Hands-On With the New tvOS 13 Update for Fourth and Fifth-Generation Apple TV

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  1. zapmymac macrumors member


    Aug 24, 2016
    That would be nice, I doubt Apple will ever give it to us; they want us to go to iTunes...All my loca stuff is now on an external plugged into my AE and I use Infuse. Used Plex for a while, but Infuse does it all for me. + iTunes Match for music.
  2. ArmouredBear macrumors newbie

    Jul 28, 2012
    Exactly, I actually watch Netflix less now because of that crap annoying me so much.
  3. iDento macrumors 6502


    Sep 8, 2011
    iCloud Servers
    Even better.

    Although, a 4 digits passcode is still better than nothing.
  4. femike macrumors 6502

    Oct 15, 2011
    It's good to see they spending effort in tvOS but still a long way to go.
    User profiles and controllers are good, just took them 4 years.
    Amongst others things, I would like an option to manually download/install updates, currently its off or auto.
    And the remote needs to redone.
  5. RomanEmpire macrumors member

    May 29, 2018
    Totally agreed: I think the new posters are terrible.
  6. NightFox macrumors 68020


    May 10, 2005
    Shropshire, UK
    Is Home Sharing even a thing any more under Catalina? I can't find any setting to enable it on the new TV app (on Catalina) and when I try connecting with the Computers app on ATV it can't find my library.
  7. adrianlondon macrumors 65816


    Nov 28, 2013
    System Prefs / Sharing
  8. theOmega macrumors member

    Oct 26, 2018
    Oh gosh yes, the TV App is such a mess, it feels like they are rushing through the iTunes catalogue to create the landscape artwork and it's so scrappy, maybe my TV isn't big enough but I can't read many of those tiles, it really pales comparing it with Netflix, which have many issues with their movie artwork, but at least they are legible.

    The scrappiness goes on the rest of the UI, movie logos aren't visible on the full screen artwork or trailers, and at the least on my Apple TV HD it's so slow, it feels like I'm using a beta, really not impressed with this one.

    I don't often look at iTunes, but the Apple TV App now makes it look so fresh and refined.
  9. NightFox macrumors 68020


    May 10, 2005
    Shropshire, UK
    Wow, I'd never have found that - thanks!
  10. LiveM macrumors 65816


    Oct 30, 2015
    I restarted and then the update appeared.
  11. sinsin07 macrumors 68040

    Mar 28, 2009
    Not clear what you mean.
    Do you mean to update the ATV OS itself?
    Under Settings / System / Software updates there are 3 options:
    Update Software
    Automatically Update
    Get Beta Updates
  12. LiveM macrumors 65816


    Oct 30, 2015
    Not in this country, thank goodness.
  13. LiveM macrumors 65816


    Oct 30, 2015
    Probably the most-requested feature ever, and a shameless money grab in not allowing it.
  14. TrenttonY macrumors 6502a

    Nov 14, 2012
    Yes it is. It is somewhere in the “Sharing” section of macOS System Preferences.app. I’m not running the beta, but this what I’ve read.
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    Yes you are exactly right. The new design template makes it hard to even read what it is, and most of the new horizontal artwork doesn’t even have the name of the program on it! I wonder if Apple is using some sort of AI to automatically make the new posters.
  15. qtrim macrumors 6502


    Oct 7, 2011
    If there’s no way to turn this off, I will not be updating to this version
  16. hardax macrumors regular

    Jan 16, 2008
    New Hampshire
    Im not using an AppleTV in my setup at the moment but if this there is no ability to disable this I wont ever be using an AppleTV.

    Horrifically annoying feature.
  17. theOmega macrumors member

    Oct 26, 2018
    I don't think they are, because some the new bad artwork have the Apple TV parallax effect, so I would assume someone actually devoted some time to make them..
  18. catracho504 macrumors newbie

    Nov 12, 2018
    Do you think we will have new Apple TV hardware this year?
  19. gk4 macrumors newbie

    Mar 6, 2010
    Does multi user allow for each device to have their own view in the Home app? It always annoyed me that it didn't because it makes the favorites useless since almost every light in my house is in the favorites. For example, there's no reason i need to have my son's bedroom lights in my favorite devices, but If I don't put them there then he wont have them either and there's obviously a reason for him to have them in his favorite devices.

    At the end of the day every light in my house is in my favorite devices because that's the only way I can get it to show in control center for the people who that light is relevant to.
  20. ThunderSkunk, Jun 27, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2019

    ThunderSkunk macrumors 68030


    Dec 31, 2007
    Milwaukee Area
    Yep, let’s make a simple, clean UI into a slow, clunky, noisy, unnecessary mess.

    Updates set to manual (never).
  21. stickyd8 macrumors member


    May 26, 2009
    I just want to know when AppleTV is going to have the option to skip shows/movies intros like Netflix. Also, an auto-play for the next TV episode you're watching would be nice!
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    There also needs to be a feature to allow users to passcode protect certain apps like Photos. I like to have access to my photos on my AppleTV, but I also don't want my kids to be able to open up my photos when they are watching the AppleTV.
  22. scrapesleon macrumors 6502a


    Mar 30, 2017
    Fifth generation there isn’t such thing ever happening this year
  23. Fofer macrumors 6502a

    Oct 24, 2002
    The AppleTV 4K *is* the fifth generation AppleTV.
  24. Scooby_Snacks macrumors newbie


    Nov 22, 2018
    Looks like a solid update. I'm looking forward to it.
  25. iReality85 macrumors 6502a

    Apr 29, 2008
    Upstate NY
    Likewise. However, I suspect we won't be seeing a hardware refresh for ATV 4K until Apple decides to include HDMI 2.1. If not later this year, then I think sometime in 2020 is likely.

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