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I hope Apple steps it up hardware-wise this year. I'd like to see them take graphics more seriously instead of focusing solely on making products thin...especially with the VR revolution happening right now. There are a lot of great new cards from Nvidia and ATI that I'm jealous of as a Mac user. :(
 
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Some of these specs don't make sense. None the less, I'm glad Apple didn't refresh the Macbook Pro because of a 400 day cycle. Sometimes hardware availability dictates release times. With that being said, there are a lot of new technologies entering mass production that would make for a HUGE upgrade to the Macbook Pro in the coming months...

1. Kabylake (entering mass production). It would be lame for Apple to jump on Skylake at this point
2. Samsung NVMe SSD. This would offer a a lot more room to make battery larger or chasis smaller.
3. Bluetooth 5 hardware. Double the speed, 4x the range - enough said.
4. AMD Polaris Graphics Card - As article states.
5. 5G cellular data chipsets - wildcard.

These are cutting edge technology, if you think any will appear in a new MacBook Pro, you is deluded. If there is any new release in the next 6 months, the design will have already been finalised with tech that is already mainstream. Will be at least 18 months until you start seeing any of that list in the Mac line up.
 
The product line is half-baked. For the sake of argument, let's disregard the age of the hardware still selling for the same price as when first introduced. Well, depending on which country you're in, it might be more expensive to buy now, as Apple have upped the pricing due to exchange rates.

There used to be a time where you could happily recommend 'just buy a Mac'. Now you have to recommend 'Oh, don't buy that one'. Spinning drives give a terrible user experience and frankly destroys the brand quality and loyalty. Absolutely no Mac in 2016 should have anything less than a Fusion drive.

The entry-level Mac Mini, once a capable and generously-priced machine to introduce people to the Apple ecosystem, is now a painfully sluggish, soldered, non-upgradable doorstop. You buy an iMac with a Retina display, and get a 5400RPM drive. As if to add insult to injury, you can't even use the new ones in Target Display Mode -- god forbid, as some people may buy the entry-level one so they can have a cheap 4K/5K monitor, rather than having to pay extra for something that performs vaguely acceptably for the price.

I would love for Tim Cook to work some poor Apple advisor's job for a week, and has to explain to somebody why their 2K machine from a self-congratulating, commited-to-quality company, is so darn sluggish. "Well, you paid a lot -- but you didn't pay enough."

It just makes me mad. How much money do you need before it's enough, and you start giving people a little value for their purchase?

I completely agree, but what baffles me the most is that NO ONE in high up in Apple realises this? Or if they do they are not giving a rats ass about mac users anymore. I used to see apple as a brand I would happily give my money. But now while waiting for a proper laptop for several years I don't feel that way anymore. I am still gonna wait and get the new MBP, but it pisses me off that I have to give my money to a company that I feel like doesn't give a crap about me as a mac user anymore.

It is ridiculous to see a show like WWDC where people violently applaud new functionalities on the iPhone that other apps or brands have had for ages. And even if they didn't, do you really need to applaud for 3x emojis or ****ing "invisible ink", seriously? I wish the day comes when either people wake up and start booing at Apple during these presentations or Apple wakes up and gives us something thats actually worth applauding! It is about time!
 
Apple... the release everything at once company.

Fall Every Year:
Updated macOS
Updated iOS
Updated tvOS
Updated watchOS
Updated iPhones
Updated AppleWatch
Updated Macbook
Updated Macbook Pro
Updated iMac

And best part, when something goes wrong, you don't know if it's the new hardware or software... heck it could be both.

They use to keep the buzz and excitement going on year round by staggered releases. Now, they only get my attention two times a year with one usually ending up in disappointment (WWDC) and the other in frustration because of buggy software (Fall everything release).
Every year, except the years when they don't.
 
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Or they are working on it and don't want to rush out a product line before it's finished. Patience is going to be a virtue here as frustrating as it is, id rather have a new Macbook Pro announced when ready than have one rushed out.
I don't know man. Mac Pro is outdated as f***, same with tb display and rMBP (and don't get me started on the Mini). Im not expecting them to re-invent the wheel but let's be serious. Apple is slacking, puting all their efforts on to the "toys" departement.
 
What about the MacPro....????? Any new refresh on that Cylinder of UBER Power!! ?

I have been waiting three years now for an update... what is going on with Apple... FFS!!! We deserve the attention and respect also... OK... we are not a massive consumer electronics market.... but we were the only money making side of the business until the iMac came along in all it's colours.... come on Apple... looks after the PROs also...
 
all I want apple to release this year is a new iMac with the Polaris gpu or Geforce MX 1080. And hopefully this year will be the first time they can actually fit desktop class gpus into iMacs.
 
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Used to be iPods> Macbooks > Mac Desktop.

Now its , iPhone > Macbooks+Mac Desktop + everything else.

If Xcode was available on windows natively, I won't bother with Apple hardware. Just invest in a good Desktop + iPad.

OS X on VMware can only take one so far..
 
Or they are working on it and don't want to rush out a product line before it's finished. Patience is going to be a virtue here as frustrating as it is, id rather have a new Macbook Pro announced when ready than have one rushed out.


Rushed out? The 15" MacBook Pro is a fossil compared to similarly prices competitors. A beautiful fossil, but a fossil nonetheless. Just like the saying: You can cover a turd in glitter, but its still a turd! You can have the slogan for free Apple!
 
Will someone explain to me why Apple can't update their computer hardware with normal modern specs like what we took for granted under Steve Jobs? Nothing too flashy, just what is expected in 2016? Build them and they will come. I don't understand the wait; they are losing to the competition by neglecting dedicated user base who use product on daily basis.
 
I completely agree, but what baffles me the most is that NO ONE in high up in Apple realises this? Or if they do they are not giving a rats ass about mac users anymore. I used to see apple as a brand I would happily give my money. But now while waiting for a proper laptop for several years I don't feel that way anymore. I am still gonna wait and get the new MBP, but it pisses me off that I have to give my money to a company that I feel like doesn't give a crap about me as a mac user anymore.

It is ridiculous to see a show like WWDC where people violently applaud new functionalities on the iPhone that other apps or brands have had for ages. And even if they didn't, do you really need to applaud for 3x emojis or ****ing "invisible ink", seriously? I wish the day comes when either people wake up and start booing at Apple during these presentations or Apple wakes up and gives us something thats actually worth applauding! It is about time!
Why wouldn't they boo at them? Wish they did but these people gonna be banned.
 
Still, though ... that 20-core Xeon E5-2698 is delicious, even on a single-core setup.
Ok, I should have written: ... unless you can make use of 8+ processor cores. The problem is that for most common tasks, 8-cores aren't faster than 4-cores, combined with the fact that 4-core i7s are faster than 4-core Xeons (the former being of a newer CPU generation) while costing twice as much (per CPU). This makes the Mac Pro uncompetitive for all but very high-end uses, even if it were updated whenever Intel ships new Xeons (Intel has only shipped one update to the Sandy Bridge E5s used in the 2013 Mac Pro, in the form of Haswell versions, thus even if Apple had used them, the Mac Pro would still be stuck with Haswell CPUs from 2014).
 
Usually developer conferences are for developers....its more about code and applications. Hardware reveals if it ties to that maybe.

My disappointment about this conference is apple's best reveal never even made it to the stage. the prospect of an OS changed down to its very core....would have rated center stage at this wwdc if I ran the show.

Yeah but remember they had to spend 30minutes talking about slams and invisible ink...
 
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I really think it's time they do a serious hardware upgrade to the MacBook Pro, and fall into a consistent silent hardware upgrade cycle every 6-9 months. My 15" 2012 MBP has an NVIDIA 650M. 4 years later, I can pay the same price I did back then, which will get me a 15" rMBP with integrated graphics. This has practically identical graphics performance due to no dGPU.

This just should not be the case, especially in a Pro machine that costs so much. Graphics power in the last 4 years has made even more leaps than CPU performance. You wouldn't think that's the case with the machines Apple are selling, and it's so odd they'd skimp on GPUs whilst pushing OpenGL/Metal in the newer OS X iterations.

But how is the laptop supposed to be super thin then?
 
What the hell do I recommend to a college student looking to buy a Mac? Hard to recommend a 3 year old macbook pro...

Recommend waiting or buying something else than mac. Maybe if people stopped handing over way to much money for glitter covered turds, apple would release something good again.
 
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Nice to see a hardware company release new hardware.

Just installing Windows 10 on my new Dell E7470. Wish it were a Mac. But where can I get a touch screen laptop running OS X? (Hackintosh of course)
 
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I was hoping for a new iPad Pro this fall, I have been considering it, but I am not going to buy a first gen with the possibility of a new revision by March 2017. If that is the case, I will just buy a bumper for my 6s and maybe a Watch after seeing the considerable improvements in watchOS 3.
 
Kabylake (entering mass production). It would be lame for Apple to jump on Skylake at this point
It also would be lame for Intel to release some variations of their mobile Skylake processors just three months before it releases their first Kabylake processors. The first Skylake processors were released on 1 Sep 2015, but almost a third of their mobile Skylake processors still hasn't been released 9 months later (among them exactly the ones going into the 13" MBP: 28-W TDB with with Iris 550).
 
So let me get this straight. This fall we might get:

iPad Pro 12"
MacBook 13"
MacBook Pro 13"
MacBook Pro 15"
Thunderbolt Display
iMac
Apple Watch
iPhone 7
iPhone 7 Plus
Mac Pro
Mac Mini

All in one event?

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I will give them credit with the iMac, although I do believe a re-design on it's look may be needed now. They at least have been keeping it updated and added that gorgeous screen into it, they even updated it from the 2014 model. The only thing besides a new "look" it needs is they ALL should be SSD drives in them. Some aloof consumer is going to hear about how amazing iMac's are, purchase it, and see spinning beach balls all the time.

As far as their other products go, I have no idea what they are doing. They need to trim the fat and get rid of that awful Macbook Air and screen, and update the Macbook Pro's and Mac Pro's.
 
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