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One reason for me not to buy 95% of the android phones is the horrible security update regime almost all producers have. 2 years after model introduction (so if you buy a year old model it's just one year left) and the best of them stop supporting. Lots of them never give out any update.
Plus if there is an update it might take easily 6 months before it reaches your phone.

I literally received a security and features update this morning for my OnePlus 3, a 2-year old phone. That's 9 days after the OnePlus 6 was released here in the UK.
I know what you mean about updates on android phones, they are generally few and far between. But OnePlus is *very* good at updating the OS.
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It used to be that Android phones were cheap, almost free, but the exchange is that you agree that they track your browsing history, apps you install, location, etc., you give up some privacy for a cheap phone.

Now that Android phones are $500+, and they still leak your personal info to any advertiser that wants it, I'm wondering what the appeal is.

I agree, but the ability ot install a VPN on an android phone is far easier than on an iPhone. You can argue that the iPhone/Apple doesn't harvest your data (and I'd agree) but if it's about trust then, ironaically, it's easier on Android.
The flip side, of course, is that if you do not put a VPN on your android phone then you give away everything. It's certainly an all-or-nothing thing.
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My launch day order gets delivered this Friday. Haven’t tried Android in years, and in light of all the bugs I’ve been seeing with my Apple products, I’m excited to give it a shot again.
Let me know what you think, please? I have the 3 and am interested to how the 6 stacks up.
 
I don't understand why people find the notch so terrible.

I'd MUCH, MUCH rather have a notch and the additional screen estate than a bar across the top.

Having a bar across the top defeats the whole goal of having an edge-to-edge display. It makes the phone look no different from yesteryear's phones that didn't have edge-to-edge screens. It simply ISN'T edge-to-edge with a bar, it's just a slightly thinner bezel. The notch looks much better in my opinion. I hope Apple sticks with the notch.

Having a notch isn’t edge to edge either dude
 
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The article is attempting to compare One Plus and Apple which is absurd because they are not even close to being in the same price segment nor is One Plus remotely a threat to Apple. Apple has only 1 competitor. Samsung.Samsung is Android. Period. The rest are Chinese rip offs who will rip off anything Apple does.

Personally, I think Apple faces more competition from their older iPhone models than Samsung itself.

Even Samsung’s own flagship phones sell in way fewer quantities than the iPhone. Apple is probably more worried about consumers deeming their existing iPhone good enough that they don’t feel the need to upgrade to the latest and greatest.

Samsung is nowhere near Apple’s equal in this regard.
 
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Funny to read the replies from people “loving” the notch. They are the prime example why Apple, and many others, can get away with such an awful design choice. Congratulations, you won. You got your fake “edge to edge” screen and removed the headphone jack, thanks people, what a great thing to support. Can’t wait for the next idiotic “design” change and read all the nonsense praise it’ll get, guaranteed.

I’ll go out on a limb here and say probably most of the notch fanboys are also those that comment how my they love the camera hump xD
 
Android itself is designed as an advertising platform
No, Android is an operating system. It was built by Google because they needed a modern mobile platform to deploy their services to. Android itself is open-source and can run without any Google presence.

is thus built from the ground up to be insecure in the first place
Android is designed to be used by billions and is very secure by default. It's built around the Linux kernel and implements some heavy-weight security features like sandboxing, strict per-app permissions and a disabled root user.

Apple has only 1 competitor. Samsung.Samsung is Android. Period.
Android is an operating system. Samsung is an electronics manufacturer that uses Android in their phones. The whole point of Android is to be an open platform, free to be used, shaped and deployed by anyone. Samsung is not the face of Android, does not represent Android in any way and certainly is not the prettiest poster boy of the Android world.

Unfortunately my OS (CyanoGen OS/CyanoGenMod) was for advanced users and it came with features missing. The entire experience was frustrating and made me steer clear of Android.

Just FYI (or anyone who's interested), CyanogenMod is still alive, now under the name LineageOS, and is extremely popular in the custom ROM community. While not being very friendly to Android newbies (or non-tech people in general), it pretty much represents the spirit of Android (and Linux). The whole thing is a community effort and adds many great features to AOSP (the pure Android), like fingerprint protected apps, hiding the status bar, or new shortcuts.
 
Apple does however use 3rd party servers in China to store your data on. Like the Chinese govt doesn't already have or have access to that info. Keep dreaming your data is safe with anyone.

I live in the US, so my data is over here, free from grubby little commie fingers.
 
Android is an operating system. Samsung is an electronics manufacturer that uses Android in their phones. The whole point of Android is to be an open platform, free to be used, shaped and deployed by anyone. Samsung is not the face of Android, does not represent Android in any way and certainly is not the prettiest poster boy of the Android world.
You're absolutely correct, However I don't agree with your statement saying "Samsung is not the face of Android".
For people who do not know much about Androids, Samsung absolutely is the poster boy for Android.
When it comes to competitors, and especially for people who'd want to switch, Samsung is often the go-to as it appears to offer "luxury" phones, like the iPhone. Where I feel that as other less known companies make phones that look cheap and flimsy.

While not being very friendly to Android newbies (or non-tech people in general), it pretty much represents the spirit of Android (and Linux).

From a personal point of view, I probably should have gone with a Samsung when I tried to make the switch, as they often (as far as I'm aware) use the vanilla Android OS made by Google and not a third party, making them (hopefully) more user friendly for people who want to switch.

The truth of the matter is, when a lot of people think of "Android", they'll think of Samsung.
 
Personally, I think Apple faces more competition from their older iPhone models than Samsung itself.

Even Samsung’s own flagship phones sell in way fewer quantities than the iPhone. Apple is probably more worried about consumers deeming their existing iPhone good enough that they don’t feel the need to upgrade to the latest and greatest.

Samsung is nowhere near Apple’s equal in this regard.

I agree with you! But, I think more cynical people would claim that throttling is evidence that Apple believes this, too.
 
I probably should have gone with a Samsung when I tried to make the switch, as they often (as far as I'm aware) use the vanilla Android OS made by Google and not a third party

No, they use their own UI called TouchWiz. The clean (Google flavored) Android is available in the Nexus, Pixel and Android One lines. TouchWiz used to be a total disaster in the early days, but it's gotten much better lately.
 
No, they use their own UI called TouchWiz. The clean (Google flavored) Android is available in the Nexus, Pixel and Android One lines. TouchWiz used to be a total disaster in the early days, but it's gotten much better lately.
Oh so many OSes.. I can't keep up! Thanks though, wasn't aware of this.
 
If you dislike the notch, I'd like to know if you've used a phone with a notch for more than a week.

I am indifferent about it with regards to my experience with apps and the OS and starting to swing towards liking it because apps are taking advantage of the anti-notch areas.

All the competitors seem to have some amount of bar at the bottom of the screen which in my opinion defeats the main aesthetic purpose of designing the notch in - having equal edges at the top, bottom, and sides (except where the notch is). There is really no other reasonable choice if your primary objective is an "edge-to-edge" screen on all 4 sides.
 
The notch is smaller and way less intrusive. Option to pull content away from the notch so it looks like a straight line and there's also an option of standard Android on-screen buttons which is better that the X's no buttons at all.

I might just get the 128GB one to replace my 6s but that's also because iOS is starting to annoy me more and more.
Good to know - have fun!
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Lol @ all the posts blasting MR for posting legitimate Apple alternatives
There are non Apple devices running iOS?
 
when iphone x came out, every journalist just MOCKED the notch from here 'til sunday. now every android developer does it. can we all come together and just say apple still innovates on design?
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well 1) you are at a website called MACrumors 2) people judging biases often times have their own biases
That's such a stupid, stupid reply. I am aware of what website I'm on, it doesn't mean they can't provide quality reviews that put's the consumer first instead of just attacking competitor's products and calling it a review.
 
I don't get why all these phones are copying Apple with the notch. I wouldn't have a phone with an ugly notch and from the way sales have been disappointing for the iPhone X it seems a lot of folks agree.

What makes you think they are copying "from" Apple? Why not "from" the Essential phone? Just curious how you arrive at the conclusion.
 

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