bartelby said:
Oh right.
So if he'd gone in a Klu Klux Klan outfit that would have been OK as well?
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Harry the Nazi
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Oh right.
So if he'd gone in a Klu Klux Klan outfit that would have been OK as well?
i heard the european royal families suffer from centuries of inbreeding.
i never really believed that. but now......
i never really believed that. but now......
Blue Velvet said:
To me it would be the same as going dressed as a clown or a fairy or the rear end of a horse, he's wouldn't be one of those would he?
So why should dressing as a nazi make him one?
It's just fancy dress, I can distinguish reality from fantasy.
Maybe it's just me.
I have no interest in what famous people do, I rarely watch TV I don't read gossip in newspaper (as gossip isn't news). I just can't believe the fuss being kicked up about it.
OK, I admit you could view it as bad taste, but does it deserve the media coverage it's getting or are there more important subjects for the front pages and lead headlines?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/01/13/harry.react/index.html
heres a follow up article
looks like theres more fall out, some are even calling for him to not go to sandhurst
heres a follow up article
looks like theres more fall out, some are even calling for him to not go to sandhurst
bartelby said:
Well, he's certainly doing a good impression of a rear of a horse at the moment...
Certain articles of clothing have a symbolic value that carry a meaning far beyond a mere costume. If you can't see that, then I believe you are being wilfully obtuse...
I heard that on the news this morning. Not quite sure what sense it makes not to let him govirividox said:
iGAV said:
Ha! But his celebrity status will protect him from that, I'm sure....
Apology aside, I'd love to here from him *how* he went about getting a Nazi uniform and deciding to wear it in the first place.
D
Like most of the toffs and it-people around Kensington and Chelsea, he appears to have no concept of what effect his actions may provoke or what others may think - and like most of them doesn't care either. It's just something amusing that the plebs get riled up over after all...
The Palace have apologised - they probably didn't bother to wake Harry before they did so. So I doubt the furore will have any impact on him.
I know it was fancy dress and there are situations where people wear costumes that otherwise they wouldn't. See a 'guys and dolls' where some men choose to cross dress for humour's sake. But unless the party theme was 'dress as an extra from Indiana Jones' party the costume was inappropriate
The theme was apparently 'colonials and natives' - I can't even see how a Nazi officer is obvious there!
The Palace have apologised - they probably didn't bother to wake Harry before they did so. So I doubt the furore will have any impact on him.
I know it was fancy dress and there are situations where people wear costumes that otherwise they wouldn't. See a 'guys and dolls' where some men choose to cross dress for humour's sake. But unless the party theme was 'dress as an extra from Indiana Jones' party the costume was inappropriate
The theme was apparently 'colonials and natives' - I can't even see how a Nazi officer is obvious there!
Blue Velvet said:
OK, so the rear end of a horse was a bad example because he, along with the rest of them, clearly is one.
Yes, I can see the symbolic value, but does wearing a certain garment as fancy dress mean you subscribe to all the meanings behind that garment.
I say no!
Applespider said:
Don't tar us all with the same brush.
Not all people who live in K&C are like that... incl. me.
Certainly not - I work in K&C and most who live/work there are normal, pleasant people. I was trying to blame toffs and it-people - specifically the subset of them who live in K&C, since they come across as arrogant, uncaring jerks much of the time as they sweep out of the Rolls Royce into Jimmy Choo, little caring who happens to be walking along the pavement at the time.
Blue Velvet said:
here here i have some family who live in that area!!! they arent at all like that
on a lighter note think of it hes only 20 imagine the years of stupidy we will have the honor to witnessing
andiwm2003 said:i heard the european royal families suffer from centuries of inbreeding.
i never really believed that. but now......
It's true, actually. There are plenty of links between the various royal houses.
A lot of the connections came up in the 1400s and 1500s - Henry VIII and his six wives. Catherine of Aragon (first wife) was a Spanish Princess, her cousin was the Imperial Emperor. There's links to the soon-to-be-beheaded French monarchy as well.
Prince Phillip, the husband of the current queen, is of Greek descent. People often comment about the Germanic links of the current British royals as well.
As for Harry, I'd personally line him, blindfolded, up against the wall and show no sympathy at all. He's a complete idiot. Given that it's coming up to the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, it's particularly insensitive timing. Harry seems to have inherited his father's lack of intelligence instead of his comedy ears.
I'm a huge WWII buff, but even in historical circles the Swastika is generally considered to be an item that should not be visible outside an educational context. In fact, even the guys that do WWII re-enactments are very careful about removing such insignia when they are not actually "on the field".
the Swastika was and is the standard of the Nazis and their ideological descendants, and has come to represent evil and hate to our society. It is extremely offensive, and I can hardly over-emphasize that.
So, Harry's costume was a dumb idea, and hopefully nothing more than that. Hopefully this scandal doesn't cause too much permanent damage to his public image
the Swastika was and is the standard of the Nazis and their ideological descendants, and has come to represent evil and hate to our society. It is extremely offensive, and I can hardly over-emphasize that.
So, Harry's costume was a dumb idea, and hopefully nothing more than that. Hopefully this scandal doesn't cause too much permanent damage to his public image
VincentVega said:
THAT made me laugh.
Could somebody fill this Yank in on what general public opinion of the Princes in the UK is nowadays? My knowlege on the current state of the monarchy is shaky.
VincentVega said:
Thanks for brightening up my bleak California morning
At least if he would have inherited his father's ears people (read plebs) would just smile at him insead of being insulted by his stupidity and lack of sensitivity!
That boy deserves a good kicking for all he's done of late. Skanky bastard... there's definitely Hewitt blood in there.virividox said:
I'm a Royalist at heart, but this guy's a moron - someone, please... kill him before he gets the throne.
brap said:
lets just hope he never has the oppertunity to ascend to the throne
no need for his blood, just ship him off somewhere to live in isolation
andiwm2003 said:
I'm sure he wishes he command-z the whole thing though!
...must step away from computer...