Well, 99.9% of the population don't use or care about DSLR.
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Hands-On With the New iPhone 12 Pro
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Apple ships about 200 million phones per year. In a 10 year period that will be 2 billion phones.
There is no way that iPhone customers will buy 2 billion USB-C chargers to charge their phones over the next decade.
I have never used the charger or the EarPods that came with any of the iPhones I bought. So even if 50 million people buy a charger because no one was in the box, that will still reduce Apple's carbon footprint which is their main purpose. If they can even make more money doing that, I don't think they mind.
The Intel modem in the 11Pro is solid! It has nothing to do with the crap they had in the X and the XS. Those are all different Intel modems.
The stinks. Are they going to expedite a phone to you, or did they tell you back of the line?
Holy Smokes! Wasn't aware of the feature. That's pretty slick. Thanks!
It’s not bad. You’re right there’s quite an improvement for the 11Pro. But I own two Android phones, including the S20 from Samsung and even now there’s a difference. Do you live in a rural area where the service is spotty on AT&T? This sort of condition is where the difference is more apparent.
Mine showed up while I was out to dinner last night.
Activation was a snap with VZW. I backed my Xr up to my Mac and had no issues.
the PITA was transferring the watch. It seemed to take forever for it to re pair and restore to the new phone. Everything required a re boot afterward which is to be expected.
I’m surprised at how much 5G coverage is in my area. Not the MM wave business I’m guessing, but I’m getting 24 Mbps download at my house with 5G.
The new form factor is nice and this phone is blazing fast. I really like it.
may wife with her 11 is envious so that’s a plus! Lol...
Activation was a snap with VZW. I backed my Xr up to my Mac and had no issues.
the PITA was transferring the watch. It seemed to take forever for it to re pair and restore to the new phone. Everything required a re boot afterward which is to be expected.
I’m surprised at how much 5G coverage is in my area. Not the MM wave business I’m guessing, but I’m getting 24 Mbps download at my house with 5G.
The new form factor is nice and this phone is blazing fast. I really like it.
may wife with her 11 is envious so that’s a plus! Lol...
Less for phone box but then add the additional packaging for the USB-C power cube and packaging for different headphones or a Lighting to earphone plug in and probably have more packaging. Since iPhones only came with USB-C power cubes last year most people probably don't have them or enough so in the end the world probably won't save any packaging, etc.
Same boat here, that’s the reason I didn’t get the 12 Pro, am waiting on November 6th to preorder 12 Pro Max, I already got the regular 12 for testing software , 12 PM will be daily driver.
I upgraded from an iPhone X. For me, the camera improvements alone are very much worth it. I can get usable shots without flash in much darker conditions than I could before, and focusing is faster. Otherwise, the phone feels a bit faster. I haven't compared cellular data speed yet. The phone is a bit larger than the X. I think the Pro Max would have been too big.
I had a 11 pro max also, and now the 12 pro.
I’ m very happy with its size, this is a real joy to use a phone so light, and with one hand.
And the camera is super good so no regret here.
I’m on T-Mobile in NYC. So we wouldn’t be able to compare fairly. You also have to keep in mind that the antenna design plays a big part in this equation too. The Android phones you’ve mentioned might have stronger signals due to their antennas as well.
And 99.99% are not going to spend $9,999 in camera gear to
Wrong and condescending.
12 Pro looks more realistic to me.
Seems like the 11 Pro is changing the skin color too much during its processing.
Too much Hue/Sat.
It's no more wrong or condescending than what I quoted. The point is nobody knows what "people" in general care about, and are usually wrong when they try to guesstimate the masses.
Appreciate your analysis, but no one has commented on the potential benefit of the new modem (qualcomm vs intel for the iphone 11). I recall some comparisons in the past showing the qualcomm modems were better especially in low signal areas. That would be important for me because I'm in an area with a lot of hills with weak signals. (So Cal)
Are you really that naïve to think there are not other wasteful and inefficiencies etc etc created by this
No one is denying there is a saving in one area they just do not tell you all the new ones added
You have to look past the obvious and see the real intent and encouragement of sales in other areas this promotes other than buying the same or equivalent chargers your simple math's shows
It's not about who sells or buys chargers it's what alternatives and direction Apple is pushing not least of all wireless charging and a whole host of other goodies with and without batteries etc
The simple reduction in one area will just subsidize another that is likely to be worse
This is just robbing Peter to pay Paul carbon footprint
You’re preaching to the choir. I basically said the 12 pro is on Apple if people here are finding it disappointing. Imagine what the less tech inclined masses think.
Well not totally. They aren’t taken at the same distance. You can tel how close the the girl is in the 11 Pro shot. Not really a totally fair comparison. I know the 12 Pro camera is better, but seems incredibly marginally better. The Max is a different story.
Yeah I do like the 6.1” size. When I went from my XR to my 11 Pro, I immediately missed the 6.1” size, so I’m looking forward to the upgrade next year.
Verizon had delivery dates for most product within the first two weeks for most of the first day, and for some products into the weekend. It seemed like most people thought going through Apple was a better idea for some reason. I can't imagine why... if there's a way to screw it up, Apple will find it.
Did you do a carrier order or did you order through Apple?