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Hands-On With the OnePlus 7 Pro's New Pop-Up Camera and Bezel-Free Display

This phone looks very cool! For anyone thinking about switching from iOS to Android, here's my story:

I started using iPhone back when there was just iPhone. Feeling uninspired after the X and disappointed at the pricing, I jumped ship and picked up my first Android based device in March of this year (Pixel 3). Now that I'm vested in the platform, I've been paying a lot more attention to other Android based phones and I have to say, if you as a customer crave that innovation excitement, this space is a great place to be. Sure, you may be met with failures along the way (*cough* Fold), but you cannot argue that the competition is driving innovation further. IMO Apple simply cannot compete on this level any longer. I'll never argue that they don't make exceptional phones, because they truly do, but the competition is just too sprawling and Apple does not have the resources to put up the same fight that they once could. I won't lie though, I miss iMessage at least 3x a week - and not for the blue bubble factor but bc most of my friends and family are still on iPhone and so when they send me MMS, I receive a hot garbage variant.
 
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1144557 said:
This and the S10/S10+ really show how kind of embarrassing it has become; from innovator to regurgitator. And this is coming from an iPhone user since the 3GS.

Adding a 3rd camera, and faster processor for a 3rd straight year with no design changes and a huge notch, is not innovative. Face ID or not. You are telling me in 3 model years, into 2020 with this fall's model, they can't figure out how to shrink the notch significantly or figure something else out? (like move the earpeice into the top frame and push the sensors/camera to the middle)

It is highly disappointing to see a company like Apple not able to innovate anymore. Regurgitating designs with a faster CPU and better camera(s) each year isn't interesting anymore. It's certainly not making people buy new phones/upgrade.

And this is 60% the cost of my current base 64gb XS Max; that's sad.

Not a fan of moving parts but never take selfies so not a real issue. Nor a fan of curved screens. But may be looking elsewhere from iOS this year if the rumors hold up as they tend to do by this time of year. Apple isn't pushing tech forward anymore like others are doing.
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Apple seems to be more about profits, ego and pride.
It's about creating their vision and sticking to their decision for the next 2-3 models adding incremental features each year. I don't buy Tim's claim that that they make the best possible phone at the time. They know well in advance what the next iterations.

In some respects I understand their challenges. You're shipping billions of devices so you can't be changing the molds and tooling every year. And they want to be seen as the steady ship, the gold standard of phones who will only launch a feature when it's good and ready.
 
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1050792 said:
How can you then speak about durability and proven design of a phone you've never used?
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By looking at it? "Using" the phone wouldn't make me any more or less qualified to state I don't want a motorized selfie camera.
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Bulletsrx said:
Lol
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The mate 20 Pro has 3D face unlock
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That doesn't work as well.
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Smartass said:
They claim they've tested the camera moving part 200.000 times. Wether this is true or not, i think it should hold well for anybody who has this phone for at least 3 years..
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Yeah, in a lab with no dirt or other variables.

Samsung also tested the fold in a lab and it failed the first day in the wild.
 
Maybe the motorised selfie camera is one additional component that risks breaking. Sure.

And at the same time the next iPhone will look dated as hell sporting that tired 2-year old barfnotch and square camera tumorbump when it's unveiled next September, while every other phone maker is having a field day designing and building their phones in ways Apple's design team has apparently forgotten.
 
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If this phone had wireless charging and ran ios, I'd buy it. .. oh wait . . . Funny thing is that Apple will likely pick up this or a similar design in about two years, just as others are moving on again.
 
No one really like faceID on iPhone because it distorts the screen. Steve will fire the Apple design team and Jony Ive if he is coming back!

By the way, kudos to OnePlus for offering full screen display on its touch-phone
 
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Baymowe335 said:
By looking at it? "Using" the phone wouldn't make me any more or less qualified to state I don't want a motorized selfie camera.
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That doesn't work as well.
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Yeah, in a lab with no dirt or other variables.

Samsung also tested the fold in a lab and it failed the first day in the wild.
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I look on the leaked images of the iPhone XI and can tell it's not durable. Its fragile POS. I mean if you can look on something and determine it must be fragile. I can do the same.

Who said one plus didnt test with dirt and other variables? Oh you're just assuming with no knowledge if they did or didnt. Ignorance.
 
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ROGmaster said:
Really? I simply don't understand what you mean by that. Can you give examples of things from the 70’s or 80’s that look like the OnePlus 7 Pro?
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Just bland in general. Just my opinion. Others like it.
Looks like a gadget from the old Space:1999 tv show, all rounded and soft.
 
It reminds me a lot to the Motorola 360 watch, and to the majority of Android phones. They seem to look good in renders, but you can guess it’s not well built. And, as always, many people here asking for a new iPhone design without telling us why. I won’t talk about functional design, since it’s seems obvious that it’s not good.
 
theredensign said:
Do you find the lack of ecosystem integration an annoyance? ...
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No it seams to be not an annoyance. The Apple Watch 4 and the iPhone just not used anymore.
Documents are stored on Google Drive, One Drive or Dropbox - they can be used on the Mac.
For notes I use Onenote on the Mac, the iPad and on the Mate 20 Pro.
Using the Mate 20 Pro as an external "disk" is much easier much faster as it is with the iPhone - USB-C 3.1 on the Mate 20 Pro s side.
The AirPods 2 are very usable on the Mate 20 Pro (there is an app "AssistantTrigger") and interestingly I can charge the AirPods 2 using the Mate 20 Pro per reverse induction.
There are Android - analoga for most if not all ios - apps.
 
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MX20 said:
No one really like faceID on iPhone because it distorts the screen. Steve will fire the Apple design team and Jony Ive if he is coming back!

By the way, kudos to OnePlus for offering full screen display on its touch-phone
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So much wrong. (a) I like FaceID. It's much better than fingerprints. (b) It doesn't distort the screen. (c) Steve is dead and he isn't coming back. Some people called Steve a God, but he isn't Jesus.
 
B4U said:
Someone may need to do a DFMEA on this.
What happens when the phone slips out of hand when taking selfie with the motorized camera stuck out?
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One would think the motorised camera is the last thing your'll be worried about at that point when you pick it up to the inevitable cracked screen and scratches everywhere.

Top Tip: Don't drop your phone, or if your accident prone, insure it.
 
fairuz said:
Who cares, it runs Android. Like the refresh rate on a tiny screen or the RAM matters to anyone besides tech reviewers. The headphone jack matters than those things, and it doesn't have one, so that's a non-starter for me, plus the company is annoying.
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They had a shill-to-your-friends marketing strategy that worked. For a while, you had to be "invited" to buy a OnePlus phone, and by buying one you'd be given a few invites for friends that you were somehow incentivized to use. I had so many people trying to get me to buy one that I decided never to even consider it.
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Yes, I remember, but I think it was a marketing strategy, such as when Spotify started. But it was a good one: it worked; I mean you got the invitations, right?
 
I have never minded a bezel that allows to hold a phone without touching the edges of the screen. Nor chins or foreheads on phones. I'd rather have front firing speakers.
 
nicho said:
Hang on what? They released a newer flagship phone with a poorer implementation of the tech? (Genuine question)
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Different series. Mate and P-series are different product lines. Each gets renewed every year, but Mate in the autumn and P in spring. That way they please more customers which prefer different designs and technical details and as a bonus comes out with new stuff twice a year. They've chosen (so far) to have 3D face unlock only on Mate.

Huawei is far more nimble than Apple nowadays and aren't bound by "courage". That way they can both have and not have 3,5mm headphone jacks in different models as another example.
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Baymowe335 said:
Yeah, in a lab with no dirt or other variables.

Samsung also tested the fold in a lab and it failed the first day in the wild.
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You mean like Apple tested their butterfly keyboards before launch?
 
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Android OS aside, the lack of ingress protection rating makes this design a non-starter for me. I'm pretty hard on my phones and the nature of my job means I often need to use my phone outside in all nature of weather. I don't want to be worried I'm going to brick it every time I use it in the rain. Nor do I want to put a massive waterproof case on it. I'm not even sure a truly waterproof case would be possible for this phone given the pop up camera. The pop up camera also looks easily breakable to me.

Some of the other features and capabilities look exciting tho.
 
MultiMan said:
Different series. Mate and P-series are different product lines. Each gets renewed every year, but Mate in the autumn and P in spring. That way they please more customers which prefer different designs and technical details and as a bonus comes out with new stuff twice a year. They've chosen (so far) to have 3D face unlock only on Mate.
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Well then fair enough... I figured since the P series came out later it would have the same enhancements a phone 6 months older had. Then again there are times when Apple did similar things and waited more than one refresh for ipads to catch up with iphones.

Thanks for the well explained correction.
 
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