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Has Installous been blocked? Weird Cydia uninstall problem
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That's right, and I understand that. It's a consumable and it just cost the owner cash. An app is different. I'll just end by saying that if app developers let you try the app, OR would refund your money if the app didn't work as advertised or crashed your device, then maybe there would be no need for a product such as installous.
If an app does not work, request a refund from Apple. The process is there if you choose to use it.
Just like any other purchase you make in your daily life; if you need to return a product, it's a bit of a hassle and they want to know what's wrong. The App Store is no different.
Is that to customize the keyboard? Yeah it shouldn't be too hard to do, program common algebraic symbols instead of letters, obviously leave the numbers there, if possible (im sure it is) replace the caps lock with an exponent lock so that you can enter numbers and variables in exponential form.
Like I said, I'm no programmer but I don't think it should be too complicated for someone who atleast somewhat knows what they're doing. And if people pay $1.99 or however much for those useless smilies, I'm sure theyll pay for something like a math keyboard thatll def be useful.
What if the file sharing is legal in the country you reside in? I've always wondered that. For example, in Canada you can share files so how do these arguments refute that claim? I am just wondering because I know in other countries downloading files aren't illegal.
Oh yes, the never ending moralistic battle between them that does & them that dont.
It never gets old...
It never gets old...
And all the people that are tethering for free come out to tell other people how above the law they are. Never gets old. Go ahead and steal that data! Nothing wrong with that
So one justifies the other? "I saw you litter, you have no right to tell me to stop beating my wife!"
I do the same thing except I spit the liquor I don't like back in the bottle, so I haven't really stolen anything.I totally agree! I usually go to the grocery or liquor store to buy a drink. I normally open 5 different bottles to try them to figure out which "ONE" drink was right for me. I then purchase the one I decided I liked. So it's all good!
You sure about that?
Legality is black and white, something is either legal or illegal.
Morality is subjective, theres nothing set in stone about whats moral and whats not moral.
The point is that if you have something you don't want people to steal then you have to find a way to secure it. I'm not saying that if its not secure its ok to steal, but in reality ok and not ok don't matter.
"Legal != moral" is the same as "Legal is not equal to moral".
So, yes, he is sure of that....
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So, did slavery only become immoral following laws forbidding it? Is it moral to rape a woman if you can find a country that doesn't have any legal qualms with it? What about countries where it is acceptable for men to beat their wives? Is beating one's wife there made moral?
What about the flipside? Can there be no such thing as unjust laws? Take the civil rights movement. The argument wasn't "we would just prefer different laws," but that the current system of laws permitting treating some races as sub-valued was immoral.
A better comparison would be "I saw you beating your 80-year old mother, you have no right to tell me to stop beating my wife!"
In both cases the situation should be reported to the governing authorities, which doesn't exist in the application and data theft fields (as it pertains to the iPhone JB community).
That's a good point. But the solution is then to try and persuade more people to stop tethering, but to instead just steal apps. I suspect, though, that the data charge is more of a bludgeon used to stop criticism. Do any of the software pirates have qualms with tethering? Or do they just not want to be called on their own theft?
But yes, I think your analogy was an improvement, depending how the severity you want to put on each action. The point still remains in both, though.
It seems to be the case that many of the anti-piracy advocates here are comparing stolen goods (ie, theft of physical commodities, properties, or items) to copied data. Pirating applications is not theft.I totally agree! I usually go to the grocery or liquor store to buy a drink. I normally open 5 different bottles to try them to figure out which "ONE" drink was right for me. I then purchase the one I decided I liked. So it's all good!
I am not defending or justifying the act, nor am I admitting to any sort of piracy.
As far as tethering goes, AT&T is not charging you for the data. They are charging you for the ability to tether to a laptop.
It is my opinion, as well as the opinion of users, that AT&T should not be charging for an ability that is already present on the phone. I fully respect that I should have to pay for the data that I use; if I use more than 2GB with or without tethering, I expect to pay the appropriate fee.
I don't pirate but I have very strong qualms with data theft/tethering. It is of my opinion that an application that would not be granted copyright protection because it in and of itself infringes on the copyrights of others should be obtained without having to pay.
Either way the comparison is a bit extreme. Application/Data theft come nowhere close in severity to domestic violence in my opinion.
It was a misunderstanding, Im not disagreeing, I thought your point was that legal does equal moral
When you entered into your agreement with AT&T, you agreed that the data your purchased from AT&T would be restricted to usage only on your iPhone. You also agreed that if you wanted to use that data beyond just the phone, you would pay $20/month. But for one reason or another you decided that the service was not worth what you would have to pay so you purchased an application (likely MyWi) to bypass the agreed upon pay method and get your tethering for free. If you do that, you might as well use Installous to bypass the official MyWi pay methods and get it for free too.
Not really sure. I don't generally like ad-supported apps, so I have a limited-use Lite version and the full paid version... neither has ads.
Insted of arguing right vs. wrong which is too relative, can we agree on this, the reality is that capitalism and free enterprise is about survival of the fittest. At&t used to just compete against service providers, now it also has to compete against hackers, same thing with apple, same thing with software developers. If they want to survive and stay in business, and minimize leaks, then they'll have to be able to counter hack.
Its how the world works now, even wars are fought like this, Russian/Georgian war in 08 was 70% fighting, 30% hacking each others banks and other secure locations.
Israelis supposedly hacked some new Iranian long range missiles to make them useless, basically disarmed them without firing a shot.
Its the future, no need to argue about right and wrong, either get what you need done, or get out of the way.
Its how the world works now, even wars are fought like this, Russian/Georgian war in 08 was 70% fighting, 30% hacking each others banks and other secure locations.
Israelis supposedly hacked some new Iranian long range missiles to make them useless, basically disarmed them without firing a shot.
Its the future, no need to argue about right and wrong, either get what you need done, or get out of the way.
Now it became a piracy debate thread.... did you get it from the official? I uninstalled many winterboard themes and didn't have any problems.
did you get it from the official? I uninstalled many winterboard themes and didn't have any problems.- Status