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Man you keep repeating this but nobody was able to crack Note 8's or S9's Iris scanner. Just because a method worked with the S8 doesn't mean it's will work universally for ever with every Iris Scanner out there.
The same guys that cracked S8's iris scanner refuse to test their method on newer Samsung phones. That makes it very clear that it doesn't work anymore. It was never reliable anyway getting inconsistent results(as in it didn't work every time anyway)



No it's just your opinion.
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I clearly specified Note 8 and S9.

It's not an opinion, there is actual factual data that proves 3D mapping is more secure than iris scanning.

Here's your note 8. https://bgr.com/2017/09/05/galaxy-note-8-features-face-unlock-hacked-photo/
 
Man you keep repeating this but nobody was able to crack Note 8's or S9's Iris scanner. Just because a method worked with the S8 doesn't mean it's will work universally for ever with every Iris Scanner out there.
The same guys that cracked S8's iris scanner refuse to test their method on newer Samsung phones. That makes it very clear that it doesn't work anymore. It was never reliable anyway getting inconsistent results(as in it didn't work every time anyway)

And because no one cracked S8 iris scanner, you know it's better than Face ID? How, exactly?

BTW, they did hack the scanner on Note 8 if I remember correctly. But even if they didn't, the tech itself is more prone to trickery.

No it's just your opinion.

No, it's the opinion of security experts. Why does this bother you so much?
 
What's wrong with my link?
It shows that Samsung Pay works with the Iris Scanner while one user here claim it doesn't.

One user here made a mistake and admited immediately and well before that link, thank you. I assumed wrongly, based on the tech inside. So they decided to allow payments with Iris scanning. Ok. My bad.
 
Lol, won't go into who's actually better, I just thought it was a good example. But it even proves my point: there is no doubt Nadal is lower on the list, but he's still an amazing player (maybe even better, as you say). But people claiming Iris scanning is more secure is like claiming Nadal is, actually, first on the ATP list.
I’ve never bothered to read up on the two technologies to really gather which is the most secure. I haven’t actually seen much written about the iris scanner in terms of security. I know when it first came out the talk was more about how cool it was but considering I’m predominantly an Apple users I don’t read a lot of stuff about Samsung’s products. Most of what I know is from my own experiences of using their devices. I don’t actually care which one is more secure. I know Face ID is secure enough and I’m happy to use it. Iris scanning would be secure enough but I couldn’t get it to work reliably and anyhow I don’t have a Samsung device at the moment so it doesn’t really matter now.
 
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Yeah. To hell with old fashioned design philosophy and a proper unobstructed view of a display. Let's just copy the notch, but let's make it a unibrow. Yup, now that's cutting edge design. Pathetic.
Design is about trade-offs. Apple chose to make a device without bezels, so that it could maximize the screen size based on a smaller physical footprint that is easier to hold in hand. That made a small notch necessary. As screen technology improves, I am guessing that the notch will become smaller and smaller, and eventually those sensors will be able to exist underneath the screen with no notch at all. I agree with the design trade-offs and choices they made. They were tough choices, but as Apple has often done in the past, tough choices are what is needed to push technology and design forward. Many other companies are too cowardly to rock the boat and disrupt the status quo. If you don’t agree with the choices and trade-offs that Apple made with the iPhone X, don’t buy one. But please, stop pretending like you know anything about design, or that your opinion is anything more than just that.
 
I’ve never bothered to read up on the two technologies to really gather which is the most secure. I haven’t actually seen much written about the iris scanner in terms of security. I know when it first came out the talk was more about how cool it was but considering I’m predominantly an Apple users I don’t read a lot of stuff about Samsung’s products. Most of what I know is from my own experiences of using their devices. I don’t actually care which one is more secure. I know Face ID is secure enough and I’m happy to use it. Iris scanning would be secure enough but I couldn’t get it to work reliably and anyhow I don’t have a Samsung device at the moment so it doesn’t really matter now.

Agreed.
 
Lol, won't go into who's actually better, I just thought it was a good example. But it even proves my point: there is no doubt Nadal is lower on the list, but he's still an amazing player (maybe even better, as you say). But people claiming Iris scanning is more secure is like claiming Nadal is, actually, first on the ATP list.
I suppose you like Djokovic then?
 
And because no one cracked S8 iris scanner, you know it's better than Face ID? How, exactly?

BTW, they did hack the scanner on Note 8 if I remember correctly. But even if they didn't, the tech itself is more prone to trickery.

They didn't hack Note 8 iris scanner, they refused to do it even after direct requests. A guy that wrote them said they claim "it's not fun anymore" that's why they don't want to try it with newer Samsung phones.

Also a very very important detail Samsung's Iris Recognition can be used with one eye or 2 eyes and the method used on the S8 only worked with one eye.
No, it's the opinion of security experts. Why does this bother you so much?
No it's not.
 
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I suppose you like Djokovic then?

Lol. I kinda like him currently because he's trying really hard to get back up. An underdog thing. It's his own fault, though, going through that new-age, tree-hugging phase instead of doing the scientifically proven things.

But I don't really care he's from my country. I guess I'm weird that way. To be honest, I grew really tired from all the obsession over him here while he was at the top.

Talk about off-topics :)
 
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They didn't hack Note 8 iris scanner, they refused to do it even after direct requests. A guy that wrote them said they claim "it's not fun anymore" that's why they don't want to try it with newer Samsung phones.


As I said, doesn't mean it's more secure than Face ID. Look, both technologies have been around for a while. Apple didn't invent facial mapping. Samsung didn't invent iris scanning. They just made it work good on their phones, but the inherent benefits and flaws of both technologies have been known for quite some time. One is more secure than the other, whether the Note 8 was hacked or not.

No it's not.

Oh, ok, I guess someone should inform them they are wrong.
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Don't we all wish that only Apple was our only choice? Simple decisions for simple minded people.

No one in their right mind wants that. It just so happens that it's the best choice currently for some people.
 
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Face ID and Touch ID still better than Samsung's half-baked implementations.

Honestly I love the pressure sensitive home button on the Samsung phones. Still blows my mind Apple didn't do this first with how much they keep trying to implement Force Touch.
 
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It's not an opinion, there is actual factual data that proves 3D mapping is more secure than iris scanning.

Here's your note 8. https://bgr.com/2017/09/05/galaxy-note-8-features-face-unlock-hacked-photo/

Stop lying. The article you linked is from BGR (a troll site). It talks about facial Note 8's recognition. Nobody claims this one is secure. The same article also references hacking of S8's iris scanner. S8, not S9 or Note 8, get it? How many times do people need to call your BS?
 
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Seriously? Ask millions of iDevice owners who got burned by their devices having small RAM. Just check Macrumors forum.

Not saying having more RAM isn’t cool and all, but this forum has a long-standing tradition of overestimating RAM needs - for every type of device.
 
Lol. I kinda like him currently because he's trying really hard to get back up. An underdog thing. It's his own fault, though, going through that new-age, tree-hugging phase instead of doing the scientifically proven things.

But I don't really care he's from my country. I guess I'm weird that way. To be honest, I grew really tired from all the obsession over him here while he was at the top.

Talk about off-topics :)
I feel the same about Andy Murray.

Back on topic. I think the galaxy note 9 looks like a great phone, great specs and nothing to fault. However I’ll be getting the iPhone X plus.

I’m more interested to see what Samsung do with the S10 as it’s aippaed to be a breakthrough device for them and there’s also the galaxy X phone.
 
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As I said, doesn't mean it's more secure than Face ID. Look, both technologies have been around for a while. Apple didn't invent facial mapping. Samsung didn't invent iris scanning. They just made it work good on their phones, but the inherent benefits and flaws of both technologies have been known for quite some time. One is more secure than the other, whether the Note 8 was hacked or not.
Eliminating the vulnerability which allowed S8 iris scanner to be bypassed(which I'm sure Samsung did as the Iris Scanner in the Note 9 is 4th gen and no Iris Scanner past the S8 was ever hacked) makes Iris Unlocking inherently more secure than Face ID.

Oh, ok, I guess someone should inform them they are wrong.
Sure, someone should.
 
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