system -- though to be fair, MB really did a good job on the new system.

 

[cyb3rdud3]

Here is my CarPlay "flame" post from a year and a half ago, there is some information there.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...etroit-auto-show.2026668/page-4#post-24349813

I think I forgot to mentioned in my original CarPlay "flame" post, that BMW's smartphone integration, in addition to their other methods for integrating with the iPhone like steering wheel controls and their iDrive controller, also include several well placed buttons on the center console for selecting Maps, Media, Phone, Settings, etc. This allows a driver to rapidly jump between different map, car or phone functions without taking your eyes off the road or having to mess with a touch screen (like with CarPlay).

You pay a lot of money for a BMW and for that money, one would expect a significantly better smartphone integration. So I will admit that it's probably a bit unfair to compare CarPlay functionality with the kind of smartphone integration you get from companies BMW, Mercedes, and Audi. Yes, we do pay a lot for that integration and BMW's mapping system is not cheap at about $1,500, but it smokes CarPlay mapping.

CarPlay is a great alternative for car manufacturers that don't want to invest significant resources into smartphone integration and focus on being a car company. The car manufacturers I mentioned above have spent tens of millions of dollars and over a decade working on their highly integrated smartphone solutions. So I admit, I'm spoiled by the kind of smartphone integration from BMW and am still a little pissed I spent about $400 for CarPlay to only have the dealer disable it (I was the first person at my dealership to purchase CarPlay, so nobody knew what to expect and since I'm a bit of an iPhone fanboy, I just wanted it because it was Apple). In the end, when I hear folks drone on about how fantastic CarPlay is, I roll my eyes and think, you don't know what you are missing in high-end smartphone integration.

It is still just a rant with one subjective opinion in there; i.e. you think the BMW maps look nicer...You can just use a different navigation map with CarPlay if you don't like the Apple formatting....

Anyway it is absolutely fine to prefer one system over another, just a shame you don't seem to qualify it beyond personal preference yet then continue to exclaim that CarPlay is trash...

PS Mine is an AMG, and when I bought it two years ago CarPlay wasn't available The Burmeister speakers and amps are great but the UI really doesn't do it for me.