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i can tell you, it has me. The iPhone X really has made me question what they are doing. I’m usually so wanting the new version of the iPhone but this time, it’s so expensive, the notch, the face id, the fact it’s got a lower res and inferior screen to most competitors phones etc etc. It’s not the product I thought it was gonna be.
Now Apple have a huge fan base. Almost like a football team, some will follow them whatever.
But I don’t see them like that. I like their products (or used to) and if my football team are playing badly, I’ll still give them my money and go watch them, to support them. Apple can’t expect us to do that with them. I’m not paying over £1000 for a shoddy product. I’m not supporting them, I want excellence for my £1000. And they aren’t delivering that anymore
 
I remember the iPhone complaints in 2007.

No 3G??? Other phones have it.
No MMS??? Other phones can do that.
No Keyboard?? Have they gone mad??

Or the iPad in 2010.

No Multitasking??? Windows Tablets can.
No Stylus??? Windows has that
No camera?? It's DOA.

Or the iPod in 2001

Too expensive!!! Flash players are cheaper.
The back will scratch too easily.
Yawn, shouldn't they be making PC's?

Apple has never been perfect. The X is no different, it's just another step.

Vote with your wallet.
 
No, the iPhone 8 did that instead. It's a crappy upgrade from what it seems like. Plus, iOS 11 sucks. We just got HEVC this year and iOS 11 isn't optimized properly. I rather stick with a 2016 iPhone.
 
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The iPhone X is like the retina MacBook Pro or MacBook Air. It's the revolutionary guinea pig update for an existing product line. It shows the future intentions of their iPhone line, but clearly isn't meant to be the main-stream model for iPhones in 2017 or 2018.
 
The X hasn’t turned me off to Apple, but the people fluffing it sure have. I actually don’t want one now because it’s akin to wearing white rimmed sunglasses and flat brim baseball caps. I see it as a Chad phone.
 
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iPhone X is just another in a line of questionable design decisions (particularly after the seeing the touchbar macbook Pro that isn’t really very “Pro”). It feels like they’re too far over to the form side of “form over function”, but the form isn’t even as good as it once was. It’s not just their hardware either, the software design suffers from this as well with overly flat UIs everywhere in the OS. Studies have shown that people are 22% slower navigating flat UIs vs UIs have have defined touch targets or buttons, yet they stick to flat.

IMHO, the iPhone hardware design peaked with the 5/5S, with the beveled sides. It was and still is beautiful. X is about keeping a distinctive look over Android phones at the expense of a better design.
 
Its not the iphone x thats starting to turn off me from apple.

Its the software. They have the greatest hardware but do nothing with it. I could stand the notch, I could stand 1149€ for the x. But I cant stand the fact that it runs the exact same -visual- os than a bezel-phone.

I really expected a system redesign, to benefit from this extravagant screen. A dark mode for the oled screen (wtf that they didnt implemented this) for example. Or buttons on the new screen space (in concepts this was called the function bar). And so on and so on. Its a shame that we dont can benefit from this screen. Urgh.
 
Arf arf
Yeah, yeah, yeah (Grrrr)
Uh, Yeah don't get it twisted
This rap sh*t, is mine
Apple, it's not, a f**king, game
F**k what you heard
It's what you hearin
It's what you hearin (Listen)
It's what you hearin (Listen)
It's what you hearin (Listen)

iphone X gon give it to ya
F**k wait for you to get it on your own
iPhone X gon deliver to ya
Knock knock, open up the door, it's UPS for real
Wit the non-stop, pop pop and stainless steel
Go hard gettin busy wit it
 
Quite the opposite. For the first time since the iPhone 6, I'm actually excited about a new release.

People have short memories, or have not been around as long as I have. Apple has always been pretty daring in design and never afraid to charge way way too much for their products. Sometimes it's lead to complete des aster. Remember Lisa? How about the cube? The first all in one iMacs were a success but daring in design and expensive.

I like the X design, I've always stayed away from + models because of the size, and I've dreamed of a larger screen in a smaller form for years.
 
I got turned off at the launch of the 6+.

I got one not because I wanted it, but for a different reason. And I upgraded to a 6s+ for an entirely different reason than that, but again not because I wanted one.

I did not upgrade to the 7+, nor will I upgrade to the 8+ or the X.
 
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iPhone X is just another in a line of questionable design decisions (particularly after the seeing the touchbar macbook Pro that isn’t really very “Pro”). It feels like they’re too far over to the form side of “form over function”, but the form isn’t even as good as it once was. It’s not just their hardware either, the software design suffers from this as well with overly flat UIs everywhere in the OS. Studies have shown that people are 22% slower navigating flat UIs vs UIs have have defined touch targets or buttons, yet they stick to flat.

IMHO, the iPhone hardware design peaked with the 5/5S, with the beveled sides. It was and still is beautiful. X is about keeping a distinctive look over Android phones at the expense of a better design.

We think much alike. Flat UI should have died a quick death. It was an aberration at best. I can only imagine the effort that went into the face thing. Like really? The last thing I ever worried about was the security of my phone. If someone wants my crap that badly, they are going to get it no matter what.

And touchbar? I mean really? My cat pukes up better stuff. No "pro" would ever give a damn about touchbar. USELESS. Waste of time and energy.

And whjilst I am at it, the pathetic use of "one more thing" by Tim Cook at the event was pathetic. Over the years, anyone with a modicum of intelligence would have realized that that phrase could have been used brilliantly with not much effort.

But no, the Timster uses it for his first time to announce the thing WE ALL ALREADY KNEW ALL ABOUT. WTF?
 
It has not been the same Apple since Cook takes over. I can tell no passion in its product designs. I still buy Apple though. I just dont chase the newest release anymore.
 
No it hasn’t turned me off at all, I don’t know what you mean about shoddy product? Personally I will be getting the iPhone X it looks great. Saying that do I think that Apple has changed? Yes and that’s to be expected under a different C.E.O but I don’t think they have gotten worse, personally I think under Cook Apple has gotten bettter and moved into the future. Of course not everyone is going to like change but i think it’s for the better.
 
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Like really? The last thing I ever worried about was the security of my phone. If someone wants my crap that badly, they are going to get it no matter what.

Exactly.

My mind was made up to upgrade from the 6s Plus to the 8 Plus about 14 seconds after I got done watching the keynote. I wanted to upgrade because the ear speaker was fading and the battery life was getting to the point where I'd be charging it every 4-5 hours.

The X has features I'm not interested in... mainly Face ID and the screen layout.

When the guy at the keynote was like "You had a 1 in 50k chance of getting your phone unlocked by a random fingerprint with Touch ID... it's now 1 in 1M chance with Face ID."

I was like "You really think I give a rats?"

More Apple Kool-Aid I'm not buying... I'll keep the 8 Plus and Touch ID for the next 2 years.
 
This is the most excited I have been for an iPhone since the 6 Plus. I think the design is beautiful, I think Face ID and swipe gestures instead of a touch ID and home button is going to be a huge improvement that I personally am going to love. I think that the resolution difference between the X and my S8+ is going to be completely indistinguishable and calling it lower res is a fact, calling it inferior is just silly since we haven't even seen it yet.

The price thing is going to be different for everyone. It is pretty expensive, but without reducing the price of the 8 and 8 Plus they really didn't have a choice.
 
I haven't been interested in the iPhone lineup for a long time because of the huge bezels and prices. Removing the headphone jack was idiotic and the iPhone X feels like a half-finished concept rather than a completely new design. If you put it side by side with a S8 or the upcoming LG V30 it looks pretty amateurish in design with the notch etc. Even the Essential Phone looks better.

Apple post-Jobs has been pretty hit and miss. I think the latest iPad Pros are great, I love mine. iOS 11 was a good improvement especially on those devices.

At the same time the Macbook Pro Touchbar is a stupid, nearly useless feature that I fully expect to die in a year or two as nobody really seems to find any good ways to utilize it. Touch ID on the same laptop is a very welcome feature even if the implementation is on a somewhat wobbly button. Having only USB-C ports has been an annoyance and the disconnect with Lightning vs USB-C on their devices results in more dongles and it doesn't help they aren't even bundled on some of the most expensive phones on the market. Likewise not having a fast charger included with the iPhone X is ******** when my much cheaper, 1.5 years old Oneplus 3 comes with one.
 
We think much alike. Flat UI should have died a quick death. It was an aberration at best. I can only imagine the effort that went into the face thing. Like really? The last thing I ever worried about was the security of my phone. If someone wants my crap that badly, they are going to get it no matter what.

And touchbar? I mean really? My cat pukes up better stuff. No "pro" would ever give a damn about touchbar. USELESS. Waste of time and energy.

And whjilst I am at it, the pathetic use of "one more thing" by Tim Cook at the event was pathetic. Over the years, anyone with a modicum of intelligence would have realized that that phrase could have been used brilliantly with not much effort.

But no, the Timster uses it for his first time to announce the thing WE ALL ALREADY KNEW ALL ABOUT. WTF?

Yeah OBVIOUSLY flat UI was a huge mistake, it's not every single other UI design in the last few years has adopted it. Personally I FAR prefer the flat UI stuff than the awful skeuomorphism design language we had before.

I don't get the hate for the touchbar either...like it makes an area of the keyboard that was effectively useless for the average person into something that does something. What's so bad about it?

Only reason one more thing had an impact before was people weren't nearly concerned with Apple rumors and their supply chain back then and their operation was smaller so there were less leaks. Were Steve Jobs around today we would still have just as many leaks and the big announcements would still be knows weeks in advance. Part of the territory of being this successful.
 
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Not at all. People focus on trivial things (Zomg its just now getting wireless charging?) and forgetting the serious horsepower its packing under the hood. No one else is doing what Apple is currently doing with the new Bionic chip.

Apples greatest achievements with the iPhone haven't been whats on the surface, its what's underneath.
 
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I'm very happy to see that Apple made a new design to iPhone - and its rock for me !! :):apple:
 
Yeah OBVIOUSLY flat UI was a huge mistake, it's not every single other UI design in the last few years has adopted it. Personally I FAR prefer the flat UI stuff than the awful skeuomorphism design language we had before.

I don't get the hate for the touchbar either...like it makes an area of the keyboard that was effectively useless for the average person into something that does something. What's so bad about it?

Only reason one more thing had an impact before was people weren't nearly concerned with Apple rumors and their supply chain back then and their operation was smaller so there were less leaks. Were Steve Jobs around today we would still have just as many leaks and the big announcements would still be knows weeks in advance. Part of the territory of being this successful.
Yeah, I get that last part. HArd for even Apple to keep a secret these days :) But really, the use of "one more thing" catch phrase only WORKS if the item is at least mostly a surprise. More like, "And now, the thing you have all been waiting for" or like that would be better. No biggie, just surprised me that he had not used it before and chose to use it now.

And I guess the other two points are personal opinion.
 
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