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Under glass fingerprint will only get better. Hopefully Apple realizes that. I’ll never buy a notched device, nor one without fingerprint.
 
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Back before the iPhone X came out, there were rumors suggesting Apple would do away with the Home button by implementing Touch ID under the display of the device, preserving the fingerprint sensor while allowing for an edge-to-edge display.

That didn't end up happening and Apple ultimately replaced Touch ID with Face ID, but since then, other companies have implemented in-display fingerprint recognition technology.


OnePlus recently unveiled its new OnePlus 6T, one of the first commercially available smartphones in the United States that's using in-screen fingerprint recognition technology. We were able to get our hands on one of the new smartphones to see if Apple is missing out on anything with its Face ID implementation.

There are instances where a fingerprint sensor offers benefits over facial recognition. Face ID, for example, doesn't work well when you're laying in bed and the phone is held in landscape or when an iPhone is flat on a desk. With a fingerprint sensor, those are non-issues.

Fingerprint sensors have their own problems, though, and as we discovered with the OnePlus 6T, in-display fingerprint technology isn't as great as it sounds. OnePlus' implementation is slow and inaccurate, a major negative compared to Face ID.

With the OnePlus 6T, you need to make sure to place your finger in the designated spot on the display for your fingerprint to be recognized, and sometimes you need to hold it there for what seems like a long time before it reads the fingerprint. Touch ID and Face ID both unlock almost instantly, so the wait with the OnePlus 6T makes a huge difference.

Had Apple pursued in-display fingerprint technology its implementation might have been better than what OnePlus came out with, and there's still a chance the tech OnePlus is using will improve with software updates or future iterations, but we'll never know if Apple would have done it better.

Apple is all in on Face ID, which is now in both modern iPhones and iPads, and the company has said that other solutions, like in-screen or rear-facing Touch ID, were never under consideration once it decided to pursue Face ID.

Apple's Face ID technology is still so advanced that no other company, OnePlus included, has managed to match it as of yet. And in-display technology still has a ways to go, it seems, with most major Apple competitors instead opting for rear-facing fingerprint sensors as a way to achieve edge-to-edge displays.

Do you miss Touch ID and wish Apple would have worked towards an in-display fingerprint sensor, or do you prefer Face ID? Let us know in the comments.

Article Link: Hands-On With the In-Screen Fingerprint Technology in the New OnePlus 6T
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I like touch ID a lot - its fast and easy - in ways and circumstances where Face Id is not - I like both but i miss touch ID for sure even a after a year of face ID use in my iPhone X .
Have it in my iPad and love it


Back before the iPhone X came out,
Article Link: Hands-On With the In-Screen Fingerprint Technology in the New OnePlus 6T
 
I wish Face ID worked better at less-optimal angles; that’s my only complaint. Surprised that Face ID hasn’t found its way into new Macs like the MacBook Air. You would think it would be a logical inclusion.
 
I’m sure Apple will incorporate under-screen fingerprint ID as soon as they can. They’re probably working on it right now. They have a long history of loudly praising their current technology and pooh-poohing competing technologies and designs (as their fervent supporters take to the internet echoing the party line), only to reverse course completely with new products. Remember when they said phones were supposed to have only one screen resolution to avoid fragmentation? Remember when they said anything bigger than the original iPhone was too big? Remember when they said nobody wants to use a stylus? How about when big tablet bezels were supposed to be desirable because they helped you hold the tablet better? Apple will do the same with fingerprint technology and most of the loyalists here saying how great Face ID is will change their tune right along, just like always.
 
I honestly think the reason why iPhone doesn't have Touch ID anymore is because apple could not get the under glass Touch ID in time in combination with Face ID. Then full steam ahead with "Face ID is the future / replacement".

Apple is famous for never going back, so doubtful we will ever see Touch ID in iPhone again, even though a combination of the two would be killer.

Never go back?
Like backlid keyboard in 2010 MacBook Air?
Or buttons on iPod nano?

Agreed, both would be the best, but may be pricey, and the iphones are already heck expensive
 
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I don't think Apple will ever include under the screen fingerprint. There's already alot of complexity in these devices and it would also add more weight, cost and uses space. And all this for a redundant functionality. And FaceID will stay, because it can be used for other things, not just authentication.
But they will definitely improve Face ID

I wish Face ID worked better at less-optimal angles; that’s my only complaint. Surprised that Face ID hasn’t found its way into new Macs like the MacBook Air. You would think it would be a logical inclusion.

They would probably have to rewrite everything, because the MacBook has no Neural Engine. Unless they include it in a future T3 chip
 
Dan From MacRumors thinks Apple didn’t make a mistake with FaceID! Yay! Now I can finally relax and enjoy my phone.

Really, Dan? How about just making an assessment of the usability of the underscreen fingerprint sensor and leave it at that? No one wants or needs your approval for the defining, breakthrough smartphone technology of the past two years, FaceID.
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I don't think Apple will ever include under the screen fingerprint. There's already alot of complexity in these devices and it would also add more weight, cost and uses space. And all this for a redundant functionality. And FaceID will stay, because it can be used for other things too.
But they will definitely improve Face ID



They would probably have to rewrite everything, because the MacBook has no Neural Engine. Unless they include it in a future T3 chip
Every new MacBook, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air has a separate security chip. It would not require a huge redesign to add FaceID capabilities.
 
Dan From MacRumors thinks Apple didn’t make a mistake with FaceID! Yay! Now I can finally relax and enjoy my phone.

Really, Dan? How about just making an assessment of the usability of the underscreen fingerprint sensor and leave it at that? No one wants or needs your approval for the defining, breakthrough smartphone technology of the past two years, FaceID.
[doublepost=1541831048][/doublepost] Every new MacBook, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air has a separate security chip. It would not require a huge redesign to add FaceID capabilities.

No one needs your approval to post his/her opinion.
 
Seems incorrect.

“...or when an iPhone is flat on a desk”

Face ID is confirmed to work well while an iPhone is flat on a desk. We tested it 10 times. All 10 times, the iPhone X unlocked instantly.
 
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Face ID is a million times better for all those password prompts everywhere. I don’t have to react and/or shuffle my finger around to allow the keychain to be opened. It just happens. For me, this is much more important than just the millisecond differences in unlocking.
 
Under glass fingerprint will only get better. Hopefully Apple realizes that. I’ll never buy a notched device, nor one without fingerprint.
Not sure Apple will go back to an FPS, even under the screen as they were quite clear at the X keynote that face ID was the future and superior.
 
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In-Screen Fingerprint on OnePlus6T support Bank/Hotel etc App Logins?
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Face ID is a million times better for all those password prompts everywhere. I don’t have to react and/or shuffle my finger around to allow the keychain to be opened. It just happens. For me, this is much more important than just the millisecond differences in unlocking.

Seriously. I have participated in this debate between Face ID and Touch ID many times on this forum and this is exactly what I have to say every time. Face ID is pure seamless.

I had sold my iPhone X and was using iPhone 6 for one month. I was tired of Touch ID to use all over again. It was annoying and useless that you have to touch the phone every time. Face ID is just a breeze. You pick up the phone and boom, you're job's done.

I have 118 total logins which includes my cloud accounts, social media accounts, bank accounts, frequent flyer accounts, hotel membership accounts and just many random forum and websites too. For me, Face ID works brilliant!!!!

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I know for a fact that why Android OEMs are promoting In-Screen Fingerprint because they can't match 3D Face ID with TruDepth camera. Samsung tried with IRIS scanner but it's only the eyes and not the whole face. No other Android OEMs are near to Face ID. I think it's a very big deal which people don't appreciate about Apple.
 
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Seriously. I have participated in this debate between Face ID and Touch ID many times on this forum and this is exactly what I have to say every time. Face ID is pure seamless.

I had sold my iPhone X and was using iPhone 6 for one month. I was tired of Touch ID to use all over again. It was annoying and useless that you have to touch the phone every time. Face ID is just a breeze. You pick up the phone and boom, you're job's done.

I have 118 total logins which includes my cloud accounts, social media accounts, bank accounts, frequent flyer accounts, hotel membership accounts and just many random forum and websites too. For me, Face ID works brilliant!!!!

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I know for a fact that why Android OEMs are promoting In-Screen Fingerprint because they can't match 3D Face ID with TruDepth camera. Samsung tried with IRIS scanner but it's only the eyes and not the whole face. No other Android OEMs are near to Face ID. I think it's a very big deal which people don't appreciate about Apple.
Probably not yet but maybe it will take some time.

Face ID was accepted very quickly. All of my apps support Face ID, even my banking and credit card ones.

I does work well for website log ins. It’s effortless. However I feel A bit lazy using Touch ID for the same thing on my iPad.

Doesn’t huwawei have their own version of Face ID on the mate 20 pro?

I dunno how good it is but the reviews I’ve seen have said it’s their equivalent of Face ID.
 
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Back before the iPhone X came out, there were rumors suggesting Apple would do away with the Home button by implementing Touch ID under the display of the device, preserving the fingerprint sensor while allowing for an edge-to-edge display.

That didn't end up happening and Apple ultimately replaced Touch ID with Face ID, but since then, other companies have implemented in-display fingerprint recognition technology.


OnePlus recently unveiled its new OnePlus 6T, one of the first commercially available smartphones in the United States that's using in-screen fingerprint recognition technology. We were able to get our hands on one of the new smartphones to see if Apple is missing out on anything with its Face ID implementation.

There are instances where a fingerprint sensor offers benefits over facial recognition. Face ID, for example, doesn't work well when you're laying in bed and the phone is held in landscape or when an iPhone is flat on a desk. With a fingerprint sensor, those are non-issues.

Fingerprint sensors have their own problems, though, and as we discovered with the OnePlus 6T, in-display fingerprint technology isn't as great as it sounds. OnePlus' implementation is slow and inaccurate, a major negative compared to Face ID.

With the OnePlus 6T, you need to make sure to place your finger in the designated spot on the display for your fingerprint to be recognized, and sometimes you need to hold it there for what seems like a long time before it reads the fingerprint. Touch ID and Face ID both unlock almost instantly, so the wait with the OnePlus 6T makes a huge difference.

Had Apple pursued in-display fingerprint technology its implementation might have been better than what OnePlus came out with, and there's still a chance the tech OnePlus is using will improve with software updates or future iterations, but we'll never know if Apple would have done it better.

Apple is all in on Face ID, which is now in both modern iPhones and iPads, and the company has said that other solutions, like in-screen or rear-facing Touch ID, were never under consideration once it decided to pursue Face ID.

Apple's Face ID technology is still so advanced that no other company, OnePlus included, has managed to match it as of yet. And in-display technology still has a ways to go, it seems, with most major Apple competitors instead opting for rear-facing fingerprint sensors as a way to achieve edge-to-edge displays.

Do you miss Touch ID and wish Apple would have worked towards an in-display fingerprint sensor, or do you prefer Face ID? Let us know in the comments.

Article Link: Hands-On With the In-Screen Fingerprint Technology in the New OnePlus 6T
[doublepost=1541837813][/doublepost]It is obvious that many people would like to have both. Yet, it seems just as obvious that Apple does not care about it and will stick with just one of them per device.
There are common everyday cases when one of the methods do not work well.
The story will be the same as with headphone jack, as with MagSafe, as with Non-butterfly keyboards — the ship had sailed, unfortunately.
 
I miss Touch ID. I hate Face ID. I don’t live with my phone or iPad in front of my face all the time. Normally it’s on a desk. I live in Miami with a lot of sunshine. And Face ID seldom works outdoor. I end up using my code most of the times on my iPhone X. Face ID is the only reason I won’t buy the new iPad until my old one brakes completely. I even consider buying the iPhone 8 instead of the x that I have today due to Face ID.
 
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I miss Touch ID. To be honest, on those occasions when I do have to use my phone quickly while driving, Face ID has made me less safe. Typing in a six-digit passcode is very distracting when I'm wearing sunglasses that FaceID doesn't like.

So you miss Touch ID because you now can’t put lives of other people as easily as before?
 
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I love Face ID, but I will say that I found it hard to believe when Apple claimed that they were never even considering under-display fingerprint recognition initially. I remember there were so many rumors about it during the year preceding the iPhone X release and then Face ID just came from out of no where. I’m not disappointed with Face ID, but I agree with you in that I also don’t believe that it was Apple’s first idea for an unlocking solution to a device with an edge-to-edge display. However, you gotta admit there must have been some serious time and effort put into Face ID considering that it’s a technology that still a year later nobody seems to be even close to mimicking so far.
Huawei uses the same technology with dot projector, IR illuminator and all in their latest Mate 20 Pro. Was just released.

And, of course, fingerprint scanner under the screen too for those who want it.
 
I miss Touch ID. To be honest, on those occasions when I do have to use my phone quickly while driving, Face ID has made me less safe. Typing in a six-digit passcode is very distracting when I'm wearing sunglasses that FaceID doesn't like.

I wouldn’t blame Face ID for being less safe when you’re using your phone while driving.
 
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I came to the same conclusion.
My iPhone XS is difficult to activate out of bed. I have deactivated FaceID there and am using number code.
I think FaceID is technically fantastic, and I would be happy if it is complemented by in-screen fingerprint technology.

The 1Plus 6T is once again an example when marketing forces a market launch too early: this technology is cool, but not yet mature. Fortunately, Apple still doesn't make these kinds of mistakes.
 
Probably not yet but maybe it will take some time.

Face ID was accepted very quickly. All of my apps support Face ID, even my banking and credit card ones.

I does work well for website log ins. It’s effortless. However I feel A bit lazy using Touch ID for the same thing on my iPad.

Doesn’t huwawei have their own version of Face ID on the mate 20 pro?

I dunno how good it is but the reviews I’ve seen have said it’s their equivalent of Face ID.

Face Recognition doesn't work on any Android devices for Bank logins or any other logins like how it works on iPhone through Face ID. It's not secured.

That's why I was wondering even In-Screen Fingerprint on OnePlus 6T works for logins? or it's just for unlocking phone and apps which is total useless for me.
 
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Huawei uses the same technology with dot projector, IR illuminator and all in their latest Mate 20 Pro. Was just released.

And, of course, fingerprint scanner under the screen too for those who want it.

I don't think so. These are Apple's patents and Apples HighTech. Please source your incredible assertion!
 
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