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I own both Galaxy Fold (unlocked silver) and iPhone 11 Pro; without any bias I can say that Galaxy Fold is a very well-built amazing phone, and kind of remind me the feeling of when I bought the first generation iPhone! I think Samsung did a great job on this. The phone is very well optimized and super classy in hand; which comes with elegant case and wireless earbuds in the box. We are in the new era of fold-able screen devices and it would be great to see a new fold-able iPhone next year too.
I stop reading at “well built”. I don’t know if you really own it, but it is an expensive joke with a plastic (plastic !!!) screen. For $2000.
 
Did you expect a foldable glass screen? You might have to wait for a very long time for that.
Exactly why the folding phone isn't going to work till someone figures this out. You can damage the folding screen with an accidental scrape of your fingernail. Guys can just trim their nails but I don't think women will cut their nails off just to have a folding phone.
 
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A folding iPhone would never exist until technology really is available.
And today it isn’t.
There is nothing innovative about a device you can’t basically use.

There have been many innovative devices that weren't really usable from just about every tech company. Remember Newton?

Often these sorts of products lead somewhere, but often they don't. Time will tell.
 
You forgot:
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Since Android on tablets is basically useless.

It's really not. I actually prefer my Android tablets over my iPad for getting stuff done. The iPad is too locked inside its little Apple world.

Granted, iPadOS fixes many of those shortcomings but there's still a few I can't do without (OpenPGP over NFC for SSH logins for one).
Did you expect a foldable glass screen? You might have to wait for a very long time for that.

Yeah glass can't possibly bend, imagine spinning a small fibre of it and making it into a cable for data transport. Totally impossible.
 
It's really not. I actually prefer my Android tablets over my iPad for getting stuff done. The iPad is too locked inside its little Apple world.

Granted, iPadOS fixes many of those shortcomings but there's still a few I can't do without (OpenPGP over NFC for SSH logins for one).


Yeah glass can't possibly bend, imagine spinning a small fibre of it and making it into a cable for data transport. Totally impossible.
Android as a productive operating system is dead on tablets. iPadOS, Windows, and ever ChromeOS have all surpassed Android as a tablet OS.
 
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Android as a productive operating system is dead on tablets. iPadOS, Windows, and ever ChromeOS have all surpassed Android as a tablet OS.
Android tablets are terrible. Even Android fanboys know this. The only thing that keeps Android in the tablet business is the sub $100 tablet. Apple just can't compete in that price area so when it's time for a cheap tablet for the kids it wins out.
 
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I own both Galaxy Fold (unlocked silver) and iPhone 11 Pro; without any bias I can say that Galaxy Fold is a very well-built amazing phone, and kind of remind me the feeling of when I bought the first generation iPhone! I think Samsung did a great job on this. The phone is very well optimized and super classy in hand; which comes with elegant case and wireless earbuds in the box. We are in the new era of fold-able screen devices and it would be great to see a new fold-able iPhone next year too.

Like most people, I use my phone primarily for viewing and/or interacting with what's on the screen rather than simply making/receiving calls. The more content I can work with, the better, so the concept of a display that's much larger than the dimensions of the device when it's folded is attractive.

My main worry is the Fold's durability. Unless you somehow got one in advance of release, you've only had it for a few days. That's way too soon to draw any reasonable conclusions about its ability to withstand the effects of real-world use, regardless of how well-built it appears. Samsung's warnings about taking using a light touch and avoiding dust and water add to my concerns.

I'm sure Apple is working on similar tech, but I'd be quite surprised to see anything as soon as next year.
 
I would have thought the first successful foldable device would be one that takes a device the size of an iPhone 8+ but folds it to essentially make it clamshell? With a tiny notification screen on one side?

I can sort of see the point of that, sort of, as phones this big aren’t very pocketable, and at that size it’d be just like a makeup compact. Offers an actual advantage in a certain way over the non folding models.

This thing? I can’t see how this isn’t both a bad phone and a bad tablet. I’m not drawing on a tablet with a crease in the middle and as a phone it looks really weird.
 
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Well considering that Android has a very accessible file system.... compared to iOS... that statement is a bit of a stretch to take serious
File system isn’t much use when there’s no decent software to run. Fisher Price Apps aren’t useful.
It's really not. I actually prefer my Android tablets over my iPad for getting stuff done. The iPad is too locked inside its little Apple world.

Granted, iPadOS fixes many of those shortcomings but there's still a few I can't do without (OpenPGP over NFC for SSH logins for one).
No, they are useless. Developers basically ignore them and there are practically no high-end Apps at all. Where’s Photoshop on Android? Oh right, it’s not coming.

You listing an obscure use case that most people will never use doesn’t suddenly make them useful.
 
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Yeah glass can't possibly bend, imagine spinning a small fibre of it and making it into a cable for data transport. Totally impossible.

You should research your analogies before making them public.

Minimum recommended bend radius for fiber optic cable is generally 10-15 times the cable diameter. The actual diameter of the glass fiber is generally around 125microns (about the diameter of hair) and the full jacketed diameter of the cable is 30-50 times that. So, the minimum recommended bend radius for the actual glass fiber is 300-750 times the bare fiber diameter. And that's for a single bend during installation, not repetitive bends during use.

Glass manufacturers are working on ways to lay down microscopically thin coatings of glass on more flexible plastic substrates (Schott has been doing this for years on the insides of pharmaceutical vials/bottles), but none have yet produced a laminate that would work for a tightly folding display.
 
All these sad people bashing this thing...

Samsung is trying to invent something completely new, of course the first version will be meh, but it's a start. Give it 3-4 years and it'll be great.
Give it three to four years, and one of two things will happen: Either Samsung finds there is no market to sell this profitably, or Apple will be selling something better.
And people think Apple’s notch is bad.
There was a rumour that Apple is working on a phone with a _tiny_ bezel containing everything that today is in the notch. Which also would be almost as large as this monstrosity when unfolded.
 
Think about it, instead of carrying a phone with a large footprint like those phablets which are getting ridiculous in size, you can carry a 5" screen phone that enlarges into a 10" screen tablet and back again whenever you want. That is convenience at its best. Right now the idea/concept is there, but the execution is lacking. BTW who is Simone? :D
Just saying: It doesn’t go from 5” to 10”. 10” would be four times the area. Unfolding only gets you from 5.0 to about 7.1 inch.
 
Here's a cool tablet you can fold up and put in your pocket.
PS: Don't put it in your pocket; it might get dirt in it.

LOL
 
I can see a folding phone being useful for work, judging by how great the Nintendo DS form factor worked. Just wouldn't buy an Android phone, especially from Samsung.
 
I can not see this device making it in the real world. People are not that gentle with stuff they will be using all day everyday. Touch the screen lightly...lol. Not going to happen. We are going to see screen failures left and right from the few that will actually buy this.
 
Glad to see the “fold” back on the market so Apple can perfect it’s purpose and hardware just like Apple has done since its inception. As a 30 year customer I’ve never cared whether Apple was an innovator more than I cared if they were the perfectors.

My first Mac cost me $6k - the MAC IIci - it ran at 25 MHz - I and my company sold $1million in creative work on that computer in our first year in business.

A foldable device for some / some of us is practical but for most of us it’s not - period.

Imagine “unfolding” that favorite Porn shot....

Seriously - in what application will this be truly truly useful ?? Clearly not so much in public lol.
 
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