It's just a very unprofessional comparison which confuses the reader. The Series 6 picture is way darker (see the background) making the overall comparison useless and confusing.
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Hands-On With the New Apple Watch Series 6 and Apple Watch SE
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only partially true. I think an Apple Watch 2 is a very perfect product already. You have all the benefits of the fitness features.
I updated from Apple Watch 0 to 5. and ECG App s was the reason for it mainly.
When you take pharmaceuticals that require QT interval prolongation monitoring , the Watch can help to assess whether or not your interval is prolonged or not.
Validating QT-Interval Measurement Using the Apple Watch ECG to Enable Remote Monitoring During the COVID-19 Pandemic
“I'm still on S2 and see no reason to upgrade.”
Cool.
“Initially I wanted for the ECG and O2 measurement but then when I researched it more those 2 are totally useless for me. I'm not in the risk category (60+) and overall its more marketing thing. Anyone interested with the topic, you can google doctors talking or measuring ECG and talking specifically how not useful it is at this point.”
Yeah, sure, you can google doctors saying it’s not helpful. You can also google doctors saying it is helpful. You can google doctors saying anything — they tend to have full vocabularies. I bet you can even google a doctor talking about how the ECG app was created by the deep state and thats why Epstein died, because he knew that there’s a kill switch, hidden in a underground bunker somewhere in Montana, and the government can use the ECG app to assassinate political enemies by causing their Apple Watch to deliver a high voltage surge that causes them to go into instant cardiac arrest.
The ECG app is aimed more towards afib — there have been numerous examples of an Apple Watch catching afib in a patient and potentially saving their lives. Those doctors should tell them how its only marketing, though, and not useful.
“Like ECG for example - Watch has only 1 measure point whereas any hospital has around 6-7 (or more).
No offense, but you’re quite misinformed about how the watch ECG works. For starters, the ECG isn’t one lead, it’s two. It forms a closed circuit between your finger on the crown and the the bottom of your wrist, so it gives a more accurate reading of your heart rate. I’ve been developing issues with tachycardia over the past few years, so I keep a log for my doctor, and we review it and make adjustments, from it as well as other data points. (or at least we did, before COVID shut down in-person VA appointments indefinitely).
Here’s an example: Last winter, I noticed my heart rate was spiking in the late afternoon, around the same time every day. I showed my doc the readings, she switched me to an extended release version of my blood pressure medicine, and it fixed the issue.
Yeah, it’s only two leads, but that’s two more leads than I had a year ago, and I like knowing that I’m in a nice sinus rhythm. Also, anytime I’m at the doctor — or, more specifically, when I was in the hospital for surgery this past March — I compared my watch ECG/heart rate to what they recording on their monitors, and there was virtually no difference.
“...Giving user false positive also creates issues not only for the person but also for the health care system so overall its not a reason to upgrade.”
*********. Show me the numbers. I want to see some real data, demonstrating how the Apple Watch having an ECG is creating a strain on the health care system. You made the assertion, back it up with some data. And what do you mean giving the user a “false positive”? A false positive what? Are you worried it’s going to say that you have a heart rate, when you really don’t, and that you’re actually dead?
“Those interested please research it as you will be amazed how much complex the issue truly is and not what Apple wants us to believe.”
You put your finger on the crown for 30 seconds while It measures your heart rhythm. Then it tells you what your average heart rate was, and if you were in a sinus rhythm. That‘s what it does. It’s pretty simple, and it doesn’t claim to do anything more complex.
I bet people said the same stuff when you became able to take your own temperature or take your own blood pressure. Hell, they probably said similar stuff when scales became affordable and you could weigh yourself.
I dunno, buddy. I guess don’t buy the watch if you don’t want to buy the watch. it’s your money, your choice. I bought it for a lot of reasons; the ones stated above, the fitness tracking, etc. But I mainly bought it because I‘m a nerd who likes gadgets and tech. It’s amazing what Apple has been able to cram into a freaking watch. Stop fighting the future and come ride the wave with us😎
***any typos or grammatical errors are the fault of my wiener dog, and not me.
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Cool.
“Initially I wanted for the ECG and O2 measurement but then when I researched it more those 2 are totally useless for me. I'm not in the risk category (60+) and overall its more marketing thing. Anyone interested with the topic, you can google doctors talking or measuring ECG and talking specifically how not useful it is at this point.”
Yeah, sure, you can google doctors saying it’s not helpful. You can also google doctors saying it is helpful. You can google doctors saying anything — they tend to have full vocabularies. I bet you can even google a doctor talking about how the ECG app was created by the deep state and thats why Epstein died, because he knew that there’s a kill switch, hidden in a underground bunker somewhere in Montana, and the government can use the ECG app to assassinate political enemies by causing their Apple Watch to deliver a high voltage surge that causes them to go into instant cardiac arrest.
The ECG app is aimed more towards afib — there have been numerous examples of an Apple Watch catching afib in a patient and potentially saving their lives. Those doctors should tell them how its only marketing, though, and not useful.
“Like ECG for example - Watch has only 1 measure point whereas any hospital has around 6-7 (or more).
No offense, but you’re quite misinformed about how the watch ECG works. For starters, the ECG isn’t one lead, it’s two. It forms a closed circuit between your finger on the crown and the the bottom of your wrist, so it gives a more accurate reading of your heart rate. I’ve been developing issues with tachycardia over the past few years, so I keep a log for my doctor, and we review it and make adjustments, from it as well as other data points. (or at least we did, before COVID shut down in-person VA appointments indefinitely).
Here’s an example: Last winter, I noticed my heart rate was spiking in the late afternoon, around the same time every day. I showed my doc the readings, she switched me to an extended release version of my blood pressure medicine, and it fixed the issue.
Yeah, it’s only two leads, but that’s two more leads than I had a year ago, and I like knowing that I’m in a nice sinus rhythm. Also, anytime I’m at the doctor — or, more specifically, when I was in the hospital for surgery this past March — I compared my watch ECG/heart rate to what they recording on their monitors, and there was virtually no difference.
“...Giving user false positive also creates issues not only for the person but also for the health care system so overall its not a reason to upgrade.”
*********. Show me the numbers. I want to see some real data, demonstrating how the Apple Watch having an ECG is creating a strain on the health care system. You made the assertion, back it up with some data. And what do you mean giving the user a “false positive”? A false positive what? Are you worried it’s going to say that you have a heart rate, when you really don’t, and that you’re actually dead?
“Those interested please research it as you will be amazed how much complex the issue truly is and not what Apple wants us to believe.”
You put your finger on the crown for 30 seconds while It measures your heart rhythm. Then it tells you what your average heart rate was, and if you were in a sinus rhythm. That‘s what it does. It’s pretty simple, and it doesn’t claim to do anything more complex.
I bet people said the same stuff when you became able to take your own temperature or take your own blood pressure. Hell, they probably said similar stuff when scales became affordable and you could weigh yourself.
I dunno, buddy. I guess don’t buy the watch if you don’t want to buy the watch. it’s your money, your choice. I bought it for a lot of reasons; the ones stated above, the fitness tracking, etc. But I mainly bought it because I‘m a nerd who likes gadgets and tech. It’s amazing what Apple has been able to cram into a freaking watch. Stop fighting the future and come ride the wave with us😎
***any typos or grammatical errors are the fault of my wiener dog, and not me.
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Moving from a Series 4 (sport) to Series 6 Hermès SS. The brighter always-on display, LTE and the faster processor are the main reasons I upgraded. Also tired of space gray aluminium models. With the always-on display, the Apple Watch can be more watch-like and therefore the watch face gains in importance in my view. I love the Hermès watch faces. The beautiful Hermès leather bands add to the classy watch-like appearance.
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Missed opportunity to show the AoS brightness next to each other. Also why does the S5 look brighter?! Horrible and confusing comparison
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Coming from a series 5 SS, I upgraded for the brighter screen, ability to use control center with the screen off, better heart rate monitor, ability to connect to 5Ghz, faster processor, and SPO2. I agree that I upgraded to get spec bumps. My retort is that if those spec bumps increase my enjoyment and use of the watch, then it was worth it for me and the size of the feature upgrades becomes immaterial. What works for me in upgrading this way may not be satisfactory to others.
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They say that a month after releasing a 27” desktop computer with SSD soldered onto the motherboard and the screen and computer being one device, so that once either your motherboard, storage or 5K screen dies, your entire product becomes useless.
Apple hypocrisy hard at work. It’s for Mr Cook’s profit margins.
I keep seeing these kind of posts about pulse oximetry in the new apple watch. If you are healthy and have normal physiology, you will have symptoms before your oxygen saturation shows below normal range. Please do not rely on machine to tell you when to seek medical help.
Source: I’m an anaesthesiologist
if you heart issue okay for ekg just easier for data mining but not 100% perfect. Even doc can confuse with it such as murmur. Oksigen level more on this era covid 19/wuhan virus but mostly for athelete only.
** not all country support ecg/ekg
** never assume as final healthcare product only for own ease and data minimg if possible.
You would think so, and everybody is different, but as a S3 owner I'm rather nonplussed about this release. I feel like next year will be a big release. Kind of like how 3 to 4 was big, I'm thinking 6 to 7 will be big. I'm on the wrong release cycle!
Yeah you’re probably right. The S3 is still a great watch. Most of my friends have S3 Cellular and love them.
I am kicking myself for not getting the Cellular. Having the flexibility to be in contact anywhere without my phone on me would be really nice.
Sure, you can sell yourself on that outlook but I would rather save my money and have something that I actually like and not settle for. It looks like something you get at a dollar store and not for over $400.
Ahh, you pretty much took the thoughts out of my head. I'm still rocking the S3 Cellular and I've been contemplating the releases ever since. S4, ECG, cool but not a deal-breaker. S5, always-on feature, great update but still holding back. S6, blood oxygen, kind of cool but not completely winning me over.
I guess you could always wait for "better", but not one update has completely bowled me over. So, it's a bit of an anti-climax to upgrade because of an "accumulation" of features. And even that accumulation isn't completely selling me.
I guess I'm waiting for an update so good that it's even tempting a good majority of latest-gen owners. And yes, every series you could think that the next one will be a "big one", but I'm with you, I think the S7 will be a bigger leap. Hopefully no-bezel fullscreen design. Perhaps microLED. Slightly thinner? Would be cool to have something like blood-pressure or blood-sugar biometrics, but not sure how feasible they are in the upcoming future.
Thank you but I'll pass and wait.
And FYI - False positive is when your watch detects AF but its not really AF.
Have a look at this video for example. There is tons more etc. but its up to you if you want to know more.
And FYI - False positive is when your watch detects AF but its not really AF.
Have a look at this video for example. There is tons more etc. but its up to you if you want to know more.
Physician here - what are you supposed to do with the blood oxygen monitor? Absolutely nothing (yet). It's a nice gimmick, but for most people this is a meaningless thing. If you climb or fly in unpressurized aircraft, this *could* be useful. Could because in mission critical situations if there's an issue you need to know the accuracy of the number and what to do with it. Most of us in healthcare know the limitations of the SpO2 and how to interpret it. Without that understanding I worry about people fixating on a number that's either inaccurate or meaningless. Furthermore, I have yet to see evidence of FDA 510K approval which is likely why they didn't make medical claims (e.g. it's for wellness & fitness).
I'm very interested to see this paired with the sleep features to see if home diagnosis of sleep apnea is possible. That would be a huge benefit if people actually wore their watches when they sleep (when would it charge? When I shower?)
Also could be useful in COPD/anyone on home oxygen.
We were worried about the EKG features but the data have shown plenty of patients benefiting from this and it seems like it's more accurate than previously thought.
I'm very interested to see this paired with the sleep features to see if home diagnosis of sleep apnea is possible. That would be a huge benefit if people actually wore their watches when they sleep (when would it charge? When I shower?)
Also could be useful in COPD/anyone on home oxygen.
We were worried about the EKG features but the data have shown plenty of patients benefiting from this and it seems like it's more accurate than previously thought.
"All in all, if you have a Series 5, there may be no need to upgrade unless you really want the blood oxygen monitoring capabilities and the faster S6 chip, and if you have an older watch and don't need ECG or blood oxygen monitoring, the SE may be the better choice for you."
You may want to upgrade but probably don't need to as there is a big difference.
The S5 is more than sufficient for most people. Nothing wrong with buying a portable oximeter for ~$20 but just not handy in carrying it everywhere but why would anyone?
Basically the SE version = S4 but with an upgraded chip.
If you have an older model <S5, then it may be worthwhile to upgrade.
If you're satisfied with your current model, that's OK!
You may want to upgrade but probably don't need to as there is a big difference.
The S5 is more than sufficient for most people. Nothing wrong with buying a portable oximeter for ~$20 but just not handy in carrying it everywhere but why would anyone?
Basically the SE version = S4 but with an upgraded chip.
If you have an older model <S5, then it may be worthwhile to upgrade.
If you're satisfied with your current model, that's OK!
The difference between the 4 series and 5 was incremental. Mostly the always on watch face. The difference between the 5 and 6 is even less. Apple is making it to where you only need to update once your watch fails or is damaged. I really don't feel a need to do this update but its nice if you need a watch.
anyone else having issues with upgrading/switching watches with a verizon cellular plan? Ive been on the phone with both Verizon and Apple for hours only to find out from apple that "its a known issue with the engineers that the new watches cant transfer over previous Apple Watch numbers and that they're working on a solution"....great
My impressions after a day: Still loving the blue color. It's muted but distinctive and stands out. After all the talk about brightness I was surprised at how dim the display is compare to my Series 4. To achieve the same amount of brightness my 4 showed at the lowest setting I've had to crank my 6 up to its highest setting. No idea what that is about but so far it hasn't had a negative effect on battery life. Response time is definitely improved when invoking Siri via voice, which I assume is due to the faster SoC. Initial setup was also faster than on my 4. Blood o2 app has worked all three times I've used it, and results are within +/-1% of the 60 dollar dedicated sensor I used after major surgery a few years ago.
One thing I've found I don't care for is the Always On display. As I suspected when it was announced on the 5 last year, I really don't care what my watch face is doing when I'm not looking at it. Furthermore I dislike visually the way it blurs things out when an app is running like the activity app or timer, as it takes longer to unblur when I lift my wrist than my Four took to light up the display. Turned that nonsense off this morning and look forward to further battery efficiency because of it.
All in all, even for just aesthetics alone I am happy with this upgrade, and look forward to future WatchOS improvements taking advantage of the improved SoC.
One thing I've found I don't care for is the Always On display. As I suspected when it was announced on the 5 last year, I really don't care what my watch face is doing when I'm not looking at it. Furthermore I dislike visually the way it blurs things out when an app is running like the activity app or timer, as it takes longer to unblur when I lift my wrist than my Four took to light up the display. Turned that nonsense off this morning and look forward to further battery efficiency because of it.
All in all, even for just aesthetics alone I am happy with this upgrade, and look forward to future WatchOS improvements taking advantage of the improved SoC.
dont care about grammar.But sometimes the ecg cannot detect figure also.. error error.Got some issue heart but minimal.Done ecg,echo also.
true. Even i had minimal heart issue but this data ecg just for any future anything bad happen.Mostly i can monitor heart beat when walking few times a week ( cannot jog out of breath easily). About sleep no idea and those good sleep bad sleeep rythim.
** once bought samsung band but lost nowhere because easily slip out.
