I really wonder who buys this stuff for $1,2K and with 128 gigs hard drive? You can't really do much with this tiny storage.
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Hands-On With the New July 2019 13-Inch MacBook Pro
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Have anyone here who is complaining about the keyboards actually tried the 2019-ones? They are a lot softer to type on than the 2018 version. I have had both the 2018 and 2019 Macbook Pros, and the difference is massive.
The touch bar, on another note though.....
The touch bar, on another note though.....
Same experience for me. I have a 2016 nTB MBP that has seen almost daily use with lots of writing and I have no issues so far. My wife has a 2016 MacBook and hers is fine as well. Both machines are almost three years old.
There definitely is an issue otherwise Apple would not have the keyboard repair program. But I think there are a lot of people who don’t actually own a newer model MBP complaining. It seems for every person with a real problem with the keyboard there are five people without a butterfly keyboard MBP loudly complaining on the Internet.
Precisely. It’s really more of a bait-and-switch sales ploy than anything else. I wouldn’t go with less than 128GB in an iPhone with the dumb upgraded 200GB iCloud photo service.
I shoot video onto 256GB SD cards—and that’s not uncommon. Also, the prices for SSDs have come down so far that the component cost that Apple pays is tiny now, especially on a $1,300 machine.
Unless you blowing over a grand on something just to surf the web with, 128GB doesn’t make sense at all. And looking forward it’s only going to become worse and worse. Like my iPad Mini Retina that I f’d up on and got with 16GB. It could barely hold the OS near the end.
Serious question:
I know many more apps utilize mutli-cores than previously and in more ways. But what I don't is how many mainstream programs like browsers (Chrome, FireFox, Safari) are fully programmed to take advantage of everything that can be thrown at them.
I assume PhotoShop is optimized but don't know. And I expect programs like Word likely aren't much, because they don't need to be...??
Thanks in advance for any answers....
I know many more apps utilize mutli-cores than previously and in more ways. But what I don't is how many mainstream programs like browsers (Chrome, FireFox, Safari) are fully programmed to take advantage of everything that can be thrown at them.
I assume PhotoShop is optimized but don't know. And I expect programs like Word likely aren't much, because they don't need to be...??
Thanks in advance for any answers....
Why? What's wrong with "hands-on"? It's short and concise, everyone knows what it means.
Kind of an odd thing to take issue with...
Firefox, and Chrome yes. I can’t say for sure about Safari.
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Young people. People who keep their data in the cloud. Whatever little they need that is. Since they live a subscription model life. They don’t own music or movies or games or software. What little they do keep locally are docs so they don’t take up much space.
I remember when Jobs said “you don’t need disc”. I said you crazy Steve! It was like a Jedi mind trick. These are not the disc you’re looking for.
Now when I come across boxes of disc in my garage I think “damn he was right”.
It might be longer than you’d keep one, but what do you think the resale value is going to be in Y3?
I could be wrong, but I would expect it to plummet significantly. No way I would buy one knowing how expensive an upcoming repair is going to be.
A decent keyboard would be a win.
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External storage.
I actually came to the comment section to ask this same question. The “review” said these 1.4 ghz are faster the the previous models 2.3 ghz because they are quad core and last years were dual core. That’s not true. The 2017 2.3 was dual core but the 2018 refresh were quad core 2.3.
They did not provide any numbers so just “faster” is not helpful. We need to see some benchmarks at least.
Tbh I was on the edge of upgrading, but 128GB SSD on a 1300$ laptop is disrespectful, and 400$ just for extra 8GB of ram and 256GB of storage, XPS13 charges $50 for extra 8GB ram and comes with 256GB.
Maybe for you but many people keep their laptop for more than four years.
The issue is that Apple laptops are cost prohibitive to repair after the warranty runs out.
If Apple didn't have to replace half the laptop at great expense to repair the keyboard, it would not be an issue for me.
Earlier this year there were reports that Apple has been trying to ensure that these 'keyboard repairs' have a short turnaround time (I think their goal was something like 24 h).
Yes, the only benefits I see from the 2.4 model is better speakers and more ports. The performance increase of 5-8% I can do without and the slightly faster SSDs will probably not be noticed much on the 512GB version. For value, the base model wins over the 2.4 one. Oh and sure it has 2 fans but the 1.4 runs cooler and doesn't throttle, so I'd prefer the quieter 1.4 model.
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From what I understand (from youtube test videos) the 2.8 model is only 5-8% faster than the new 1.4 (5% in CPU and 8% in graphics). The biggest benefit of the 2.8 model is much better speakers and 4 thunderbolt ports. The SSD would also be slightly faster but I don't think anyone would notice at those speeds.
Pretty happy with my '1.4Ghz' base model, except for the fact that I had to upgrade the storage to 256GB. 128GB is beyond a joke.
The last Mac I owned was a refurbished 2014 15' rMBP with 16GB RAM and Nvidia 750M graphics.
The last Mac I owned was a refurbished 2014 15' rMBP with 16GB RAM and Nvidia 750M graphics.
I'm so tempted to get one, or a Mac mini, because I really want something with MacOS for movie editing and stuff. The thing is, my iPad Pro 12.9" is so powerful and even better with iPad OS 13. It's just that I can't see doing things like video editing with it.
Hahahaha! Kids complaining about Apple's keyboards. You don't know how good you have it. I did my Master's thesis on a "keyboard" like this. Heck, even Steve Jobs had to use this stuff in school...
Many pros use fileservers/NAS/SAN, or simply external storage connected via USB/Thunderbolt 3. Of course it depends on the specific usage and workflow, but not everyone needs a ton of internal storage. When Apple was still reporting units, average selling price across all Macs sold was around $1,400, so you can imagine the huge number of sales of the entry level models.
Ah, the official uniform of all college Freshman. Mackbook, watch, phone and earphones... Nice.
?Think different?
I wonder if and when the straight non-ergonomic keyboard design is going to join the Dodo bird. I'm honestly surprised that this keyboard design has stuck around this long. Apple, are you afraid that people won't accept a keyboard that's actually better for them, simply because it's different? Ask Microsoft about their successful ergo keyboards.
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Yah that, and the lack of additional ports on a "Pro" laptop. They could have at least added one more USB-C port on the right side, no?
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Yah that, and the lack of additional ports on a "Pro" laptop. They could have at least added one more USB-C port on the right side, no?
Are those in their 20s, 30s, 40s or 50+ much different? Is there a better choice if one wants a computer, watch, phone and earphones?
True, the Watch and Airpods are smash hits and command decent market share (iPad as well), but PCs and Android both have marketshare in the 90% range So anyone buying Mac/iPhone is certainly “thinking different”. Watch and AirPods are a no-brainer at that point.
So tired of hearing the same crap about the keyboard, much of it is FUD based on to original 2016 issues. I'm on my third Mac with the butterfly keyboards and not only have had zero issues, but have grown to like it quite a bit, actually better than the keyboard on my iMP. I actually like it better at this point than my X1C.