Definitely throwing my M2 away to get this M3 after this hands on review!
I had absolutely no idea the Airs throttled so heavily even with Apple Silicon.
Yeah I mean, I knew my Intel 2018 MBP throttles like crazy. And it never shows in Geekbench, the test is too quick. I knew comparing GB score to an M3 would actually be a whole magnitude more in real performance since the M3 wouldn’t throttle… or so I believed.It is starting to kinda smash through some of the "OMG AMAZING!" narratives about Apple Silicon
If you have powerful computers in your office and home, what do you need a laptop for?I live in NJ and commute into NYC 5 days a week. 2 NJT trains followed by the subway. When I'm in the city I move around a lot as we have more than one office location. I refuse to ever carry a laptop over 2.9LBS. The Pro is too big and heavy. And I have very powerful computers with massive screens in my office and home. So a laptop, for me is only to use on the go. I will never buy a pro unless it gets to the same size and weight as the Air. Portability is this single most import feature of laptops to me.
Did I say it’s impossible to include more ports? There is an obvious connection between thinness and ports: the thinner it is, the more compromises you have to make in order to include more ports.There's no connection between thinness and number of ports. Plenty of PC laptops have more ports and are not much different. What you have is Apple trying to gouge folk.
SD cards have been superseded by newer technologies. Instead of outdated SD card slot which belongs really to USB A era, USB-C is much more universal and allows for more types of memory attached and with much higher reader speed. Moreover, not everyone uses SD cards but most use USB peripherals. Having 2 USB-C slots and Magsafe is a solution which is pretty universal and flexible.
You would be happy to get better specs and the same price though.
That's the value problem which Apple fails through their price gouging by Tim Apple.
I had absolutely no idea the Airs throttled so heavily even with Apple Silicon. The whole line is obsolete for anything else other than sending email and Notes, imo.
Excuse me for the drastic conclusion but really, why do a fanless laptop if the silicon throttles so badly?
MacBook Pro screens are overrated.I don't understand why everyone is so enamored with the Macbook Pro screen.
I bought the 14" M1 model Macbook Pro when it first came out. I jumped on it. Finally, a replacement for my 2015 13" Macbook Pro. With Magsafe. But NO!
I saw a weird shimmering or glossiness on the screen. It's kinda hard to describe. It's especially noticeable when even slightly off axis. I couldn't stand it. Fortunately my daughter was eager to take it off my hands. I don't think the effect was because of the backlight PWM that people were complaining about, but maybe it was?
I recently went in to an Apple store with my old 2015 13" machine and compared screens against an M2 Macbook Air. Once I adjusted the newer machine to IIRC sRGB, the screens were very similar. I didn't feel the weird annoyance I previously had with the 14" Macbook Pro screen.
I now need to take my 2015 Macbook Pro back in and compare screens against the new M3 Macbook Air. Hopefully the display didn't change from the M2 version. My old machine is on its last legs, throwing up messages such as "Volume Hash Mismatch". I desperately need a replacement.
tl;dr: I like my old 2015 13" Macbook Pro screen much more than the M1 14" Macbook Pro screen.
Because I like to have my Air at my desk at work for personal things. And I use it while mobile, I will always have a 13" in laptop with me.If you have powerful computers in your office and home, what do you need a laptop for?
I keep my Pro in my house and have no need to travel with it. But if I need to once in a while, nbd.
We don’t live in that world either.We don't live in that world. Apple tried to get there but everyone wanted the ports back, so they brought them back but to only half the machines. They brought MagSafe back to MBA, but not SD Card. MBA should also have HDMI for maximum projector compatibility. The machine has 18 hours of battery life and is a great form factor/battery life combo for office workers, teachers, events and such, but needs a full complement of ports to excel in those worlds. MBP should be the power-house machine—get rid of the 'M3' version, including only M3 Pro and M3 Max options, and give MBA Air at least one of all of the ports MBP has. People who love the Air form factor should not have to suffer dongles.
That video actually makes the Air sound better to me, as even he seemed impressed. Running stress tests is not a normal usage scenario, but the Air actually did quite well.MacBook Air not perfect. I'm going with the m3 max studio. HEAT is a problem without Frans.
Actually, I think he likes Frans, since heat is a problem without Frans! You should never going shopping for a Mac without Frans.Does Frans know that you dont like him?![]()
Yes, if you just intend to run throttling tests all day, you definitely want a Mac with a fan. In the real world, though, you likely won't notice much difference. I have an M1 mini and an M1 Air and the mini will finish a long Handbrake conversion a bit faster, but I usually don't bother switching computers if I am on the Air already, because I would spend more time changing computers than the render difference. They are both much faster than my Intel Macs.I had absolutely no idea the Airs throttled so heavily even with Apple Silicon. The whole line is obsolete for anything else other than sending email and Notes, imo.
Excuse me for the drastic conclusion but really, why do a fanless laptop if the silicon throttles so badly? I’m glad I found out, now it’s definitely a mini I’m going for.
Sure. In this imaginary world of yours I’d love to get a 16GB/1TB with an M2 Pro chip for the price of an 8/256 M2. That would be awesome.You would be happy to get better specs and the same price though. That's the value problem which Apple fails through their price gouging by Tim Apple.
If you, in the real world, use your computer for actual work like video exports and compiling code, yes, of course you’ll see a difference. And if you don’t, why even have a laptop? You can surf and email from the phone.Yes, if you just intend to run throttling tests all day, you definitely want a Mac with a fan. In the real world, though, you likely won't notice much difference. I have an M1 mini and an M1 Air and the mini will finish a long Handbrake conversion a bit faster, but I usually don't bother switching computers if I am on the Air already, because I would spend more time changing computers than the render difference. They are both much faster than my Intel Macs.
I have a M1 MBA. Are the newer M3 MBA displays still the same or there has been some sort of improvement?MacBook Pro screens are overrated.
I wouldn't avoid buying a MacBook Pro if I needed the performance, or I had to edit HDR video, but I wouldn't spend extra just for the display to stream movies and television. I'm happy to stick with a MacBook Air display that is great all around. Its even better than your 2015 MacBook Pro display. For instance the contrast is now 1400:1 instead of 900:1, and is now 10-bit and 500 nits instead of 8-bit and 400 nits.
- If a screen is 120Hz, then the pixel response needs to be 8.3 ms or lower—but the MacBook Pros have pixel responses about 70-80 ms, which is 8-10x too slow for proper 120 frames per second
- In other words, ProMotion promises clarity during motion but instead its more blurry than a MacBook Air (which has a pixel refresh of 33 ms). This is an iPad Pro, but an excellent example of what I'm talking about.
- The point of mini LED is that it promises that when your indoor lighting is low, you can see black levels in your videos that are as good as OLED
- Except the blooming around light and white objects means its totally distracting, especially if you're viewing the display off-axis which accentuates blooming. See results here and here. Notice the ghosting as people move—that is totally distracting. Why would I pay for that?
-Because it's easier to carry around a MacBook Air then a Studio, espeacially outdoors.If you have powerful computers in your office and home, what do you need a laptop for?
I keep my Pro in my house and have no need to travel with it. But if I need to once in a while, nbd.
Just like SJ’s two sizes of iBooks and two or three sizes of PowerBooks.This is "Tim Cook Apple" operating exactly as intended
Pure SKU confusion -- just come in and "buy something" ... "anything"
I don't even think it is just that. At least in my bubble, almost nobody buys Apple's dongles. I think a lot of it is just arrogance. Apple went all in on USB-C, and adding an USB-A port would be seen as admitting a mistake, even though almost everything I buy is still USB-C on one end of the charger and USB-A on the other. It's for the same reason that e.g. the "time remaining" prediction in the battery indicator is not coming back. Things have to get much worse before Apple backtracks just one step.There's no connection between thinness and number of ports. Plenty of PC laptops have more ports and are not much different. What you have is Apple trying to gouge folk.
They only throttle when you try to use them like the MacBook Pro you should have purchased instead. Purchase according to your needs, or accept the compromises which come with purchasing according to your wants.I had absolutely no idea the Airs throttled so heavily even with Apple Silicon. The whole line is obsolete for anything else other than sending email and Notes, imo.
Excuse me for the drastic conclusion but really, why do a fanless laptop if the silicon throttles so badly? I’m glad I found out, now it’s definitely a mini I’m going for.
My workload is constantly changing through the day so Time Remaining is as useless to me as a driving ETA calculated without accounting for hitting traffic and construction delays randomly throughout the trip.I don't even think it is just that. At least in my bubble, almost nobody buys Apple's dongles. I think a lot of it is just arrogance. Apple went all in on USB-C, and adding an USB-A port would be seen as admitting a mistake, even though almost everything I buy is still USB-C on one end of the charger and USB-A on the other. It's for the same reason that e.g. the "time remaining" prediction in the battery indicator is not coming back. Things have to get much worse before Apple backtracks just one step.
You’re not a meme, no one wants to change your mind.MBA should come in 13" and 14.2" sizes and have a proper port selection. Change my mind.
I was responding to someone else who used that same slogan.You’re not a meme, no one wants to change your mind.
I have a feeling that Apple has not removed the indicator out of careful consideration for your workflow, but because the last Intel MacBooks (2016+) were disappointing laptops. Getting HDMI back on the Pros was already a surprise to me.My workload is constantly changing through the day so Time Remaining is as useless to me as a driving ETA calculated without accounting for hitting traffic and construction delays randomly throughout the trip.
Not really. This has nothing to do with the excellent AS chips; this is all about taking responsibility for the choices you make.It is starting to kinda smash through some of the "OMG AMAZING!" narratives about Apple Silicon