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Hands-On With Samsung's New Galaxy Fold
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Ok, so flex-screen tech is a thing. In time, like all tech, it will improve.
So forget the folding concept. At the end of the day, folding is but one way to extend the size of a device.
Might be interesting to explore more of a scroll screen concept. Much like a tape measure - where the screen rolls in and out of the housing/device. The device is the height and width of the 11 Pro. When users press-and-release the right side of the device (?) or a software option (??) - it allows the device to expand to the right with a flex screen that rolls out to the right - doubling the width of the device.
It would be interesting to see Apple’s thinking on such things. Doesn’t seem something we’ll see from them anytime soon.
So forget the folding concept. At the end of the day, folding is but one way to extend the size of a device.
Might be interesting to explore more of a scroll screen concept. Much like a tape measure - where the screen rolls in and out of the housing/device. The device is the height and width of the 11 Pro. When users press-and-release the right side of the device (?) or a software option (??) - it allows the device to expand to the right with a flex screen that rolls out to the right - doubling the width of the device.
It would be interesting to see Apple’s thinking on such things. Doesn’t seem something we’ll see from them anytime soon.
Until it's glass, I'm not interested. The device rules are essentially "don't do anything to it and barely touch it"
Too many compromises.
Too many compromises.
This thing is genius. If you put it in your pocket with some change and the screen breaks, it's your fault. Heck if you put it in your pocket at all, it'll probably break due to excess pressure - and again that's your fault, since you were told to use a "light touch". Drop this once and it has to be game over - again your fault. Samsung will make money hand over fist, and within months there won't be any operational devices out in the wild that they will even have to support.
I get it's a $2000 luxury device, but I can't afford it and a valet with white gloves on to use it for me.
I get it's a $2000 luxury device, but I can't afford it and a valet with white gloves on to use it for me.
Many people are impressed with innovation and pushing boundaries. This is where I remember Jobs praising Apple for being as proud of some of the products they did not bring to market as they did because it showed discipline. Anyone can bring a prototype to market. That’s not impressive that financially just a write off as free press or possibly negative press. Great companies take another companies prototype and make it into a real usable product. They take existing technology and make something amazing. This is not that. This is a lack of discipline. Samsung is a great company and their phones are amazing. But this is bad product management and an inability to say no.
Ummm. No. The iPhone had none of these problems when it was introduced. Or the iPod. The struggle they are experiencing comes from releasing a product before it’s even close to done.
This is what happens when Samsung doesn't have an Apple device to copy yet.
If I was ever in doubt that half the people in these forums are just Apple haters this thread is proof. I just don’t understand why.
That's why I'm paying $20/months Samsung Care for my Galaxy Fold. But my overall experience is quite positive. Some folks here are talking about Android tablets, but Galaxy Fold is NOT running Android tablet OS. It is running Samsung ONE UI which is totally different from tablets.
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My theory... Sadly, I think there are a lot of people who are perpetually unhappy in life, for a variety of reasons. And lashing out against a successful company, person, product, etc. gives them a blip of power and feel-good happiness that's otherwise is lacking in their lives. For a short period of time, anyway. And then the cycle repeats.
In case you hadn’t noticed the entire Internet is 90% negative. Negativity is the name of the game.
I would dispute the 90%, but believe it's a significant number. There are a lot of perpetually unhappy people out there who feel they haven't received a fair shake in life. And acting out in such a manner towards some successful person/comapny/product helps them deal with it.
Why are people so aggravated every time by competition? It benefits all of us. Would Apple have stepped up their cameras/night mode as much if it wasn't for Huawei/Google putting out much better previously?
I doubt it.
Can I imagine Apple releasing a product these days that is as fragile seeming as this? No...however those saying Samsung is too stubborn releasing something that clearly isn't working have forgotten about the MacBook keyboards over the past few years. I don't know a single person that says shaving off those few millimeters was worth it over the previous models offered.
If it takes a company like Samsung to invest the money into R&D and those bleeding edge consumers to spend $2k so the rest of us can have a nice folding phone in the future, I don't see the problem.
People just enjoy illogical arguments on here or something?
I doubt it.
Can I imagine Apple releasing a product these days that is as fragile seeming as this? No...however those saying Samsung is too stubborn releasing something that clearly isn't working have forgotten about the MacBook keyboards over the past few years. I don't know a single person that says shaving off those few millimeters was worth it over the previous models offered.
If it takes a company like Samsung to invest the money into R&D and those bleeding edge consumers to spend $2k so the rest of us can have a nice folding phone in the future, I don't see the problem.
People just enjoy illogical arguments on here or something?
I do not disagree but sticker value is not the true cost of ownership for many, equally you (not personal) cannot generally just say something is crap because it costs $2k and should be $1k when no OEM can put that amount of hardware together cheaper
I do note resale value is very country specific
and who wants to buy a 2nd hand device when there are no easy store front in the country or if your 2nd hand device has a warning that an unauthorised repair or replacement, we all know Apple policy on repairs Access to many services etc that are enjoyed easily especially in the US is not replicated elsewhere
Similarly just because a device is supported for a longer period than others begins a different user case scenarios we can only guess at for those that choose a cheaper device but renew more frequently and so on ..........
Different strokes for different folks and quoting top sticker price is way to simplistic argument
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I think you are assuming the idea of a folding phone has never occurred to Apple.
I wouldn't be shocked if Apple has at least a dozen (or more) prototypes of such a phone in their R&D labs, investing significant $ along the way. And has decided, likely due to ergonomic and other reasons, a folding phone is not ready for prime time.
Apple chooses to not release such a product. Samsung chooses to go ahead, it seems prematurely.
For me... A folding phone would be an extremely frustrating ergonomic experience. Apple made the right choice.
2000 bucks and I can break it with my fingernail?????? What a piece of hot garbage.
Also... lol at the folded phone... OMG that’s a massive design fail. The bezels...
Also... lol at the folded phone... OMG that’s a massive design fail. The bezels...
It costs 20 bucks per month to protect that fragile garbage?????? 20?????? OMG
I am sure they have many things in development. They are for better or worse more reserved in what they release. They just do not often push the envelope these days unless someone else in the industry forces them to (my camera example). It is the smarter choice and I would buy stock in Apple before Samsung if we were basing it just on consumer electronics, but do not pretend they are above releasing products that seem they could have used more time (hence my keyboard example). Samsung just has a worse track record these days (note battery issue...this folding issue).
Why would a folding phone be an extremely frustrating ergonomic experience though? Apple's large phones are already requiring two hands for many things just like everyone else. What's the difference? Plus, if Apple could make a successful folding phone, why would that be bad? Are you a person that hates Microsoft Surface products as well? People here used to say "who wants a tablet that thinks it's a laptop...or a laptop that thinks it's a tablet? What garbage!" Same people on here then lost their mind over how much they wanted the iPad pro with keyboard...
In a few years if Apple decides to release a folding phone, I'm sure the bandwagon jumpers will appear again and claim it's the thing they've always wanted and will change their life.
"Why would a folding phone be an extremely frustrating ergonomic experience though? Apple's large phones are already requiring two hands for many things just like everyone else."
Let's start with not wanting to carry a phone in my pocket that's thicker than my X. And from there having to unfold the phone to do anything; take a phone call; check my email/messages/weather/stocks/etc, engage my calculator, listen to music, and on and on. And especially, as I'm a photographer and make photos all the time, having to unfold my "camera" whenever I want to make a photo. Most things I do with my phone (other than make photos, or use my calculator) don't require two hands. To me that's huge.
"Are you a person that hates Microsoft Surface products as well?"
Hates Microsoft Surface products? What a truly bizarre question. No, I don't hate companies/products/etc. On tech forums that's the domain of people who are perpetually unhappy feeling they haven't received a fair shake in life and need to act out and "hate on" something in order to feel good about themselves. Thanks for asking though.
"In a few years if Apple decides to release a folding phone, I'm sure the bandwagon jumpers will appear again and claim it's the thing they've always wanted and will change their life."
Apple won't release a folding phone that's like what Samsung has released, for the ergonomic frustrations I mentioned above. I suspect Apple may release a phone where the screen can expand beyond it's normal state. But it won't be due to being unfolded. And it will be usable like a normal phone in it's normal state.