Hands-On With the OnePlus 7 Pro's New Pop-Up Camera and Bezel-Free Display

[snowboarder]

Nice to see these kind of wacky Chinese phones.

Wacky? Seriously?
How do you call a guy who comes up and talks for 2 hours about the most "AMAZING" iPhone yet
with ZERO new features? Is he "wacky" or simply he's a liar?
iPhone today is like a cassette player kept for ever in many new cars just for a sake of it.
In the same time everybody was looking for an USB port to connect their iPods to...

 

[sofila]

Seriously? Those are the two main things you took away from this? A moving part and the ever so tired and close-minded “It runs Android lol so no thanks” response?

What about it having an actual full screen with no hideous notch with a 90Hz refresh rate, 6-12 gigs of RAM, and being touted as the fastest Android phone from various reviewers... all at a low $650 price point?

One minute reply (as usual). Guess what? Didn't read past the headline and scrolled through some pics. In no way could something thoughtful come out.

 

[I7guy]

Seriously? Those are the two main things you took away from this? A moving part and the ever so tired and close-minded “It runs Android lol so no thanks” response?

What about it having an actual full screen with no hideous notch with a 90Hz refresh rate, 6-12 gigs of RAM, and being touted as the fastest Android phone from various reviewers... all at a low $650 price point?

I like the notch better than a pop up flash. Android isn’t my first choice of operating systems. Except for the flash, the specs are awesome. I’ll stick with my max though.

 

[sofila]

Moving parts? No thanks. Oh, and it runs Android? Pass.

You can go on buying iPhones as long as you want. No one forces you to change.
While you're at it, you could use the gazllions you've earned with AAPL and buy ten million more iPhones, so as to partially recover the "only Chinese" partial misstep

 

[gaximus]

Considering how most Android phones have followed the notch trend, it’s nice to see a company taking a different approach, even if the motorised camera idea is nothing new.

Does the ‘chin’ and resulting lack of symmetry on almost every Android bother anyone else, though?

Yes, the chin is annoying, and this phone still has a chin.

 

[insoft.uk]

years after getting cameras so small to be more integrated, a company without knowing it has digressed gone backwards we moved away from this years ago and the notch was a way to prevent this from coming back by allowing to keep the camera integrated and users are happy to accept the notch until one day the camera can be hidden behind the screen.

and this camera serves no purpose, just flip the screen upside down and the shin becomes the top with room for a camera, if it had no chin, then one would understand the camera pop up

 

[Laserducky]

You are correct but in terms of software in general(support, updates) One Plus is much much better than Oppo.
You can be sure that OnePlus 7 Pro will be one of the first phones to receive Android Q.

Yes, it will be good if it gets Android Q !

 

[GuruZac]

I actually like to notch on my iPhone X.

I do too. I remember before I got my XR, I defended the X design language because I can’t understand the big deal. It’s unique (was), and more importantly functional. I think the iPhone X/XS/XR are the best looking iPhones aesthetically.

 

[fairuz]

Yes, I remember, but I think it was a marketing strategy, such as when Spotify started. But it was a good one: it worked; I mean you got the invitations, right?

The fact that it works isn't really relevant, or if anything it's even worse. I don't want my friends selling me phones. Besides being annoying, it leads me to believe the phone isn't actually good.

 

[KevinN206]

Yes, the chin is annoying, and this phone still has a chin.

That chin is far less intrusive than the giant notch.

 

[fairuz]

I do too. I remember before I got my XR, I defended the X design language because I can’t understand the big deal. It’s unique (was), and more importantly functional. I think the iPhone X/XS/XR are the best looking iPhones aesthetically.

The app switching/killing sucked until they fixed it.
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Wacky? Seriously?
How do you call a guy who comes up and talks for 2 hours about the most "AMAZING" iPhone yet
with ZERO new features? Is he "wacky" or simply he's a liar?
iPhone today is like a cassette player kept for ever in many new cars just for a sake of it.
In the same time everybody was looking for an USB port to connect their iPods to...

To answer your question, the guy is wacky, but the iPhone isn't. I've had my iPhone 6 for years and can see having it for as long as it's supported. People buy Android phones then toss them after a year, partially cause the support sucks. It's bad enough that buying an old, used iPhone for cheap still lasts you longer than a new Android phone. And the best phone has to be the one that someone would keep the longest, right?

 

[torana355]

Not everyone is a teenage girl "Instagram model" and uses a selfie camera or cares about it for the few times they will use it in the phone's lifetime. Despite what out social media obsessed culture wants you to believe that everyone is obsessed with taking photos and showing their lives off on the internet.

If you dont use it then it can't really break. But you cannot put away a camera bump or notch out of sight.

Popup camera>notch any day for me for the maybe 10 times I will ever use the front camera in a year vs hundreds of times a day looking at the display

Well said sir! I don't take selfies so a pop up camera would actually be preferable for me. Also pop up cameras have been around for a while now and i haven't heard of any reliability issues so far.
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The iPhone chin is still smaller
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Oh yes by a tiny margin, meanwhile at the top of the phone there is a GIGANTIC freaking notch. I'm in tears laughing at your post.

 

[lesiu]

flagship smartphone ?
not waterproof and no wireless charging ?
No, thx.

 

[ROGmaster]

Just bland in general. Just my opinion. Others like it.
Looks like a gadget from the old Space:1999 tv show, all rounded and soft.

Opinions can be incorrect.
OnePlus 7 Pro has a more modern design that most smartphones available on the market right now so what you say doesn't make sense at all.
It's funny that your example is something found in a SF TV Show so something that is not real in the first place.

 

[first-to-tea]

Although I don’t like moving parts on a mobile device, for many years, regular cameras had moving parts, and they worked just fine. This solution has to be better than protruding cameras and notches. People forget that iPhone already has moving parts including tiny parts like optical image stabilization and haptic feedback.

 

[DaveyVigs]

Well said sir! I don't take selfies so a pop up camera would actually be preferable for me. Also pop up cameras have been around for a while now and i haven't heard of any reliability issues so far.

Ditto! I wish every phone manufacturer made a second device without a front facing camera for customers that don’t have a need for one.

I remember not too long ago my company said no phones with rear cameras due to security concerns. I had to take the SIM out of up my Razr and put it in my cheapo Nokia before leaving my car.

I’ve had several OP phones and trust their build quality as much as Apple if not more. I will likely buy the OP7Pro and will have 4 cameras but likely never use the FF camera.

 

[partydorm]

If Apple doesn't innovate like others, at least you're losing upgrade customers.
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Ditto! I wish every phone manufacturer made a second device without a front facing camera for customers that don’t have a need for one.

Count me in.

 

[The Game 161]

 

[ajguckian]

I think it's pretty neat, and glad to see someone do something different for a change (folding phones notwithstanding). The price seems awesome, only in that I can foolishly hope it will keep us from seeing another rather large bump on the next iphone, haha.

 

[riteshritesh]

Hahahaha. A lot of celebs have done this and lost their contracts. Happens all over the world.

 

[MacBergin]

I Hate that you gloss over the HUGE cons that this phone does not offer wireless charging and the under screen fingerprint "security"
I hope Apple is taking note and NOT planning on adding any of this phones features. I don't really mind the notch. Plus if you take it away people will find something else to complain about. I'd rather they complain about a stupid notch. Also you were raving about the screen and no notch tey when you were watching the video in landscape mode it clearly went no where near the chin or forehead of the phone..

 

[duncansby]

If I were going to jump ship to Android, this would definitely be the device I would do it on. I'm not going to, but if I did...

I jumped to the one plus 6T last year and it is magnificent - faster than my son's iPhone XR and £250 cheaper

 

[0947347]

The app switching/killing sucked until they fixed it.
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To answer your question, the guy is wacky, but the iPhone isn't. I've had my iPhone 6 for years and can see having it for as long as it's supported. People buy Android phones then toss them after a year, partially cause the support sucks. It's bad enough that buying an old, used iPhone for cheap still lasts you longer than a new Android phone. And the best phone has to be the one that someone would keep the longest, right?

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[Defthand]

Appears the pop up camera isn't driven by an electro-magnet. It's just a screw-driven assembly attached to a common servo. If activated repeatedly, a message appears to discourage the behavior...

 

[techwhiz]

Respectfully, water resistance isn’t as simple as leaving it in a shallow jug or dipping the camera in for a few moments. The chief problem with any kind of resistance is water pressure and, whilst the OnePlus will likely satisfy most scenarios (e.g. dropping it into the toilet or sink), I doubt it would be able to manage much more than that as if it could, I don’t see why OnePlus would avoid it being tested for an IP rating.

Cost. It adds cost to the devices.
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flagship smartphone ?
not waterproof and no wireless charging ?
No, thx.

Some people don't care about "waterproof".
But let's be clear, even Apple iPhones are not "waterproof" they are water resistant.
Apple also doesn't warranty or phone for water damage.