I don’t know. It plays well(ish) on my older 4K ATV with the older remote. It might be a remote thing, because I’m using the new ATV4K with an Xbox controller ?♂️
Not all content is on-demand streaming. For example, in the morning my wife and I watch Bloomberg. With my old antiquated cable box a single press of a button turned on the TV's and changed to Bloomberg. It is totally possible for ATV to do the same; select Hulu app / Live / Bloomberg. These are not difficult hooks to program.
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My ATV HAS as much memory as my applewatch.AppleTV is a great Product that I hope never goes away. It offloads image and audio processing from your TV so it can focus on producing the best and audio image quality. My hope is things like DTS audio are in its future and that they increase file size over time for better image and audio. Perhaps the ability to download a film to the device itself as it’s playing that automatically dumps when you have finished watching a movie or after a 24 hour period (you hear me Apple and content providers? Find a fix for this contractually). The later being the biggest gap in all streaming to help those with lower bandwidth options. Having a gig into the house has forever altered our streaming experience, but not everyone has this capability. If anyone can get it done, it’s Apple with a closed device like AppleTV to prevent offloading of the content. It may be the only way to deliver 8k streaming anyway On a large scale. Think TiVo for your movie collection..kalaidescape is also a good example in how it delivers streaming content, but the average consumer isn’t going to be able to use something like that. A 256GB model that allows for 3-4 4k disc equivalent downloads to the device would do the trick. A TV will never have that kind of storage.
This is how you do it, but again, the average consumer can’t access something like this:
The Ultimate Movie Platform for Your Home Theater - Kaleidescape
Kaleidescape's movie platform elevates every component of your home theater for the ultimate cinematic experience in your house. Learn more now.www.kaleidescape.com
First Look Review Kaleidescape Strato S – Theater Quality Movie Download System and Home Server! - Projector Reviews
The Strato S lets you download and view movies and other content, with even higher quality than disc! It supports 4K with HDR
A TV as in a television. The processing onboard should be used for picture processing. Any other onboard apps takes away from that. An AppleTV (or other device) will always be a better option.
The eco system is perhaps the best selling point. Though thought of for certain gaming, I love the Nvidia Shield TV Pro for streaming and playing both local and network files. It can take 1080p video and upscale (to 4k)better than most other systems and at times, televisions. It is not perfect but for this function, I find it worth losing some of the eco system. I admit I would have loved to see Apple lead the way rather than tag along for the ride and use their box as a vehicle to sell product.
question sir since you seems knowledgeable on the subject, is hat why Apple TV seems to produce a better image and colors than the Apple TV app on my tvs? because it looks different from my tv to my xbox , play station and native app, but the ATV looks better reproducing the same content?AppleTV is a great Product that I hope never goes away. It offloads image and audio processing from your TV so it can focus on producing the best and audio image quality. My hope is things like DTS audio are in its future and that they increase file size over time for better image and audio. Perhaps the ability to download a film to the device itself as it’s playing that automatically dumps when you have finished watching a movie or after a 24 hour period (you hear me Apple and content providers? Find a fix for this contractually). The later being the biggest gap in all streaming to help those with lower bandwidth options. Having a gig into the house has forever altered our streaming experience, but not everyone has this capability. If anyone can get it done, it’s Apple with a closed device like AppleTV to prevent offloading of the content. It may be the only way to deliver 8k streaming anyway On a large scale. Think TiVo for your movie collection..kalaidescape is also a good example in how it delivers streaming content, but the average consumer isn’t going to be able to use something like that. A 256GB model that allows for 3-4 4k disc equivalent downloads to the device would do the trick. A TV will never have that kind of storage.
This is how you do it, but again, the average consumer can’t access something like this:
The Ultimate Movie Platform for Your Home Theater - Kaleidescape
Kaleidescape's movie platform elevates every component of your home theater for the ultimate cinematic experience in your house. Learn more now.
First Look Review Kaleidescape Strato S – Theater Quality Movie Download System and Home Server! - Projector Reviews
The Strato S lets you download and view movies and other content, with even higher quality than disc! It supports 4K with HDR
I’ve been asking for a browser on tvOS since day one.
I think you’re right, the Apple TV is capable of modern gaming, but most of the Apple arcade games available are mobile games. Not really taking advantage of playing on a TV.
The lack of TrueHD support kills the deal for me. I'd love to replace my Nvidia Shield Pro with a shiny ATV 4k TV, but after installing an atmos sound system a few weeks ago, I can't go back to plain old surround sound for my personal media library.The Apple TV uses/sends compressed sound. I'll just paste a portion of the above link because I will mess it up,
What is HDMI 2.1? An Overview
HDMI 2.1 is arguably one of the most significant upgrades to the HDMI standard. Originally announced in November 2017, HDMI 2.1 significantly increases the maximum bandwidth capability of HDMI up to 48Gbps, and even more when compression is used.www.rtings.com
ENHANCED AUDIO RETURN CHANNEL (EARC)
The Audio Return Channel, or ARC, has been a part of the HDMI standard since version 1.4. ARC allows you to connect all of your devices (Blu-ray, game console, etc) directly to either your TV or to the receiver, and have a single HDMI cable connecting to the other device. This enables bi-directional communication between your receiver and TV; audio is sent from the TV to the receiver, or the receiver sends video back to the TV, with only one cable. This is great for a wall-mounted TV as it helps keep your setup clean.
The current implementation of ARC has some limitations, though; the low bandwidth (~1 Mbps) limits the quality of the audio that can be sent over the return channel, making it impossible to send high quality, uncompressed audio to your receiver. eARC solves these issues, as long as you have a compatible receiver as well. It vastly increases the amount of bandwidth that the ARC channel can use, up to an impressive 37 Mbps. This extra bandwidth makes it possible to send uncompressed 5.1 and 7.1 audio, like Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA, which are often the carrier signals for Dolby Atmos and DTS:X.
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The Apple TV can’t passthrough DTS-HD MA or TrueHD...
The compression method that the Apple TV uses is very good but if Apple is going to state 2.1 then it should be 2.1. Other than that I have nothing but luv for the unit. I hope, maybe the next version will be able to passthrough uncompressed audio.
NVidia Shield Pro is rather impressive for what it is and how well it can upscale 1080p to 4k etc. I always wonder why Apple insists on 'holding back' on various features while others start to pass them by.
Because Apple can squeeze more $$ with incremental eh "updates".
. For general purposes (including the ecosystem), the Apple TV is still the best in my book and far from being a failure.
Everyone has different needs and tastes. For me, Nvidia is a better fit for my purposes. All just say again, I wish Apple TV would not hold back as much on certain features. They do the same with the phone and more which translates to not wanting to allow competing businesses to possibly be engaged.Because Apple can squeeze more $$ with incremental eh "updates".
Even with the faults, I do like the Apple TV. Maybe, when Apple lets consumers download movies with uncompressed audio, we might see the Apple TV with uncompressed Dolby and etc... Granted the studios might have something to do with it also but until then, I remain a fan of the discs and player
Apple's walled garden reminds me of the days when it was Windows that had their's almost the same as Apple now. It's freaking insane. Except for the security concerns lol.
Yep. I hated having to return mine. I wanted the better hardware specs of the ATV 4k gen 3 since the media I play continues to increase in audio and video quality, requiring better hardware.
Honestly, the Apple TV is likely to please any typical Apple product user and then some. The NVidia's hardware was way ahead of ATV in many ways that ATV could not through updates catch up but had to be hardware upgraded (newer model). Nearly all my discs are "archived" on drive and that is why Nvidia does great for me. Admittedly, when all was 1080, I could play disc or file converted via my Oppo 103 and have a great experience (plasma tv couldn't be beat back when). If people ask for easy and have Apple in the home, I would no hesitate to suggest Apple TV as it does just fine for the average person and is an enjoyable experience.
