Excellent post. I agree, Apple is losing it's cool on its own. They can be the sales leader, profit leader, etc, but IMO by becoming Goliath, they have lost some of what made them special.
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Has Apple lost its cool to Samsung?
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Excellent post. I agree, Apple is losing it's cool on its own. They can be the sales leader, profit leader, etc, but IMO by becoming Goliath, they have lost some of what made them special.
I have to disagree. Most of what made them special was already implemented by the release of iPhone 4. If they had just added everything that Google put in Android OS, they would just be the same as everyone else, another fish in the pond. And part of being the sales and profit leader is that they are able to do what they want, build what they want and hopefully soon drive a new market.
If they weren't still "cool" then Samsung wouldn't be targeting them in their ads. Microsoft wouldn't be attacking Apple. Worldwide, it is still probably the most recognizable phone, and look at all those people who are willing to jump to iPhone from simply a screen size increase.
On a lighter note, how did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFTbDeeNaIo get past Samsung's marketing team? I mean, in all 3 instances that guy comes off as a bit of a pedophile, smh
Apple is the establishment that they once were against, IMO. They are targeted by competitors because they are the sales leader in tablets and phones. But this doesn't make them "cool". Toyota sells a lot of Camry's too, but they aren't "cool". Excellent cars, but everyone has one. Apple makes segment leading products which are very nice, but I don't think of them as cool anymore.
I don't think Apple have lost their cool at all. Every Apple store I have seen has been heaving with people and I've had the opposite experience to you it seems. In our local Tesco store they have two stands in the technology department and the iPad and iPhone end of aisle display still seems to attract more attention when I am there and observing. The Samsung one is popular, but my perception of its attraction is different. This doesn't mean either brand is less cool and you see people using both with daily experiences.
I think people are keen to see Apple fall out of popularity, but I haven't seen a sign of it yet. People are very fickle though and it could all change. When Apple produce a rubbish phone, we'll see a change. They are yet to do that and I don't expect the iPhone 6 to put people off as it'll likely be the best selling in their brand to date.
You mean not implementing features and having a locked down OS is making Apple cool?
Seems legit..... :O
Yet people wait in line 24+hours to buy an iPhone. I'd say even with a locked down OS, apple is cool. You may not like the OS, or Apple's philosophy but you cannot knock its track record.
Most consumers don't care if iOS is in a "protected garden" vs wide open as is Android, They care about a good phone with lots of apps. Both iOS and Android have that so from a consumer perspective its less about protected vs. unprotected.
I don't understand posts like this. Too much free time?
You do realized that Apple never sold as many iPhones, as many iPads, as many Macs and software, right? The ecosystem is stronger than ever and even after Eric Shmidt stated that all apps would be Android first (in 2010 or 11) because Dev interest on Android was catching up real fast, the gap just got bigger after that.
Better apps are on iOS exclusively or iOS first.
All of those facts make your post irrelevant and wrong. Again, Apple is better than ever, but not Samsung. Their profit is coming down YoY. Was it 20%, the last quarter? That's a big change for someone that was having explosive growth.
Also, Samsung never made an original great product and still suck more than ever on Software. There's no ecosystem from them. The reaction to the S4 and now the S5 was extremely "meh". People are realizing what Samsung and their products really are, and are going (sometimes back) to the iPhone. For each iPhone costumer that leaves the platform, 7 enters the platform. This was stated a few weeks ago, by Tim himself. The S3 (internation) won't get kitkat. How's that?
Apple is stronger than ever, BUT:
A bigger screen iPhone should've been out in 2012, when it became clear that millions of premium phone buyers loved them. Those are the ones that are complaining, but to ask if Apple lost it's cool? That's not having notion of what is going around. Interest in the iPhone was never higher. They never sold as many.
Indeed you've hit the nail on the head. Most people don't know what the difference is nor do they need the option for the OS to be open. Personally I only care that the phone does all the tasks I need to and well. I don't care about open source and tinkering with a device to make it work properly.
Some see iOS as being locked down, but some of us don't really care. I'm yet to find something my iPhone can't do that others can with the need to.
This is true. Also Apple are superb at brand management, and lot of people make their purchase decisions based on their perception of the brand alone. "Apple" and "iPhone" gives an immediate sense of security and - yes - "cool", so one chooses the iPhone first regardless of specs or actual abilities of the phone.
Just look at the 8GB iPhone 5C right now going up for sale in Europe for 579 Eu - that's 800 dollars for an 8GB phone. And it will sell. Just think about that for a moment.
LOL I dont understand posts like this either...
Too much free time?
You sound like someone who hasn't owned an android phone lately. The 'extremely meh' part gives it away.
I never owned an iPhone. I have a galaxy s3 mini. You know... the phone that never got an update in 2 years but is in the 10 best sellers.
The extremely "meh" means what is really happening. The s5 is far from being the best choice for an Android costumer. It only fits the bill for a specific demographic (removable battery and sd card).
I'm sorry you bought that phone
seriously. Unfortunately android is all about buying the right phone. You certainly have the right to complain.When/if the play edition S5 comes out , it will be the best android on the market IMO. Even still the touchwiz s5 probably gets my vote as overall best at the moment.
What android phone is better? The camera on the m8 takes it out of the running IMO.
IMO 'cool' means engineering elegance. It is rare for Apple to miss this mark, and so far it is rare for Samsung to hit it. Obviously over time the companies are converging on the same solutions and quality, but while Samsung might introduce a new feature first, my money is on Apple to be the first to make it usable and enjoyable.
Also, I have to say that I like Apple's corporate image. Samsung does not seem very ethical as company to me, and that detracts from their 'cool'.
Also, I have to say that I like Apple's corporate image. Samsung does not seem very ethical as company to me, and that detracts from their 'cool'.
Typically has best overall hardware as far as android phones go.
Sd card and removable battery too.
Yes I hate touchwiz too..
Wow. I think you might be a tad uninformed. Even excepting the many years of history of Apple behaving badly.... you are aware that they have just recently been found guilty in a price fixing and collusion scheme related to ebooks here in the USA, right?
Samsung is no angel either, but very few of these huge companies become that way by doing everything above board and Apple suffers from the same lack of ethics that other corporations do. Maybe all of the news doesn't make it across the pond.
Those number is not only used by IDC but others like Forbes.
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Interesting Number, Samsung's Galaxy Note 3 Alone Approaches 50% Of All Of Apple's iPhone Sales
1a) Yes they did, I've spent over ten years as an Apple enthusiast. They've really been disappointing the last two years.
2a) Apple the king? Not hardly. Not any longer.
Now it truly is a matter of personal preference. I've used my iPhone 5 & 5S as well as my Galaxy Note 2 & 3 side by side since released. Both platforms are equal to each other. Fast, smooth, reliable, Apple has no advantage, they're both excellent.
Had they stayed focused, Apple would have a big lead by now. But they established the fact that the customers would buy the iPhone even if the upgrades were very minor so Apple just milked it for the money.
As a very long time Apple customer, it's rather sad that this is the best Apple can do.
I strongly feel that samsung devices just have technology for the sake of technology. It is not useful technology. Apple uses useful technology and then samsung will follow suit.
Interesting - that September quarter included about 2-3 weeks of new iPhone sales in the US. Less in other countries.
But I applaud the cherry picking attempt. I'll go ahead and say it - in Q4, Apple sold more than 50 million iPhones.
Essentially what that article states is that 3 months of Note 3 sales equals half of 2 weeks of new iPhone sales.
Pretty good lol....
i was going to say something like that too! Especially if Apple releases a 4.7 and 5.5 iPhones in Sept......then the thread topic will be "Has Samsung lost their cool to Apple"
I agree, but a larger screen is NOT innovation. Apple needs to start innovating again! When was the last time they truly did that?