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This is totally incorrect.

Forgot what happened to Kobe Bryant when he thought all she wanted was a good time?

Forgot what happened to Kobe Bryant when he thought all she wanted was a good time?

Google Derrick rose and look under news. It's pretty awful.

Both are attractive men.

If there's one thing you should know, and anyone else for that matter, you get what you give.

I have no idea who these people are but am a bit astounded that two examples are enough for you to prove or disapprove anything. That's not really very convincing to me, but then again, I am not seeking conviction. I am sure there are plenty of counter examples. Choose to believe whatever works best for you and you will find reports to support whatever thesis you wish to emphasize or undermine.
 
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I have no idea who these people are but am a bit astounded that two examples are enough for you to prove or disapprove anything. That's not really very convincing to me, but then again, I am not seeking conviction. I am sure there are plenty of counter examples. Choose to believe whatever works best for you and you will find reports to support whatever thesis you wish to undermine.

What about tiger woods and all the gifts he gives to his women?

Including his wife.

Nothing is free bud.
 
I am no longer certain you understood what I said... I thought we were discussing sugar daddies.. now you list people who are in actual relationships...

Tiger woods and his 10,000 mistresses are certainly not in real relationships...
 
What is your point pertaining to the topic of your own thread? You went from sugar daddies to broken relationships and now list x number of affairs some celebrity had. It's getting very wishy washy. Please make a concise point.

Until you make yours clear I can't rebuttle it...I've just been agreeing or disagreeing with your points.

They're very similar in nature tiger woods and his women.
 
Tiger woods and his 10,000 mistresses are certainly not in real relationships...

Seeing that he only just broke up with Lindsay Vonn a few months ago, I call bollocks on this claim.

Not that gossip is what MacRumours should be about, but source your claim, because it, like this entire thread, is bollocks and should be Wastelanded.

BL.
 
Until you make yours clear I can't rebuttle it...I've just been agreeing or disagreeing with your points.

They're very similar in nature tiger woods and his women.

I don't know how I can.

I made my point clear by stating my reasoning as to why I thought it was unlikely for a thirty-something year old attractive rich man wanting to become a sugar daddy, unless money was the only thing going for him. You concluded that my statement is incorrect and listed two broken relationships and Tyger Woods having ten-thousand affairs to disprove my point. I don't know how that has anything to do with what I said because it doesn't relate to what I stated, nor does it relate to your initial question regarding sugar daddies which is why I asked for you to make a concise point as to what it is precisely that you wish to state because there's no clear correlation between what I said and your responses. Since you quoted me, I assumed you meant to address my points.
 
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Seeing that he only just broke up with Lindsay Vonn a few months ago, I call bollocks on this claim.

Not that gossip is what MacRumours should be about, but source your claim, because it, like this entire thread, is bollocks and should be Wastelanded.

BL.

You didn't hear about the cheating scandal? It was literally all over the news and still is if you just use google.

Basically, what the other guy was trying to say there are plenty of pretty women who just want to hook up with hot guys.

My point was then why does tiger woods pay his 10,000 mistresses with gifts if he could get it for free? He's an attractive guy.

Still no answer.
 
I don't know how I can.

I made my point clear by stating my reasoning as to why I thought it was unlikely for a thirty-something year old attractive rich man wanting to become a sugar daddy, unless money was the only thing going for him. You concluded that my statement is incorrect and listed two broken relationships and Tyger Woods having ten-thousand affairs to disprove my point. I don't know how that has anything to do with what I said because it doesn't relate to what I stated, nor does it relate to your initial question regarding sugar daddies which is why I asked for you to make a concise point as to what it is precisely that you wish to state because there's no clear correlation between what I said and your responses. Since you quoted me, I assumed you meant to address my points.

That's where you're wrong.

Because if hot girls just wanted to hook up why would tiger woods have to give them gifts?

He's handsome like you said they'd have to be.
 
You didn't hear about the cheating scandal? It was literally all over the news and still is if you just use google.

Basically, what the other guy was trying to say there are plenty of pretty women who just want to hook up with hot guys.

My point was then why does tiger woods pay his 10,000 mistresses with gifts if he could get it for free? He's an attractive guy.

Still no answer.

Still no answer? lol. What does this have to do with sugar daddies? I said you don't have to "buy" attractive women if you have more going for yourself than money. Can you spot the difference? You're shifting from a very specific question (sugar daddies/ sugar babes) to a broad, general discussion on the nature of relationships and affairs. If you need to mislead and shift the topic into something else in order to win an argument, then please do so, but definitely not with me.
 
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Still no answer? lol. What does this have to do with sugar daddies? I said you don't have to "buy" attractive women if you have more going for yourself than money. Can you spot the difference? You're shifting from a very specific question (sugar daddies/ sugar babes) to a broad, general discussion on the nature of relationships and affairs. If you need to mislead and shift the topic into something else in order to win an argument, then please do so, but definitely not with me.

You still aren't understanding. It's the same thing with tiger woods and him giving gifts.

You don't seem to understand that he's giving gifts and cash to these women. Just google it like me and you will understand my point.

And he's handsome too.

Also what about him giving them money to keep it under wrap?

That's an important detail. Obviously they just want his money anyone can see that!!
 
You still aren't understanding. It's the same thing with tiger woods and him giving gifts.

You don't seem to understand that he's giving gifts and cash to these women. Just google it like me and you will understand my point.

And he's handsome too.

Also what about him giving them money to keep it under wrap?

That's an important detail. Obviously they just want his money anyone can see that!!

Sugary daddy/sugar babe is a formal agreement, a contract between two parties. It's a business relationship where services are paid for.

Do you understand what gifts mean? If he gives them gifts and money, then that does not conclude that he is paying them for whatever it is he and his partner have.

Like you said yourself; you consider Tyger Woods attractive and handsome. He is not only rich; he might have a lot going for him that we know nothing about, unless you have been one of his sugar babes yourself. Obvious things that attract superficial women and men are, other than money, fame/success, power, character, looks, prestige/status. All of that is deemed attractive to a lot of people. That, however, has nothing to do with anyone being a sugar daddy or sugar babe.

You seem to be confusing too many things here and are completely shifting away from your own topic and on top of that you make your claims based on assumptions to suit your line of argument. That's not very engaging to the grey matter. It's like asking for a steak, getting a steak, not liking the taste of it and then stating that you never asked for a steak but for a soup, a salad, and a desert instead.
 
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Sugary daddy/sugar babe is a formal agreement, a contract between two parties. It's a business relationship where services are paid for.

Do you understand what gifts mean? If he gives them gifts and money, then that does not conclude that he is paying them for whatever it is he and his partner have.

Like you said yourself; you consider Tyger Woods attractive and handsome. He is not only rich; he might have a lot going for him that we know nothing about, unless you have been one of his sugar babes yourself. Obvious things that attract superficial women and men are, other than money, fame/success, power, character, looks, prestige/status. All of that is deemed attractive to a lot of people. That, however, has nothing to do with anyone being a sugar daddy or sugar babe.

You seem to be confusing too many things here and are completely shifting away from your own topic and on top of that you make your claims based on assumptions to suit your line of argument. That's not very engaging to the grey matter. It's like asking for a steak, getting a steak, not liking the taste of it and then stating that you never asked for a steak but for a soup, a salad, and a desert instead.


This is incorrect. It's the exact same thing.

Answer this:

Why did the girls threaten to snitch to the media unless they got money?

He was forced to give money to keep it under wraps.

You're 100% wrong in thinking it was just a "gift"
 
This is incorrect. It's the exact same thing.

Answer this:

Why did the girls threaten to snitch to the media unless they got money?

He was forced to give money to keep it under wraps.

You're 100% wrong in thinking it was just a "gift"

What? Where did "I" say it was a gift? YOU said Woods gave them gifts! For crying out loud, don't even try putting words into my mouth and stick to what you say. Thank you.

Did the 10.000 women threaten? If not all 10.000, how big was the percentage of those 10.000? In percentages. Can be an approximation.
 
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What? Where did "I" say it was a gift? YOU said Woods gave them gifts! For crying out loud, don't even try putting words into my mouth and stick to what you say. Thank you.

Did the 10.000 women threaten? If not all 10.000 how big was the percentage of those 10.000? In percentages. Can be an approximation.

Then what about Charlie sheen?

How do you explain that???
 
You still aren't understanding. It's the same thing with tiger woods and him giving gifts.

You don't seem to understand that he's giving gifts and cash to these women. Just google it like me and you will understand my point.

And he's handsome too.

Also what about him giving them money to keep it under wrap?

That's an important detail. Obviously they just want his money anyone can see that!!

This is the verbal equivalent of this:

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This thread is really stacking up the replies and I've not read them all.

I know of one real life case of a sugar daddy, through a casual friend, his sister to be exact. I never caught the sugar daddy's exact age, but my impression is that he is an older man say 50s, wealthy, married, and wants to taste some fresh fruit. Sorry @Scepticalscribe not said to set you off, lol, but that description paints an appropriate picture.

Why does any person, male or female, pick a substantially younger partner? Maybe to relive their own youth, or to sexually experience a new, fresh faced and exuberant young mind and body. It goes both ways, Sugar Daddies and Mommas (also called cougars, a relative age term), may or may not involve money in the equation. We have some married friends where the woman is a little more than 10 years older than the husband. She met him when she was unhappy with her marriage to a controlling husband. I can't say she intentionally targeted younger men, but when one fell in her sights, the sparks flew. :)

Anyway, in the sugar baby case I'm familiar with, he (the wealthy man) may or may not have wanted to give up his wife, may not have considered it as practical to do. I presume the sugar baby wanted to get married, but since the man could not give this to her, instead he made the relationship worth it, by buying her a house and giving her expensive gifts. I'm not sure how long the relationship lasted, but my impression was long term, 10 years or longer.

Including the real case, but speaking in general terms, I imagine the woman (the sugar baby in this example) wants a relationship, enters into this relationship because she likes the man, whether it's because he's charming, and possibly attractive, and either hopes to get married, or just have some fun, but the substantial lure is wealth, having a relationship with wealth, taking a shower in wealth for some period of time.

Sadly my impression is that a male would be more likely than a female to enter a relationship like this as the sugar baby and may not be put off by elusive marriage prospects. "More likely" is my qualifier to not label all men in this fashion. As women in general become powerful in society, a process that has been written about and reported on, I suspect the % of male sugar babies will increase substantially. :)

On the male side I personally know of the equivalent of a male sugar baby, who has spent his life establishing relationships with wealthy women, marrying them, spending substantial portions of their wealth until the money runs out or the relationship crashes and then it's time to move on to the next score. And there have been 2or 3, all had money. I think it runs in the family, lol because he has a young nephew in his 20s who has done the same thing, been attracted and married to one girl who's parents have money. Sure she's a nice attractive girl, and maybe money had nothing to do with it, but he's not a stand on his own two feet kind of guy, and never went to college, yet lives in a house that her Grandmother bought them, so I can't help but believe that wealth made this girl ever so more attractive. :)
 
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This thread is really stacking up the replies and I've not read them all.

I know of one real life case of a sugar daddy, through a casual friend, his sister to be exact. I never caught the sugar daddy's exact age, but my impression is that he is an older man say 50s, wealthy, married, and wants to taste some fresh fruit. Sorry @Scepticalscribe not said to set you off, lol, but that description paints an appropriate picture.

Why does any person, male or female, pick a substantially younger partner? Maybe to relive their own youth, or to sexually experience a new, fresh faced and exuberant young mind and body. It goes both ways, Sugar Daddies and Mommas (also called cougars, a relative age term), may or may not involve money in the equation. We have some married friends where the woman is a little more than 10 years older than the husband. She met him when she was unhappy with her marriage to a controlling husband. I can't say she intentionally targeted younger men, but when one fell in her sights, the sparks flew. :)

Anyway, in the sugar baby case I'm familiar with, he (the wealthy man) may or may not have wanted to give up his wife, may not have considered it as practical to do. I presume the sugar baby wanted to get married, but since the man could not give this to her, instead he made the relationship worth it, by buying her a house and giving her expensive gifts. I'm not sure how long the relationship lasted, but my impression was long term, 10 years or longer.

Including the real case, but speaking in general terms, I imagine the woman (the sugar baby in this example) wants a relationship, enters into this relationship because she likes the man, whether it's because he's charming, and possibly attractive, and either hopes to get married, or just have some fun, but the substantial lure is wealth, having a relationship with wealth, taking a shower in wealth for some period of time.

Sadly my impression is that a male would be more likely than a female to enter a relationship like this as the sugar baby and may not be put off by elusive marriage prospects. "More likely" is my qualifier to not label all men in this fashion. As women in general become powerful in society, a process that has been written about and reported on, I suspect the % of male sugar babies will increase substantially. :)

On the male side I personally know of the equivalent of a male sugar baby, who has spent his life establishing relationships with wealthy women, marrying them, spending substantial portions of their wealth until the money runs out or the relationship crashes and then it's time to move on to the next score. And there have been 2or 3, all had money. I think it runs in the family, lol because he has a young nephew in his 20s who has done the same thing, been attracted and married to one girl who's parents have money. Sure she's a nice attractive girl, and maybe money had nothing to do with it, but he's not a stand on his own two feet kind of guy, and never went to college, yet lives in a house that her Grandmother bought them, so I can't help but believe that wealth made this girl ever so more attractive. :)

Ah, no, @Huntn; in fairness, I don't think that you are the person who is "setting me off" here……….that honour goes to the OP, posting yet another surreal and bizarre thread with some of the oddest set of values and ideals by which to live a life that I have seen in the First World.

What bothers me about the thread is not just the deplorable - and obvious crudity - of the world of 'sugar daddies' and 'sugar babies', or even that this should be viewed as some sort of an ideal template for relationships, or transactional encounters with a sexual element - but that the transactional sense is deliberately denied and instead, delusional nonsense about love is indulged.

Transactional relationships are very different from ones which have grown, or evolved naturally. I'm not saying that love is impossible in such situations, but - given power imbalances, subliminal mutual contempt and resentment, and feelings of 'ownership' resulting from the notion of having 'bought' something, I'd say that it would be a lot less likely that one might find it in such a setting.
 
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I don't mind giving a girl money and gifts but what is this love business all about?

Apparently there are sugar babies who do end up falling in love.

That parts kind of befuddling....
I think you will find you need to be older than 18 to qualify as a sugar daddy.
 
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