iPhone XR Has anybody come from an OLED display to iPhone XR

[MEJHarrison]

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Is your entire world completely black and white? How about "Then [the] person who can't tell the difference has worse eyesight that I do"? See how easy it is to offer up an opinion without presenting it as fact or speaking in ridiculous hyperbole? You don't need to speak for the entire world every time your mouth opens. And there's a far wider range of eyesight out there than perfect eyesight or blindness.

Learn to speak for yourself instead of speaking for others and you'll find yourself being taken a lot more seriously. Just a suggestion.

 

[Snot Rox]

I’ve had the Galaxy S8+ since launch and just switched to the Xr last week. For me, there wasn’t any difference other than the colors being way more saturated/vibrant, but that doesn’t mean the colors on the Xr aren’t. After a week of using it I don’t really care and am enjoying the device. The screen looks great to me.

 

[Closingracer]

Is your entire world completely black and white? How about "Then [the] person who can't tell the difference has worse eyesight that I do"? See how easy it is to offer up an opinion without presenting it as fact or speaking in ridiculous hyperbole? You don't need to speak for the entire world every time your mouth opens. And there's a far wider range of eyesight out there than perfect eyesight or blindness.

Learn to speak for yourself instead of speaking for others and you'll find yourself being taken a lot more seriously. Just a suggestion.

Ok for the one or two people out of thousands ? The 99% it’s factually better . Sorry the XR screen is CRAP in 2019. In a vacuum it’s ok but we don’t live in a vacuum

 

[agente46]

Ok for the one or two people out of thousands ? The 99% it’s factually better . Sorry the XR screen is CRAP in 2019. In a vacuum it’s ok but we don’t live in a vacuum

You sure are one angry person over this. Sorry the world doesn’t see things through your eyes. You NEED to accept that and just move on. You are entitled to your opinions and so are others.

 

[Closingracer]

You sure are one angry person over this. Sorry the world doesn’t see things through your eyes. You NEED to accept that and just move on. You are entitled to your opinions and so are others.

It’s still factually a bad display. 2018 shouldn’t have be 720P period . No but ifs or what’s.

 

[agente46]

It’s still factually a bad display. 2018 shouldn’t have be 720P period . No but ifs or what’s.

So Apple DID release a 720p display in 2018. WTF are you gonna do about it? Cry about it online? Lol! You’re not going to change Apple’s mind. just get over it and move on with your life.

 

[MEJHarrison]

Ok for the one or two people out of thousands ? The 99% it’s factually better . Sorry the XR screen is CRAP in 2019. In a vacuum it’s ok but we don’t live in a vacuum

Wow, you just don't get it. Must be interesting living in a world that revolves completely around you. Thankfully those who choose not to live in your little bubble are doing just fine with their new phones, regardless of what you've decided they ought to see and think.

 

[Droid187]

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I can read your post nice and crisp on my Xr right now. Thanks for trying to convince others what they should be seeing with their own eyes.

My brother has the Xr Max and he is very impressed with the Xr display. To my eyes, if I’m not comparing side by side, I can’t tell the difference

 

[Cladster]

It’s still factually a bad display. 2018 shouldn’t have be 720P period . No but ifs or what’s.

You are still using V1 FID on a X, give me V2 FID on my XR any day, X was worst iPhone i have had and have had them all, screen difference is minimal and i have had X, XS max, unless you have them side by side, then the price difference is not worth it IMO, they don't do anything different.

 

[xxray]

The OLED is pretty important to me because I use my phone a lot at night. The difference between true blacks and LCD blacks are very noticeable when you’re in a dark environment. That said, the Apple’s latest LCDs are still fantastic displays and if you don’t notice or don’t mind the lower contrast, it’s a great option.

 

[tt061282]

I have never seen the amount of people arguing other people’s opinions as I do on this forum. If you say something that a person who paid $1500 for there phone don’t like... they’ll argue to the death with you...

Let me say this... I have 3 of the 4 “X” Devices that have EVER been released. I have the X, XS Max and the iPhone Xʀ. I have used the side by side. I’ve used them in dark rooms. I’ve downloaded dark and white wallpapers on all 3. I’ve watched YouTube videos, I’ve watched movies. I have read reviews. I have watched reviews. After all of that...

I formed what I call... MY OWN OPINION!!!

I have not used my X or XS Max as my “Daily Driver” since October 26th.

It’s honestly amazing that my 20/20 vision does not discern enough of a difference to want to use that phone I paid $1500 for...

Oh well... I’ll still use my Xʀ regardless..

 

[Cladster]

I have never seen the amount of people arguing other people’s opinions as I do on this forum. If you say something that a person who paid $1500 for there phone don’t like... they’ll argue to the death with you...

Let me say this... I have 3 of the 4 “X” Devices that have EVER been released. I have the X, XS Max and the iPhone Xʀ. I have used the side by side. I’ve used them in dark rooms. I’ve downloaded dark and white wallpapers on all 3. I’ve watched YouTube videos, I’ve watched movies. I have read reviews. I have watched reviews. After all of that...

I formed what I call... MY OWN OPINION!!!

I have not used my X or XS Max as my “Daily Driver” since October 26th.

It’s honestly amazing that my 20/20 vision does not discern enough of a difference to want to use that phone I paid $1500 for...

Oh well... I’ll still use my Xʀ regardless..

Agree and i have had the X, XSMax, although only have the XR now, best iPhone is the one you are using now My XR i got new for $700Aud here, my XS max i paid $1799 on release, both 64gb, would anyone think the max is worth $1,100 more? lol. NO.

 

[MacLappy]

It’s still factually a bad display. 2018 shouldn’t have be 720P period . No but ifs or what’s.

It doesn’t, it’s 828p. For a lot of people, using the device at a comfortable distance, there is no perceivable difference from 1200p or even 2400p for the matter.

Apple spend a lot of time and money researching before deciding on the perfect PPI, where the human eye is unable to discern between each individual pixel. This magical number is 326PPI. From that point onwards there has always been an iPhone release each year with that PPI. The iPhone XR is 326 PPI, the fact that it is much bigger than the first retina iPhone and thus a device that you place further away from your face makes each individual pixel even harder to discern.

Apple made an excellent choice on the iphone XR LCD panel, it’s good enough that each individual pixel is indiscernible while working to make other more discernible factors outstanding. The lower resolution means the iPhone XR requires less resources while generating less heat and more fps. The color reproduction are truly amazing for an LCD, in fact it is the most color accurate LCD in the industry. Apple even took the effort to round off the corners and gave it the ability to tap to wake, both of this features are new on a LCD iPhone.

So no apple did not cheap out, and no the iPhone XR does not have a bad screen. In fact it has an excellent and practical screen. For those who are truly bothered there is always the XS/XS Max.

 

[Closingracer]

It doesn’t, it’s 828p. For a lot of people, using the device at a comfortable distance, there is no perceivable difference from 1200p or even 2400p for the matter.

Apple spend a lot of time and money researching before deciding on the perfect PPI, where the human eye is unable to discern between each individual pixel. This magical number is 326PPI. From that point onwards there has always been an iPhone release each year with that PPI. The iPhone XR is 326 PPI, the fact that it is much bigger than the first retina iPhone and thus a device that you place further away from your face makes each individual pixel even harder to discern.

Apple made an excellent choice on the iphone XR LCD panel, it’s good enough that each individual pixel is indiscernible while working to make other more discernible factors outstanding. The lower resolution means the iPhone XR requires less resources while generating less heat and more fps. The color reproduction are truly amazing for an LCD, in fact it is the most color accurate LCD in the industry. Apple even took the effort to round off the corners and gave it the ability to tap to wake, both of this features are new on a LCD iPhone.

So no apple did not cheap out, and no the iPhone XR does not have a bad screen. In fact it has an excellent and practical screen. For those who are truly bothered there is always the XS/XS Max.

Apple did cheap out and should of used a 1080p screen

 

[Cladster]

Apple did cheap out and should of used a 1080p screen

Come back when you have used both for a few months.

 

[Closingracer]

Come back when you have used both for a few months.

Don’t need to waste $750 to figure out they crapped out with a below 1080p screen. It’s 2019 now.

 

[I7guy]

Don’t need to waste $750 to figure out they crapped out with a below 1080p screen. It’s 2019 now.

I guess if one is an oled elitist lcd doesn’t cut it.

 

[Closingracer]

I guess if one is an oled elitist lcd doesn’t cut it.

Oled elitist? Na if the LCD panel was 1080p we wouldn’t have this conversation. Heck I’m going to get an iPad Pro 11 over a Samsung Galaxy tab S4.

 

[I7guy]

Oled elitist? Na if the LCD panel was 1080p we wouldn’t have this conversation. Heck I’m going to get an iPad Pro 11 over a Samsung Galaxy tab S4.

IMO, there is nothing wrong with the lcd in the xr. For all of the grousing about it, it’s part of the mid-tier lineup and unless one is a spec snob the xr fills a gap in the lineup. The xr may not be for everybody but Apple did a good job with it.

 

[Closingracer]

IMO, there is nothing wrong with the lcd in the xr. For all of the grousing about it, it’s part of the mid-tier lineup and unless one is a spec snob the xr fills a gap in the lineup. The xr may not be for everybody but Apple did a good job with it.

If they added a 1080p screen then sure . They didn’t which makes spending $750 more buying the brand name

 

[Cladster]

If they added a 1080p screen then sure . They didn’t which makes spending $750 more buying the brand name

I would rather use a xr with v2 fid than a x with v1 fid

 

[Closingracer]

I would rather use a xr with v2 fid than a x with v1 fid

Ok? V1 works fine? The XR is an overpriced iPhone at $750. I’m getting emails almost on the daily from Apple suggesting I get a XR for $500 with trade in and now it’s going to $18.99 a month if you trade in an iPhone 7 . They are obviously looking for people to buy the new XR.


I also would rather spend $1,000 on a XS with V2 then save $300 some odd for a XR. If price matters then I would get a X over a XR. I am stuck with the Apple ecosystem for now with my AirPods and watch but I am not going to buy a substandard phone because it has the Apple logo on it. I would actually just get a 8 plus over the XR

 

[MacLappy]

Apple did cheap out and should of used a 1080p screen

Here is why it is not feasible to use a 1080p screen.

Adopting the new form factor, the iPhone XR and the iPhone XS Max were given the same base coordinates of all drawings which are specified in points. Points are abstract units that only make sense in a mathematical coordinated space. This is the reason why the XR is able to have the same amount of information displayed as the XS Max. This special unit(points) is expressed as 414 by 896. The only difference is that it is rendered at 2 x points on the XR and 3 x points on the XS max. To have a 1080p screen the XR would have to render at 3 x points, after which it has to down sample the results from 1242p to 1080p. This increase of work load means the iPhone XR will require more processor power, more ram, more energy while at the same time generating more heat for a small difference in resolution which most people would not be able to visibly perceive.

To express it in numbers on a certain “on screen” benchmark, while the iPhone XR is able to bench 58 fps the XS Max can do only 47 fps. so the difference is exactly 11 fps more, or in percentage 23%. Not taking the difference of screen technology and ram allocation into consideration we can say that the iPhone XR has a 23% headroom over the XS Max. Now this is not even considering the workload of down sampling to 1080p and all the problem that brings. Can you imagine the amount of energy saved with that kind of disparity between the 2 screen just base on resolution assuming the same content at the same fps. Which is why the iPhone XR is the current King of battery life compared to every other iPhone.

In short 1080p cost too much resources wise, yet results in no gain(perceivable visual difference) for most people.

Below, is the above said benchmark.

 

[Closingracer]

Here is why it is not feasible to use a 1080p screen.

Adopting the new form factor, the iPhone XR and the iPhone XS Max were given the same base coordinates of all drawings which are specified in points. Points are abstract units that only make sense in a mathematical coordinated space. This is the reason why the XR is able to have the same amount of information displayed as the XS Max. This special unit(points) is expressed as 414 by 896. The only difference is that it is rendered at 2 x points on the XR and 3 x points on the XS max. To have a 1080p screen the XR would have to render at 3 x points, after which it has to down sample the results from 1242p to 1080p. This increase of work load means the iPhone XR will require more processor power, more ram, more energy while at the same time generating more heat for a small difference in resolution which most people would not be able to visibly perceive.

To express it in numbers on a certain “on screen” benchmark, while the iPhone XR is able to bench 58 fps the XS Max can do only 47 fps. so the difference is exactly 11 fps more, or in percentage 23%. Not taking the difference of screen technology and ram allocation into consideration we can say that the iPhone XR has a 23% headroom over the XS Max. Now this is not even considering the workload of down sampling to 1080p and all the problem that brings. Can you imagine the amount of energy saved with that kind of disparity between the 2 screen just base on resolution assuming the same content at the same fps. Which is why the iPhone XR is the current King of battery life compared to every other iPhone.

In short 1080p cost too much resources wise, yet results in no gain(perceivable visual difference) for most people.

Below, is the above said benchmark.

Please that’s Apple biased at heart. The A11 is still the best SOC in the market even with the snapdragon 855 that will be coming out. The A12 is better then the A12. The A12 runs the XS max fine with its 1220P screen so 1080p is easily possible with its similar screen size. And the difference

 

[MacLappy]

Please that’s Apple biased at heart. The A11 is still the best SOC in the market even with the snapdragon 855 that will be coming out. The A12 is better then the A12. The A12 runs the XS max fine with its 1220P screen so 1080p is easily possible with its similar screen size. And the difference

1. We are not comparing SOC.
2. This is not siding with apple against all sensible opinion.
3. 58 fps is infinitely closer to the magical 60fps when compared to 47fps. The only reason there is a difference in fps is the difference in resolution. Hence higher resolution has an co-related resources cost.
4. It is possible to run 1080p, just not optimal as I had expressed in my earlier post. Especially when the visual difference is negligible to most people.

I think my last post was pretty straight forward from an engineering point of view.

Why don’t you systematically explain why you feel 1080p is better since you feel so strongly about it.