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I don't get why all these phones are copying Apple with the notch. I wouldn't have a phone with an ugly notch and from the way sales have been disappointing for the iPhone X it seems a lot of folks agree.

So much inaccuracy and deceptive misinterpretation, we truly live in the Trump era. First of all, you don't know what the iPhone X sales are. Second, you don't know what motivates people to buy an iPhone X or keeps them from buying one. I'd speculate if someone doesn't buy an iPhone X then it's because of the price, certainly not because of the notch.

I, for one, find a screen with a notch looks a lot better than having a whole bar going across the top, which still looks like yesteryear's phones that didn't have edge-to-edge screens.
 
Notch. While it's a good spec device, did they really have to? Bah.

The price isn't bad. Looks like it's got t-mobile band 71 included.

Plenty of RAM. Decent storage.

I might get one later in the year after it's been out a while.
 
One reason for me not to buy 95% of the android phones is the horrible security update regime almost all producers have. 2 years after model introduction (so if you buy a year old model it's just one year left) and the best of them stop supporting. Lots of them never give out any update.
Plus if there is an update it might take easily 6 months before it reaches your phone.

Android itself is designed as an advertising platform, and is thus built from the ground up to be insecure in the first place, as far as leaking your personal details, browsing history, location, etc. to anyone that wants it.

100% of the reason I choose not to use Android (any more) is the horrible security, period.
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For a 529$ starting price i think it's quite good. 1000$ phone shouldn't become the normal trend. Good to see such competition.

It used to be that Android phones were cheap, almost free, but the exchange is that you agree that they track your browsing history, apps you install, location, etc., you give up some privacy for a cheap phone.

Now that Android phones are $500+, and they still leak your personal info to any advertiser that wants it, I'm wondering what the appeal is.
 
Android itself is designed as an advertising platform, and is thus built from the ground up to be insecure in the first place, as far as leaking your personal details, browsing history, location, etc. to anyone that wants it.

100% of the reason I choose not to use Android (any more) is the horrible security, period.
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It used to be that Android phones were cheap, almost free, but the exchange is that you agree that they track your browsing history, apps you install, location, etc., you give up some privacy for a cheap phone.

Now that Android phones are $500+, and they still leak your personal info to any advertiser that wants it, I'm wondering what the appeal is.
On a device like this? ROMs.

On non rootable? That's just more a platform choice or feature set is desired like a Quad Dac for example.
 
For the price, you cannot find a better value in terms of price vs performance. If I wasn't happy with Apple, I would probably get this phone.
 
It's a very nice device for the price point if you don't need wireless charging, waterproofing and a super good camera I imagine most android users would be happy with this. With the way, pricing is you could buy this one and the next version for almost the same as some high-end flagships. So a new mid-range phone every year instead of a flagship every 2, though a lot of people get a flagship every year anyway.
 
On a device like this? ROMs.

On non rootable? That's just more a platform choice or feature set is desired like a Quad Dac for example.

$500 for a hobbyist device to put a custom ROM on seems steep to me, but perhaps not to others. Then there's the question of who provides the ROM, where it came from, and do you trust that thing to not be worse than what Samsung et al exposes you to.

My 25 year-old self was jazzed about booting my PS2 into Linux, the 45 year-old me, not so much. (cue jokes about my lawn!)
 
It’s been apparent a lot of manufacturers have copied Apple designs, but having them copy a terrible design is next level.

If you think the notch is a nice design, you’re in denial. If an android maker implemented it first I can only imagine the amount of flaming that would exist on here.

I like it. Bothers me Zero!
 
I hate the notch. It's 100% a branding exercise. At least some OEMs are allowing useres to black out the right and left "ear." "Added screen!" Really? You mean the time and signal strength? The amount of justification people use for this "notch trend" is hilarious. Can someone point me to a thread *before* the iPhone X was released where anyone wanted a notch? Anyone at all? Remember when the Moto 360 came out with the "flat tire" and everyone roasted it? Pot-kettle much? It comes down to people spending over $1k on a phone will obviously defend their purchase. This bezel less craze is putting form over function and the UI/UX suffers from it. Go into landscape mode in the iOS default mail app....that incongruent pile of crap is what notches cause.
 
I don't get why all these phones are copying Apple with the notch. I wouldn't have a phone with an ugly notch and from the way sales have been disappointing for the iPhone X it seems a lot of folks agree.

Maybe it's to snag those people who want the X phone look without the X phone price.

Like how people buy knock-off Gucci bags and fake Rolex's.
 
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Hilarious to think all the Android fanboys I used to know would fawn over the OnePlus phones and mock Apple. And there was certainly much mirth over the iPhone X's notch. Well I bet they aren't laughing now.
 
Hilarious to think all the Android fanboys I used to know would fawn over the OnePlus phones and mock Apple. And there was certainly much mirth over the iPhone X's notch. Well I bet they aren't laughing now.
We aren't. I'm not anti Apple but I've had more problems with them than any other. My luck I guess. That notch, a lot of us are like...

F¬¬k.
 
RE: "Comparatively, Apple's latest iPhone X offers just 3GB RAM, but Apple devices tend to use hardware more efficiently due to the tight integration between hardware and software. "

Still, when Tim Cook's AAPL decided to remove the Hardware Home Button, they should have put 4 GB of DRAM into the iPhone X !

Removing the Hardware Home Button has a bigger negative impact on high-perf apps than anything else AAPL could have done (within reason, that is).

I'm 100% convinced AAPL now knows of their Blunder, & that next-gen iPhone X devices will include 4 GB of DRAM.
 
Things like this make me happy that Apple won that Samsung lawsuit for copying. The most dreaded and hated element of the iPhone X — the notch — is copied and embraced by other companies. Even after some of them mocked it.
 
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