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Has Apple lost its cool to Samsung?

They lost something to Samsung, that's for sure. What I cannot say, but get this: My girlfriends' mom has a MacBook Pro, iPad, and no smartphone. She's considering the S Mini, because (in her words) "I heard the iPhone isn't a good phone."

WTF? :confused:

Apple lost something, somewhere. They should figure out what and get it back.
 
If Nokia phones ran Android and Nokia stopped doing AT&T exclusives, their phones would probably be a lot more popular.
 
thejadedmonkey said:
They lost something to Samsung, that's for sure. What I cannot say, but get this: My girlfriends' mom has a MacBook Pro, iPad, and no smartphone. She's considering the S Mini, because (in her words) "I heard the iPhone isn't a good phone."

WTF? :confused:

Apple lost something, somewhere. They should figure out what and get it back.
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My mum said virtually the same thing when she got the S3. She has an iPhone 4 but said that the iPhone wasn't any good anymore.
 
JoeG4 said:
If Nokia phones ran Android and Nokia stopped doing AT&T exclusives, their phones would probably be a lot more popular.
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I have a Nokia phone on VZW, Its not so much as they wanted to do exclusives all the time, its that VZW didn't want windows phones. I do think Nokia went the exclusive route a number of times, but their options were limited.

If you look at european sales, Nokia is doing much better over there then the US.
 
I live in a country that is considered both the texting and selfie capital of the world. From my point of view, it seems 40/40 between Apple and Samsung with the other 20% going to the all others segment. We love gadgets esp cell phones. When I visited SoCal again last year, it still seems more iPhone than anything else. I think I started seeing an iPhone dominance by 2010-2011 before I left Cali.

Personally who cares what is cool or not? Most people around you in public wouldn't care what phone you are using. They could be texting, playing games, or web browsing on their iPhone or giant Samsung phone to even notice what cool phone you have. Whatever works for you. I couldn't care less for either Apple or Samsung. But in fairness, they do ALOT of things RIGHT even if their philosophies can be so different and polarizing for certain people.

Apple lost its touch with clever ads. Apple didn't lose its cool to Samsung. They lost it on their own. Losing Steve Jobs and canning Scott Forstall was a big loss. I don't think SJ would ever had approved iOS7's look from Jony Ive if he was still around. SJ and Forstall would debate over the tiniest pixel. And Google started to become innovative and forward thinking with their mobile OS. Samsung is doing a "Sega" about 20 years ago hiring a better marketing agency while Apple being like the tight-fisted, conservative, old fashioned Nintendo of this generation. Getting slow, old, and boring.

Every company loses its luster. Nothing is forever. Every empire crumbles. Look at IBM, Nintendo, Sega, Sony, Nokia, BlackBerry, etc. Everything that was once cool becomes old and boring. Fickle industry. That's tech. It always evolves. No standing still. Prob is Apple didn't want to evolve with it as fast. They stayed still. Eventually the wheels start to come off.

Was watching Pacquiao yesterday and came to realize he just isn't as good as before. Older, wiser, but slower and not as explosive. Same can be said about Kobe Bryant in the NBA. It is LeBron's time now. Soon it will be Durant. Back then, it was cool to own a Sony TV. Now everybody buys Samsung or LG TV's. Everybody has their time to shine in the spotlight before fading away like a falling star. It sucks but that's life. There is always an ending. Unless you plan to have a museum of junk, gadgets are disposable. They all get broken and replaced just like the companies that make them.
 
JoeG4 said:
If Nokia phones ran Android and Nokia stopped doing AT&T exclusives, their phones would probably be a lot more popular.
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Exactly! Imagine a Nokia 808, with an up-to-date CPU and screen, running Android... it'd be a KILLER.
 
This topic was not about the products being "cool" in the eye of the masses. It is about the feel of the company and the products. About how Apple was the company with nike+ and the new things. The things you wanted, but unaware of it. Samsung knew you wanted the bigger screen. Apple totally slept for years. That is the discussion, without denying that Apple is still the king of everyday, practical use.
 
maflynn said:
I have a Nokia phone on VZW, Its not so much as they wanted to do exclusives all the time, its that VZW didn't want windows phones. I do think Nokia went the exclusive route a number of times, but their options were limited.

If you look at european sales, Nokia is doing much better over there then the US.
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Oh trust me it was. I remember when the Lumia 800 came out, the better 900 was AT&T exclusive. IIRC, none of their phones ever worked on T-Mobile's AWS. The same was also true about the iPhone, but Apple never really needed other companies anyway.
 
Shoot I'll go one further, if Nokia stopped doing AT&T exclusives. Period. Their sales would probably be better lol. That means that customers on T-Mobile, Sprint, Verizon, and every other MVNO won't be able to use it.. well maybe T-Mobile users, if they pay full price and risk having very slow internet service.

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/22/atandt-will-have-have-exclusive-on-nokia-1520-in-the-us/

http://www.phonearena.com/news/At-2...the-Nokia-Lumia-1020-is-too-expensive_id45236

http://www.cnet.com/news/how-nokia-hobbled-itself-with-an-at-t-exclusive-lumia-920/

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2426085,00.asp

They finally saw the light, the Icon is a Verizon exclusive.. *rolls eyes*

http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/19/nokia-lumia-icon-review/
 
This is really a debate between style vs substance.
I think Apple is still cooler. They are all style. If you are self-conscious about everything like design or how you get perceived, get iPhone. If you like a simple OS to use with good app catalog, use iPhone.

But Samsung is more practical. Android has the substance. More depth. If it rains or we go swimming, S5 gives me something less to be worried about if it gets soaked. And I live in a country where it rains more than Seattle. Removable batteries tends to last shorter than enclosed batteries, but when time is up, easy to replace them. Buy 7 spare batteries and it would still be cheaper than going through an $80 service charge replacing ONE battery for iPhones. Has FM radio and not just online radio apps which is great for prepaid country not always on an expensive data plan. A 64 GB iPhone 5s cost $399 subsidized. A 64 GB microSD goes for $60! No reliance on iTunes. Less ways of locking us down. If it breaks, easy to fix and replace. People use Flip Covers anyway to hide the design in most times.

KitKat also seems to make S5 much smoother than S4. People don't really know this but Jelly Bean 4.2 was a bad build. Check the Nexus 7 (2012) and Galaxy Nexus owners who complained updating from 4.1 to 4.2. S4 was released with that software initially and 4.2 lost some of the Butter from 4.1. KitKat 4.4 seems to regain it all back.

I generally don't find Apple or Samsung cool. I think HTC makes cooler phones. I think Asus thinks more out of the box with their dual booting hybrids. Samsung design is bland and too much. Apple's design and iOS has already gotten stale. LG I still find second rate and Samsung's understudy. Sony is a has-been.

HTC, Motorola, Asus, Oppo, Huawei, O+, and Xiaomi. Those are the type of companies I watch more.
 
I think Apple may have lost some of its "cool", but not to Samsung. As the reviewer on The Verge said for the S5 "Samsung's phones are still commodities, made to be sold but not loved." Samsung have won popularity through throwing money at features and marketing but I still think they fail to engage the user on an emotional level.

We could sit and argue whether aesthetics are subjective or objective but you cannot deny that Apple takes a much more considered approach to its products both in terms of design and build. The fact problems arise during the manufacturing process is more an undesirable side effect of success (rushing units through to meet demand) than an engineering flaw and this is one of the bones that the Anti-Apple crowd like to run with.

As far as being "stale" goes, I'm not sure how everyone expects the wheel to be reinvented yet again. Reports show the smartphone market is starting to saturate. The convergence of devices (phone, media, camera, PDA etc) and progressive "minimalismisation" (I think I just made that word up) of phones mean that these big tech companies are designing themselves into a corner. Samsung is starting to show its desperation to differentiate by throwing numerous features at each device that regularly get shot down as gimmicks by reviewers and after the initial honeymoon period are largely forgotten by users.

All these points track back to the crack addict nature of tech enthusiasts like us who are constantly demanding more every year. Apple has only lost some of it's cool because we need exponentially more each year to keep us satisfied and we shoot them down for not innovating and giving us something we don't know we need yet. Yes, I am as guilty as anyone else and spend way too much time drooling over expensive shiny things but do we really need each manufacturer to pull out a groundbreaking device EVERY year? Do we need regular revolutionary entries into new product categories when the monolithic slabs in our pockets take on more and more features to make many other devices in our lives obsolete? As I am sure many people have said, the advancement of the smartphone will now always be incremental - improved camera, more RAM, more GBs etc. Wearables are the "next big thing" and TV/home entertainment will follow that.

As far as "coolness" goes in terms of brand, my opinion is:
Apple - cool if ubiquity can be cool
MS - trying way to hard to be cool
Google/Android/Nexus - geek chic
Sony/Samsung - technologically great but no emotion
Nokia - underdog cool
HTC - cool but nobody knows it
 
maflynn said:
Having another company produce a great product does in no way infer that Apple lost its cool, it just means that another company produced a great product pure and simple.

I will say that Apple cannot sit on the sidelines too much longer, with other companies producing wearables, updates to their video streaming services and other products like google glass that seem to be really pushing the boundaries.

I mean if they're concept of innovation is to give us a thinner iPhone then that will be disappointing.

Tim Cook has been promising that apple will be rolling out some pretty innovative products these past two years and with the exception of the Mac Pro there hasn't been much new stuff coming from them
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Agreed. Apple has been resting on their laurels for the past couple of years.
 
Black Magic said:
The Samsung Gear was universally slammed so not much else to be said there.
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Actually, especially since it got updated to be more useful, the Samsung Gear been been praised by most users.

Ditto for the Gear Fit, after it got portrait mode and its step counting was fixed.

The trouble is, what goes out first is often reported forever, like a bad internet echo.
 
I don't think they did with Samsung but the LG G2 has got some really cool innovative features that I have not seen on other devices.
 
As Apple grows in marketshare, across it's full line, I think it will gain a reputation similar to Samsung. More and more devices bring both praise and criticism from all angles. Just my opinion :)
 
Nabooly said:
As Apple grows in marketshare, across it's full line, I think it will gain a reputation similar to Samsung. More and more devices bring both praise and criticism from all angles. Just my opinion :)
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Isn't Apple's marketshare declining worldwide?
Just curious, I think I have read this not long ago.
 
Apple continues to sell more iPhones that any other OEM sells of their best selling devices.

Talk to me when Samsung sells more Galaxy S5's than Apple sells iPhone 6's.

*spoiler*

It won't happen. Even in "incremental" years, Apple blows the doors off any other OEM in terms of sales.

Are there other great phones out there? Heck ya there are - the Lumia line, HTC One (M8), LG G2 Flex, Nexus 5, Note 3 etc....but none come anywhere near the iPhone in terms of popularity.

Heck the "flop" iPhone 5C outsold the Galaxy S4 in the US Q4 2013....and its been talked about as being a FAILURE.

That tells you all you need to know. At the end of 2013, Apple's failures sell more than Samsung's successes.

I just hate Samsung dominates the Android space like it does. There are other great phones out there that have trouble selling because of the marketing machine Samsung has. I still feel like the GS4 was the third best Android phone of 2013 (HTC One, Nexus 5).....and I didn't ever use the Moto X, which I've heard people rave about.

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Fireblade said:
Isn't Apple's marketshare declining worldwide?
Just curious, I think I have read this not long ago.
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Yes - but marketshare isn't the whole story.

Apple sells 2 devices (technically 3 if you count the old 4S that's still available but not actively marketed).

Samsung sells how many Galaxy S variants? Plus the Note. Plus their cheap smart phones.....

Then you have the iOS vs Android market share numbers. Dozens of OEMs producing hundreds of different phones, against 2 (again, 3 if you count the hanger on 4S).

Look at individual phone sales. Nothing comes close to the iPhone. Samsung thought they'd sell 100 million Galaxy S4s.....have they even hit 65 million a year after its release?

Meanwhile, Apple sells half that in a quarter. The 4S is, I believe the best selling smartphone in history (over the life of the phone) at something like 130 million sales. Samsung doesn't have a phone that's anywhere near it.

The question here is, which phone is cooler (more popular) the iPhone of the Galaxy phone (heck, throw the Note in as well). The answer is overwhelmingly, the iPhone. Still. And it isn't close.

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maflynn said:
Having another company produce a great product does in no way infer that Apple lost its cool, it just means that another company produced a great product pure and simple.

I will say that Apple cannot sit on the sidelines too much longer, with other companies producing wearables, updates to their video streaming services and other products like google glass that seem to be really pushing the boundaries.

I mean if they're concept of innovation is to give us a thinner iPhone then that will be disappointing.

Tim Cook has been promising that apple will be rolling out some pretty innovative products these past two years and with the exception of the Mac Pro there hasn't been much new stuff coming from them
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Come on maflynn, you should know better.

64-bit A7 and TouchID are resting on laurels? And now we see other devices rush to throw in fingerprint sensors and 64-bit chips?

Not saying Apple was "first". But I find it funny that a company can be called "lazy", yet as soon as they release something new, other companies immediately do the same.

TouchID changes my experience with my iPhone. I think its pretty damn great. And it'll only get better. And the 64-bit A7 isn't utilized right now, but it undoubtedly is the future. Just building the framework here. I'd call this stuff pretty innovative.

2014 is young - while I wish Apple would switch up their timetables (I think its ridiculous they release everything at the end of the year), we still have a long way to go. And Cook made mention of new product categories THIS YEAR.

I prefer Apple to get the iWatch right rather than rush out a half-baked product like the Gear, which doesn't even remotely seem innovative to me. I don't want a phone on my wrist. I want a companion device that enhances my mobile computing needs. Maybe I'm unique here, but I'm hoping Apple doesn't just give us a health-tracking, notification giving wrist device. I want NFC, biometric sensors and features that enhance security and mobile payments as well as provide notifications.

Forget the camera and phone capabilities....
 
jrswizzle said:
Apple continues to sell more iPhones that any other OEM sells of their best selling devices.

Talk to me when Samsung sells more Galaxy S5's than Apple sells iPhone 6's.

*spoiler*

It won't happen. Even in "incremental" years, Apple blows the doors off any other OEM in terms of sales.

Are there other great phones out there? Heck ya there are - the Lumia line, HTC One (M8), LG G2 Flex, Nexus 5, Note 3 etc....but none come anywhere near the iPhone in terms of popularity.

Heck the "flop" iPhone 5C outsold the Galaxy S4 in the US Q4 2013....and its been talked about as being a FAILURE.

That tells you all you need to know. At the end of 2013, Apple's failures sell more than Samsung's successes.

I just hate Samsung dominates the Android space like it does. There are other great phones out there that have trouble selling because of the marketing machine Samsung has. I still feel like the GS4 was the third best Android phone of 2013 (HTC One, Nexus 5).....and I didn't ever use the Moto X, which I've heard people rave about.

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Yes - but marketshare isn't the whole story.

Apple sells 2 devices (technically 3 if you count the old 4S that's still available but not actively marketed).

Samsung sells how many Galaxy S variants? Plus the Note. Plus their cheap smart phones.....

Then you have the iOS vs Android market share numbers. Dozens of OEMs producing hundreds of different phones, against 2 (again, 3 if you count the hanger on 4S).

Look at individual phone sales. Nothing comes close to the iPhone. Samsung thought they'd sell 100 million Galaxy S4s.....have they even hit 65 million a year after its release?

Meanwhile, Apple sells half that in a quarter. The 4S is, I believe the best selling smartphone in history (over the life of the phone) at something like 130 million sales. Samsung doesn't have a phone that's anywhere near it.

The question here is, which phone is cooler (more popular) the iPhone of the Galaxy phone (heck, throw the Note in as well). The answer is overwhelmingly, the iPhone. Still. And it isn't close.

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Come on maflynn, you should know better.

64-bit A7 and TouchID are resting on laurels? And now we see other devices rush to throw in fingerprint sensors and 64-bit chips?

Not saying Apple was "first". But I find it funny that a company can be called "lazy", yet as soon as they release something new, other companies immediately do the same.

TouchID changes my experience with my iPhone. I think its pretty damn great. And it'll only get better. And the 64-bit A7 isn't utilized right now, but it undoubtedly is the future. Just building the framework here. I'd call this stuff pretty innovative.

2014 is young - while I wish Apple would switch up their timetables (I think its ridiculous they release everything at the end of the year), we still have a long way to go. And Cook made mention of new product categories THIS YEAR.

I prefer Apple to get the iWatch right rather than rush out a half-baked product like the Gear, which doesn't even remotely seem innovative to me. I don't want a phone on my wrist. I want a companion device that enhances my mobile computing needs. Maybe I'm unique here, but I'm hoping Apple doesn't just give us a health-tracking, notification giving wrist device. I want NFC, biometric sensors and features that enhance security and mobile payments as well as provide notifications.

Forget the camera and phone capabilities....
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Good post! Apple is the leader in the tablet and smartphone market and they are dictating the direction. Like you said, 64bit is the new hotness and now everyone is scrambling to add that check mark. Apple does not care about market share, they care about profits and quality. Quality is a big driver in sales too. Samsung doesn't care about that though and they have never been known for that. They invest more in marketing to drive sales versus creating a stellar product which would drive even more sales.

Samsung could easily sell more phones if the focused shifted to quality. Drop the cheap plastic and go metal, sales will jump if done right. Think about how Apple does it. They think everything through down to the small details to enhance the user experience. Samsung doesn't care about user experience. It shows too. They added a heart rate sensor to a phone? What audience are they targeting? Teens won't really be using it I imagine. Heck, the same heart rate sensing function can be done on other phones including the iPhone using the camera plus a third party app and you get the same results. I bet money that you will not see that sensor in the Note 4 or the S6. Let's not get into interface design inconsistencies. The average Joe doesn't see this or do research. They just see the funny commercials on TV that belittle you for using a better product and they don't want to be belittled. So damn sad.

To your last comment though, I do want a better camera and better phone capabilities. Build in SnapChat like features into iMessage and make the camera take better snaps would be huge pluses for me. Enhance my experience Apple, please!
 
jrswizzle said:
Apple continues to sell more iPhones that any other OEM sells of their best selling devices.

Talk to me when Samsung sells more Galaxy S5's than Apple sells iPhone 6's.

*spoiler*

It won't happen. Even in "incremental" years, Apple blows the doors off any other OEM in terms of sales.

Are there other great phones out there? Heck ya there are - the Lumia line, HTC One (M8), LG G2 Flex, Nexus 5, Note 3 etc....but none come anywhere near the iPhone in terms of popularity.

Heck the "flop" iPhone 5C outsold the Galaxy S4 in the US Q4 2013....and its been talked about as being a FAILURE.

That tells you all you need to know. At the end of 2013, Apple's failures sell more than Samsung's successes.

I just hate Samsung dominates the Android space like it does. There are other great phones out there that have trouble selling because of the marketing machine Samsung has. I still feel like the GS4 was the third best Android phone of 2013 (HTC One, Nexus 5).....and I didn't ever use the Moto X, which I've heard people rave about.
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And there's your issue. You hate Samsung. Who really cars about phone sales. Apple has three phones for sale. A new o e and two older ones. There is more choice with Android and android is killing Apple in market share which again, who really cares.

Yes - but marketshare isn't the whole story.

Apple sells 2 devices (technically 3 if you count the old 4S that's still available but not actively marketed).

Samsung sells how many Galaxy S variants? Plus the Note. Plus their cheap smart phones.....

Then you have the iOS vs Android market share numbers. Dozens of OEMs producing hundreds of different phones, against 2 (again, 3 if you count the hanger on 4S).

Look at individual phone sales. Nothing comes close to the iPhone. Samsung thought they'd sell 100 million Galaxy S4s.....have they even hit 65 million a year after its release?

Meanwhile, Apple sells half that in a quarter. The 4S is, I believe the best selling smartphone in history (over the life of the phone) at something like 130 million sales. Samsung doesn't have a phone that's anywhere near it.

The question here is, which phone is cooler (more popular) the iPhone of the Galaxy phone (heck, throw the Note in as well). The answer is overwhelmingly, the iPhone. Still. And it isn't close....
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And your first paragraph is why no Android phone will outsell the iPhone so there is no reason for this childish post.
Who cares how many phones which sales or who has the most market share? Buy what YOU want and be happy about it. No need for posts like this to point out meaningless things.

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Black Magic said:
Good post! Apple is the leader in the tablet and smartphone market and they are dictating the direction. Like you said, 64bit is the new hotness and now everyone is scrambling to add that check mark. Apple does not care about market share, they care about profits and quality. Quality is a big driver in sales too. Samsung doesn't care about that though and they have never been known for that. They invest more in marketing to drive sales versus creating a stellar product which would drive even more sales.

Samsung could easily sell more phones if the focused shifted to quality. Drop the cheap plastic and go metal, sales will jump if done right. Think about how Apple does it. They think everything through down to the small details to enhance the user experience. Samsung doesn't care about user experience. It shows too. They added a heart rate sensor to a phone? What audience are they targeting? Teens won't really be using it I imagine. Heck, the same heart rate sensing function can be done on other phones including the iPhone using the camera plus a third party app and you get the same results. I bet money that you will not see that sensor in the Note 4 or the S6. Let's not get into interface design inconsistencies. The average Joe doesn't see this or do research. They just see the funny commercials on TV that belittle you for using a better product and they don't want to be belittled. So damn sad.

To your last comment though, I do want a better camera and better phone capabilities. Build in SnapChat like features into iMessage and make the camera take better snaps would be huge pluses for me. Enhance my experience Apple, please!
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I don't agree. Not everybody likes a metal phone. I don't care for them and is why I won't buy a HTC. I prefer the plastic and the material that my Nexus 5 is made from. It has a case on it most of the time anyways but when it doesn't, I am always dropping the slippery metal phones and I don't like the feel of them.
 
Vegastouch said:
And there's your issue. You hate Samsung. Who really cars about phone sales. Apple has three phones for sale. A new o e and two older ones. There is more choice with Android and android is killing Apple in market share which again, who really cares.


And your first paragraph is why no Android phone will outsell the iPhone so there is no reason for this childish post.
Who cares how many phones which sales or who has the most market share? Buy what YOU want and be happy about it. No need for posts like this to point out meaningless things.
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Uhh I'm not telling anyone what to buy. The title of the thread is "Has Apple lost it's cool to samsung." Based on popularity (phone sales) the answer is no.

You're making this something it isn't. While I have no love for Samsung, I have nothing against Android devices.

I was simply responding to the thread title.
 
jrswizzle said:
Uhh I'm not telling anyone what to buy. The title of the thread is "Has Apple lost it's cool to samsung." Based on popularity (phone sales) the answer is no.

You're making this something it isn't. While I have no love for Samsung, I have nothing against Android devices.

I was simply responding to the thread title.
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Your argument seems fault. If "based on popularity (phone sales)" then the answer is yes since Samsung sold double compared to Apple (313.9 mil vs 153.4mil) in 2013.
https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24645514
 
khha4113 said:
Your argument seems fault. If "based on popularity (phone sales)" then the answer is yes since Samsung sold double compared to Apple (313.9 mil vs 153.4mil) in 2013.
https://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24645514
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IDC numbers can't be trusted. If you look at my first post in this thread, there is a legal document that leaked out showing how Samsung lied about the number of certain devices sold to analyst as well as investors. Criminal activity for sure. IDC was specifically mentioned as turning a blind eye to this and contributing to the issue as long as the money kept pouring in.

Market manipulation baby!
 
I think owning gadgets is no longer "cool" now. Maybe about 5-6 years ago, it was cool owning an iPhone. It was cool for me to jailbreak them. It was cool owning a touchscreen phone while most others were still typing on BlackBerries.

Now it has become the norm to have a gadget. Like having clothes on. My female cousin is a grade school teacher who only makes 1K per month. She doesn't have her own place which is normal in Asia where kids still live with their parents and help with the rent. But my cousin has an iPad and MacBook Pro.

So many people I see her holding phones of different shapes and sizes. It might catch our attention and curiosity for maybe a few seconds, but after that, back to our lives or on FB or whatever. MacBooks are far more expensive than iPhones and iPads, and it seems very common now that I really don't care who owns one.

The Android haters who compare Android to a Toyota vs Apple's Mercedes-Benz (iPhone) haven't realized it is so COMMON to have an iPhone compared to a few years ago. And your trying to impress thinking you are rich when you got the phone usually at a subsidized price of $199 or whatever. Not the full price of $700+. Getting it even at $700 smartphone isn't really cool or would impress me. A $700,000 price maybe for a sports car would. That's when I know that person has money and can go ahead and act like an aristocrat that they truly are.
 
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