Hands-On With the New tvOS 13 Update for Fourth and Fifth-Generation Apple TV

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  1. jlc1978 macrumors 68020

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    PIP would be nice if you could stream two separate video streams at once. That would be great for watching one game while keeping up,with another instead of using 2 TVs if yours doesn't support PIP.
     
  2. JRobinsonJr macrumors 6502a

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    I can't speak for the OP, but I think you misunderstood. I would love to see the computers app go away... but that doesn't mean I don't want to stream locally. The issue is IMO that there doesn't need to be an artificial and ultimately confusing segregation between content based on the SOURCE rather than the type. If I've got movies on my Mac, they should just show up in the list of movies. Why make us go to one app for Internet-based streaming content and a different app for Locally-hosted content?
     
  3. tallscot macrumors regular

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    It’s garbage because the remote is trash. Your PIP demo illustrated that quite nicely. Seriously. It’s a joke.
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    How about a remote with multiple buttons dedicated to features? Whah?!!
     
  4. Carlanga macrumors 604

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    Making us use the tv app to see watch now it’s a ridiculous step back on comfort of use just so people will use the tv app.
     
  5. Moonjumper macrumors 68000

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    I wish there was an option to select which screensavers you wanted. There are some amazing ones, but I almost always get the boring ones.

    Totally agree about the autoplay videos being a bad idea.
     
  6. TrenttonY macrumors 6502a

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    Yes I know. Im saying all your iTunes Home Sharing content should be put into the TV and Music app, respectively. Instead of how it is now, the Computers.app.

    It done correctly on iOS.
     
  7. DotCom2 macrumors 601

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    I just want to know if two people can connect their AirPods and listen to a movie at the same time?
     
  8. coolfactor macrumors 601

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    The tvOS interface design doesn't quite work for me. Feels "off". I think it's the extensive translucency, shadows, soft edges and bouncy effects.
     
  9. jinnj macrumors regular

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    Or unlock with your iPhone
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    Or support DLNA which many cheap nas already support.
     
  10. coolfactor macrumors 601

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    That's the risk, so no sympathy from this peanut gallery.
     
  11. ipedro macrumors 601

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    I'm sorry, that'd be terrible. Do you enjoy typing with the AppleTV remote? o_O

    I think that the solution is voice ID. The next Siri remote needs to have higher fidelity microphones to be able to identify who's asking. An alternative is Touch ID built into the remote but that starts to get very expensive for a remote that's already $75.
     
  12. sandler77 macrumors newbie

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    Any updates to the 4k movie count in the Library icon? All other genre/lists counts are there except the 4k/HDR purchases. Really bad missing info for users since tvOS 12...
     
  13. ipedro macrumors 601

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    The problem with Netflix is that it autoplays trailers with sound. The AppleTV header plays silently. I think that it's great. It creates a more dynamic UI. Besides, it can be turned off if you really hate it.
     
  14. Westside guy macrumors 603

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    Got a new ATV 4K about a month ago. I like that I can install apps (like Plex), but overall I definitely prefer the pre-tvOS interface.

    I’ve also put away the Siri remote and gone back to the silver one which came with my old ATV 3. That swipe remote is such a step backwards.

    The TV app is ludicrously redundant. “Yo, dawg...”
     
  15. adnbek macrumors 65816

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    Binge mode? Will it auto-play the next episode in a tv series after finishing the one?
     
  16. Jim Lahey macrumors 6502

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    This is probably more of an iOS thing rather than tvOS, but I’d like the option to validate my ATV purchases with a confirmation pop up on an already worn and unlocked Apple Watch rather than having to scramble for my iPhone and type my [long] Apple ID password using the onscreen keyboard notification. Buy on tvOS, confirm on wrist. That would be great.

    Regarding tvOS specifically, I’d also like to see more UI consistency across the system. Currently, play controls and viewable information are completely different depending on whether you’re viewing through the TV app, the TV Shows or Movies apps, and third party apps such as Netflix and Prime. Very irritating to have to remember which app you used to launch the movie/show before interacting with the remote while you’re watching it. Also, the ‘played’ tick is only seen for TV show episode lists when viewing in the TV app, not when viewed in the library.

    All-in-all, although I really like my Apple TV 4K, some of the UI inconsistencies and conflicting design decisions are nonsensical to the point I’m sometimes left wondering who on Earth decided it was ok to add unnecessary friction in the user experience. Very un-Apple.
     
  17. Sym0 macrumors 6502

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    Can anyone confirm is this update fixes the colour banding issue when Frame Rate and Range match are on for HDR sources.

    Currently when the frame rate is 24FPS and the ATV matches the refresh rate to 24Hz it changes either the chroma or colour depth to cause banding.

    This doesn't occur if you leave the system refresh at 60Hz and let the ATV and projector/TV pulldown the frames (5:5 120hz for me, or 3:2 for most 60Hz TVs)

    Also, if you see the banding by matching the frame rate, it never goes away even if making the 60Hz system settign active and disabling the frame match it still bands.

    Only when you reset the video settings and manually set 4k 60Hz Range match on, and Frame Rate off does it return to normal and work correctly again.
     
  18. Seoras macrumors 6502

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    I'm hoping that the multi user profile will allow my wife to view her photos on the ATV as it is only my account is linked to it.
    Our kids LOVE the Memories feature of the iOS Photos App. I think it is one of the best things Apple has ever done in software. Finally a way to summarise and enjoy the vast amount of media you gather on your family.
     
  19. strayts macrumors member

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    MULTIPLE USERS?! I really hope they bring this to a future version of iPadOS.
     
  20. purpleparrotuk macrumors 6502a

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    Totally agree
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    Siti remote is not that bad, touch can give you more control when you are used to. it is also more useful than the older one for many things especially for basic gaming. Anyway using a controller is much more better for 99% of titles
     
  22. choocn macrumors newbie

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    Anyone tried using a PS4 controller, both to play games, and to navigate?
     
  23. fokmik macrumors 68040

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    It can be disabled in settings/interface
     
  24. zapmymac macrumors member

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    I lost HomeKit.

    I had to switch HOME over to my iPad. I think it is because I have my iTunes set to one email and my iCloud/HomeKit set to another email.

    So far it doesn’t feel slower or glitches any worse for wear. Quite excited to see how this turns out.

    Too scared to test it on my iPad or iPhone
     
  25. Marshall73 macrumors 68000

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