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Hands-On With the New iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro Max

More slippery than a X sounds scary. My X slides off of the arm of my couch without even touching it. It's scary slippery.

Is there not anything out there software wise that can do a bit for bit copy/transfer?
 
Mydel said:
I had 7plus that broke few weeks ago (I also have XS) and got 11 in Red. I have to say I like it and feel it was worthy upgrade. Also I take 11 over XS. The battery life on my XS is not all that good.
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I had a X and while I loved it overall, I was so frustrated with the battery life I wound up switching to a XR. The battery life is so much better on my XR I never think about it again. I also feel like the virtues of OLED are substantially overrated while the XR screen is a lot better than some people thought.

I know there are some XS owners saying the 11 Pro isn't much of an upgrade, but I think the battery life and camera improvements get to the heart of what a phone experience is in ways that say things like reverse charging or even OLED really don't.
 
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MentalFloss said:
All the images in the article show the iPhone from the back. In the TV ads, the iPhone is shown from the back. On the apple.com front page, the iPhone is shown from the back.

I am beginning to wonder if this is the first iPhone without a display.
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If it doesn’t have a display, who’s to say which side is the front and which side is the back?
 
Finally got to try out the low light and wide lens camera, and for me this is a great improvement over the XS. Glad I traded it in. Feels snappier too.
 
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I can not believe a Pro model starts out at only 64 gigs. Yet the 11 starts out at 128 gigs. Come on Apple! Ridiculous.
 
hagar said:
Very impressed with my 11 pro. Upgrading from an 6S it’s a completely new experience.

iOS 13 is great too. So many refinements and bug fixes. I had poor call quality with my 6S and lots of CarPlay reliability issues, but they all seem fixed with iOS 13.

Guess I didn’t need to upgrade after all. But at least now my midnight green phone matches my car 😂

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I am so envious, you can not imagine! 😯

edit: of the car. I’ve got the same phone.
 
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miniyou64 said:
So they removed features, continue to keep displays with PWM, iOS 13 is behind competitors in features and this has virtually the same design as phones from the past 2 years but this is supposed to be a “Pro” model? Wow.
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It's time to put the "Is this really a professional iPhone?" to rest. Apple said in their keynote, as most of us already knew, that "Pro" means it is for people who use the camera professionally OR for those who simply want the best in the technology they offer.

And more more thing. One of the most bizarre comments people make about the iPhone is complaining that "the design is the same." Bizarre because, other than the screen display, the design has never really changed from its inception. It's always been a flat rectangular slab, and newsflash, those of you waiting for a triangle or cube or some other never specified "design change" are going to be deeply disappointed for many years.
 
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miniyou64 said:
So I have to explain something to you within your constraints? Ok let’s say for arguments sake iOS 13 is on par with competitors. Which it’s not. The rest of what I said still stands.
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Well, I’m trying to convey that you can’t just ignore areas in which iOS and iPhone are clearly leaders.

Much of the iPhone hardware is objectively leading or among leaders. Name a better chip and GPU combo. Name a better camera system than the Pro Max. Are you arguing the Pro Max screen, cameras, and processor aren’t beating or among leaders, at minimum?

Name a more secure OS. Name an OS with more privacy and support. Name a phone with a longer usable life ( due to the silicon and consistent software updates) than any iPhone.

What features are you talking about that are ahead in competitors? I’m curious.
 
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Coconut Bean said:
I didn't write that post but let me give you my take on it.

Hardware:
Price point to price point Apple hardware is not up to par with competitors, apart from CPU. When it comes to screens its just frustrating to have any phone above $500 (or tbh above 200) launch with a screen worse than 1080p. Especially because the only reason for it is that Apple needs to differentiate the XR /11 from the XS/11 Pro.

The CPU is the best every year, likely do to vertical integration and very efficient low level code. Apple uses this to give themselves a loooooot of headroom as iOS13 will run just fine on 3 year old hardware just fine. Despite that many of the newest features won't make it to older generations (Deep Fusion, Portrait modes, using iPad as secondary display, Animojis) only to create differentiation.

An iPhone 8 could likely do Deep Fusion, Portrait modes and Animojis, but Apple doesn't bother enabling it, so the iPhone 8's amazing hardware won't be used. I know the reaction to this is going to be how it is hardware limited, but just look at what Google and Snapchat can do with much worse hardware..
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Value is completely subjective, which is a different argument.

So far, you’ve only mentioned the sub 1080P screen in the iPhone 11, but majority rules on this...everyone testing, using, and talking about the screen since the Xr say it’s a perfectly capable screen with accurate colors and no discernible pixels.

The rest of your post is speculation. Deep Fusion also might very well require new processing and neural engine hardware to work adequately in function and/or speed.

Apple never promised Deep Fusion on iPhone 8 hardware, so no one can be mad. Apple supports phone software in general for 5+ years, because the silicon enables old phones to work great. 90% of Android phones don’t even run the most current OS.
 
IG88 said:
Just did the setup, transfer via WiFi from 8+ to 11. I'm digging Face ID, it's ready before I have time to swipe up.
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Yes. This is my first go round with Face ID and so far I like it more than Touch ID.
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ghanwani said:
There was a line outside my local store. Not a very big one, but even at 10 min to close there were about 10-15 people still in line.

Store was crowded.

I managed to get a good look at the phones. Some observations, because I know everyone has been eagerly waiting to hear what I think.

- The matte finish on the back of the pro phones is very slippery.
- The sides on the 11 are slippery (not different from the XR).
- Midnight green is not my color, for sure. Space Gray looks best to me.
- The green 11 looks much better in person than the pictures, and would probably be my pick if I were to get one.
- The sides of the yellow 11 look a lot better than the XR.

In the end, if I had to buy a phone, I would get the 8. These new ones are all too heavy.
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I was worried about the weight but going from a 6s plus there is almost no difference in weight.
 
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gnomeisland said:
Deep fusion maybe, but portrait mode and Animoji's require (at least in Apple's implementation which seems better from what I've seen then Google's earlier software-only version) a depth camera which the 8 lacks. However the X & XS do have one.

I do agree that several of these features seem reserved solely for differentiation. Deep fusion, smart HDR, and Night Mode chief among them. Sure the A13 is faster but I'm skeptical a 20% increase (best case scenario) makes or breaks software/ML features like these. It should just mean the result is spit out faster. Hence Google's night vision mode made it to a number of older phones. It worked best of their top phones but it was still an option for the others.

While this isn't the first time they've done something like this, Apple is usually better at supporting older hardware. I think it speaks to how weak this year's upgrades are. I'm not say the iPhone 11 is a bad phone, just not as big of a jump as some past years.
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You folks and your conspiracy theories. LOL. Night mode is not something that can be on older phones because it is a combination of software AND new hardware.

"It starts with the new sensor in the iPhone 11’s default camera—what Apple calls the “wide” camera. On the iPhone 11, this 12-megapixel sensor comes with “100% focus pixels”—sub-pixel portions of the sensor that are used to detect data about the light in the scene rather than capture an image. The focus pixels help provide data that’s vital in analyzing the small amounts of light coming in to the camera."

 
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Frank Jones said:
This was the WORST iPhone transition EVER, and I've had quite a few. Nothing I could do would cause the iPhone to activate. Looked online, which was of no help. None. And none of the top search hits came from Apple. Verizon's list wasn't even close to what I was prompted to do with the new phone. I finally just took out the SIM card from the old phone, put it in the new one, and it started working. I did a restore from a very new back up, but, as everyone knows, app's aren't restored... they all have to be downloaded.. WTF? What. A. Waste. Then a lot of the songs on my old iPhone were not copied to the new one, and it seemed songs purchased on iTunes were the worst offenders. I OWN these songs, and kept getting a message like "this song not authorized in this region" or some crap. Finally decided to re-sync the phone, and download all the songs to the new phone. Forget "It Just Works". NOTHING just works anymore. Why on earth would Apple think that "Restoring" and "Syncing" should be 2 different processes? When I think of RESTORE, I think of a complete and total replication of what was there before, not shells of apps, and songs that don't play. This is bad Apple, really, really bad.
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Hard to believe you have had quite a few transitions since most of your complaints would have already been known.
 
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Mydel said:
I had 7plus that broke few weeks ago (I also have XS) and got 11 in Red. I have to say I like it and feel it was worthy upgrade. Also I take 11 over XS. The battery life on my XS is not all that good.
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My biggest complaint about the 11 red is I don’t want to put a case on it but my brain makes me do it anyways.
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gixxerfool said:
I hope after all the years of whining on these forums about Apple not making a thicker and/or heavier phone for the benefit of more battery life, people don’t start whining about the phone being too thick or heavy. It can’t be both ways.
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Much too late. Same with AOD on watch 5. As soon as something claymores for is done the opposites come out.

apple is right in prioritizing battery life and screen size. Those are two of the biggest priorities for the majority of their customers.
 
Baymowe335 said:
Well, I’m trying to convey that you can’t just ignore areas in which iOS and iPhone are clearly leaders.

Much of the iPhone hardware is objectively leading or among leaders. Name a better chip and GPU combo. Name a better camera system than the Pro Max. Are you arguing the Pro Max screen, cameras, and processor aren’t beating or among leaders, at minimum?

Name a more secure OS. Name an OS with more privacy and support. Name a phone with a longer usable life ( due to the silicon and consistent software updates) than any iPhone.

What features are you talking about that are ahead in competitors? I’m curious.
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You've left out the maybe the most important thing--the Apple ecosystem. Privacy, interoperability, ease of use, unparalleled support, and in the end, the best value. Compare support for that Android phone you bought this year when it has a problem, with Apple's support system (hint: there is no comparison). Compare the resale value you get for your iPhone with your Android phone (Hint: there is no comparison).
 
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kegan forbes said:
so far after the roughly first 24 hours with one not really. the phone itself is nice but the lack of 3d touch has been annoying and this is the first time since i stated using iPhones back with the 3gs that it feel rushed. the os is buggy and has issues that feel like its the beta from back at the bingeing of july and a lot of the thing i thought were fixed in the beta period seem to not be fixed in the version on the phone out of the box. i don't remember ever getting a new iPhone on launch day and things seeming this bad on the software side. I'm tempted to return mine for the first time ever in iPhone ownership. just another thing to add to the list that shows steve isn't around anymore.
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Agreed. I was testing the video capabilities on the iPhone 11 pro. After finished recording, the camera app had an icon that kept spinning and spinning and wouldn’t stop. And felt sluggish and lagging trying to even a view what I just captured. Definitely feels rushed. Hoping it is just the iOS 13.0 issue. This happened at the Apple Retail Store when I was trying it out.
 
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