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I'm in the 320 group as well and live in NY so that time stamp is defaitnly not tide with the west coast.
I though I was in the FDX90 flight as well but I guess not :/
Were all of you that were part of that flight have expedited shipping by any chance? Would make sense that you all have your shipment in then US already and the rest of us don't even though our MBPs have been sitting in china for days.
Expedited my big toe!
That appears to be a gimmick. But hey whatever makes you feel better right. P.S. Apple was very kind to refund my expedited charge and keep expedited status. Good peeps there if I do say so myself. Wish they worked for fed ex
App OMG what app. I just refresh in safari or stinky old Pc whatever is at my fingertips. Will have to look at that app thingy.
That appears to be a gimmick. But hey whatever makes you feel better right. P.S. Apple was very kind to refund my expedited charge and keep expedited status. Good peeps there if I do say so myself. Wish they worked for fed ex
App OMG what app. I just refresh in safari or stinky old Pc whatever is at my fingertips. Will have to look at that app thingy.
Unfortunately though my boyfriend says I'm worse than a crack head waiting for the dealer!!! How dare he! LOL but seriously I think I might need help.
New Poll....How many times an hour do you hit refresh on tracking info
I gave up on hitting refresh and installed the "ReloadEvery" add-on for FireFox. It lets you reload every X seconds/minutes. I mainly use Safari, so I have a FireFox window sitting under my Safari window and next to the dock, with just the area where new stuff shows up visible. And it's reloading itself every 10 seconds.
Question: did anyone with a Apr 20 3:20am 2nd "in transit" scan pay for expedited? Probably answered somewhere back but I can't recall if it was...
I still suspect those are just prepared for loading (or possibly even loaded, depending on whether the PVG-ANC MD-11 overnights in PVG to stage it for its Tuesday flight after its 3 day weekend) and will go out PVG-ANC on FDX28. We'll find out when someone gets an arrival scan somewhere...
I didn't pay for expedited, but the Apple service rep upgraded me from Standard to Expedited for free. But maybe this kind of free upgrade doesn't have as much priority as someone who actually pays for it?
It's maybe just my bad luck that's keeping those computers in China
, my stuff always gets delayed. One time it took me around five months to get something shipped from Texas...Apr 20, 2010 1:16 AM Int'l shipment release denied as recipient stopped obsessively watching package status and went to sleep MEMPHIS, TN
Apr 20, 2010 3:42 AM In transit MEMPHIS, TN
Apr 20, 2010 5:50 AM Arrived at FedEx location ANCHORAGE, AK
Apr 20, 2010 8:08 AM In transit ANCHORAGE, AK
Apr 20, 2010 10:15 AM Departed FedEx location ANCHORAGE, AK
Apr 21, 2010 4:22 AM In transit SHANGHAI, CN
...what you'll wake up to.
I am in NYC, have a 3:20 In Transit stamp, paid for expedited shipping and ordered around 11:30am the day after they released (Wednesday).
I ordered the 15" i7 Hires Antiglare with 7200 rpm drive.
I am unclear as to what benefit I am getting from expedited, as it sat in Shanghai from the 17th to the 20th doing nothing.
Still supposedly on pace for a Apr 21st AM delivery....
What the hell is going on over there? I feel like my expedited service has slowed it down....
I ordered the 15" i7 Hires Antiglare with 7200 rpm drive.
I am unclear as to what benefit I am getting from expedited, as it sat in Shanghai from the 17th to the 20th doing nothing.
Still supposedly on pace for a Apr 21st AM delivery....
What the hell is going on over there? I feel like my expedited service has slowed it down....
Didn't pay for expedited, but got an upgrade to it by asking nicely before I shipped. I do agree, and suspect that they loaded expedited packages on first. However, I also suspect that "expedited" ended up playing a part in Apple's own packaging/shipping. They're using FedEx's International Priority "Direct Distribution" service, which means they bundle up shipments into pallets that they hand off to FedEx, then FedEx transports those to the US. Each pallet (or group of) clears customs as a "single unit", when it hits its first point of entry into the US, and at that point FedEx breaks the shipments up into individual packages and routes them as normal shipments within the US. So I suspect that, possibly especially for the Monday shipment (since PVG-ANC didn't run, and PVG-MEM means most connections will be further than from ANC, so it's possible there's a cost premium there), that they loaded up the expedited stuff with an Apr 21 or Apr 22 date first...then loaded other packages as they could.
Still waiting to see what does happen with the Apr 20 3:20 AM scanned stuff to assuage my curiosity. Guess we'll find out later Tuesday...
Also, I want to point out, I have IP Direct Distribution. Which while FedEx, is not actually FedEx, they routed me through several different numbers when I spoke to them yesterday (Monday 11am EST) and said there were issues with capacity on the planes.
My guess is that planes stuck in Europe have screwed up overall scheduling and are affecting shipment capacity out of China. IE, you usually always fly east, or up over the poles, so planes coming out of Shanghai may not be being replaced as quickly as normally adding to delays or decreased capacity.
Not sure exactly what IP Direct Distribution means, but it seemed to be a 3rd party courier that was not specifically FedEx. If this is the case, 3rd party couriers which are usually faster, may end up being slower if commercial flights are being re-routed, or run on planes of different than usual size, given they may not have their own fleet to use such as FedEx....
Pure speculation... feel free to prove me wrong...
My guess is that planes stuck in Europe have screwed up overall scheduling and are affecting shipment capacity out of China. IE, you usually always fly east, or up over the poles, so planes coming out of Shanghai may not be being replaced as quickly as normally adding to delays or decreased capacity.
Not sure exactly what IP Direct Distribution means, but it seemed to be a 3rd party courier that was not specifically FedEx. If this is the case, 3rd party couriers which are usually faster, may end up being slower if commercial flights are being re-routed, or run on planes of different than usual size, given they may not have their own fleet to use such as FedEx....
Pure speculation... feel free to prove me wrong...
I don't believe this to be the case; see my post immediately before yours. Some of that is speculation, but also based on what I've read and shipping info I've seen.
Also see fedex.com on the issue. So, as I understand it, it's just a way to send a bunch of packages to the same country, with the shipper electronically and likely also physically consolidating them into groups that are then treated as large individual pieces until they hit the destination country and clear customs. At that point, they are treated as regular individual FedEx packages.
My 15 arrived today, and was a custom assembly (HR screen, 8gb, 500gb@7200).
Will be putting an Intel 80gb in it later in the week. So far it's nice and zippy after running all the updates, etc.
I did not get exped shipping, Fedex was showing a delivery date of April 22 right up until it was on the truck this morning. The last full tracking update had it in Memphis last night.
Hope this helps people.
Will be putting an Intel 80gb in it later in the week. So far it's nice and zippy after running all the updates, etc.
I did not get exped shipping, Fedex was showing a delivery date of April 22 right up until it was on the truck this morning. The last full tracking update had it in Memphis last night.
Hope this helps people.
Fair Enough
Any chance we're on the Continental flight that gets in at 7am this morning to Newark... I don't know why they'd send New York packages via Anchorage its significantly further. Plus a 320am scan doesn't match up with any fedex flights and would give it time to get loaded up full of passengers, and then out of the gate by the 5am actual departure time of the flight.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA86
Otherwise you're really pushing it to get it on a flight to Memphis, through customs, then a flight to New York by 1030am on the 21st if it hasn't even left Shanghai yet...
Any chance we're on the Continental flight that gets in at 7am this morning to Newark... I don't know why they'd send New York packages via Anchorage its significantly further. Plus a 320am scan doesn't match up with any fedex flights and would give it time to get loaded up full of passengers, and then out of the gate by the 5am actual departure time of the flight.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/COA86
Otherwise you're really pushing it to get it on a flight to Memphis, through customs, then a flight to New York by 1030am on the 21st if it hasn't even left Shanghai yet...
Almost certainly not. FedEx has its own fleet, and sending freight on passenger aircraft is much more expensive. If they were contracting out to another carrier, it would be one of the many other cargo carriers who flies between China and the US.
It's also absolutely not significantly further; take a look at a globe rather than a 2D Mercator projection or whatever (or see a good 2D projection like the link I have below.) The polar routes to most of the US go right past/through Alaska for most destinations. PVG-ANC-NYC is 4.0% further than PVG-NYC. And I can guarantee you that those 4% are MORE than made up for in fuel savings; you don't have to carry a ton of extra fuel to get you all the way to NYC from China. Instead you can land in Anchorage without all that excess fuel to carry. Cargo normally does not fly such long routes as PVG-NYC; there aren't many freighter planes that can fly that distance efficiently. The reason passenger flights that long exist is since us humans tend to prefer fewer stops; cargo doesn't mind if it takes a couple extra stops to save fuel. And ANC is also extremely convenient since it's right in the way of so many different routes: why send cargo all that way to NYC, from where you'd have to fly it backwards to most of the US, when you can bundle it up with other cargo and split it up in ANC to fly to its final destination... The PVG-MEM flight is unusually long for cargo and I don't fully understand its purpose myself.
But it goes into a far larger hub than NYC for FedEx, with much better connections.Not at all. With a 9PM departure out of Shanghai on FDX28 PVG-ANC, you arrive in ANC around 12PM - 1PM the same day (going back in time thanks to the time difference.
) There are a bunch of ANC flights that get to you US hubs in time to make a connection early the next morning to almost anywhere in the US. (See my mini-FAQ in my sig if you're curious about that further.) Even if that flight into ANC was delayed by 2 or 3 hours, you can still easily make it onto most connections. So, due to the time difference, a package shipped from Shanghai can very easily make it to the continental US the next calendar day.Oops, meant to say Shanghai - Ank - Memphis - NYC or anything involving Memphis, didn't make any sense... and there's got to be enough going from China to NYC to come straight here... I bet you could fill a plane with laptops and iPads and nothing else, park it in Newark and you'd need another in a week. Though you're certainly right, fuel savings are probably greater than 4%... and for that route, I did think it was more like 10-15% further.
Anyway, point of my speculation was just wishful thinking of it getting to me tomorrow if it landed by 7am EST, it could be in Manhattan in time for the trucks... and that I paid for expediting shipping, which to me means they should put that sucker on a non-stop flight to the closest airport. The whole bulk packaging now that I know what it is kind of irritates me. I mean, buy it a ticket if you need to — don't they realize that Apple laptops are like people, and they don't like making stops either.
Some people had been getting there's a day early so I was hopeful. I'm on a plane tomorrow evening, so it'll have to wait til I get back.
I was kind of annoyed not to see a different shipping option, like the type of private courier I've mentioned. We send stuff to LA all the time like that, its great. Why can't we have the reverse from China?
Anyway, point of my speculation was just wishful thinking of it getting to me tomorrow if it landed by 7am EST, it could be in Manhattan in time for the trucks... and that I paid for expediting shipping, which to me means they should put that sucker on a non-stop flight to the closest airport. The whole bulk packaging now that I know what it is kind of irritates me. I mean, buy it a ticket if you need to — don't they realize that Apple laptops are like people, and they don't like making stops either.
Some people had been getting there's a day early so I was hopeful. I'm on a plane tomorrow evening, so it'll have to wait til I get back.
I was kind of annoyed not to see a different shipping option, like the type of private courier I've mentioned. We send stuff to LA all the time like that, its great. Why can't we have the reverse from China?
Almost certainly not. FedEx has its own fleet, and sending freight on passenger aircraft is much more expensive. If they were contracting out to another carrier, it would be one of the many other cargo carriers who flies between China and the US.
It's also absolutely not significantly further; take a look at a globe rather than a 2D Mercator projection or whatever (or see a good 2D projection like the link I have below.) The polar routes to most of the US go right past/through Alaska for most destinations. PVG-ANC-NYC is 4.0% further than PVG-NYC. And I can guarantee you that those 4% are MORE than made up for in fuel savings; you don't have to carry a ton of extra fuel to get you all the way to NYC from China. Instead you can land in Anchorage without all that excess fuel to carry. Cargo normally does not fly such long routes as PVG-NYC; there aren't many freighter planes that can fly that distance efficiently. The reason passenger flights that long exist is since us humans tend to prefer fewer stops; cargo doesn't mind if it takes a couple extra stops to save fuel. And ANC is also extremely convenient since it's right in the way of so many different routes: why send cargo all that way to NYC, from where you'd have to fly it backwards to most of the US, when you can bundle it up with other cargo and split it up in ANC to fly to its final destination... The PVG-MEM flight is unusually long for cargo and I don't fully understand its purpose myself.
Not at all. With a 9PM departure out of Shanghai on FDX28 PVG-ANC, you arrive in ANC around 12PM - 1PM the same day (going back in time thanks to the time difference.
There's a good chance (especially since you're expedited) that you'll go ANC-EWR. See the mini-FAQ in my sig again for info on the FedEx routes out of ANC to the continental US... Makes much more sense to me to go from <various Asian locations>-ANC-NYC and aggregate things on the leg to Anchorage. There may be enough cargo from China in general to the NYC area, but there are lots of places in China that such cargo comes from! ANC really does make a better aggregation point by far than trying to aggregate somewhere in China and then have excessively long flight legs to places like NYC. If your package wasn't expedited and was purposefully delayed, it could indeed go via MEM or some other less optimal route, but probably just to even out load and such things.
Yeah; we still have no real clue where those Apr 20 3:20AM scan packages are going... I'm still guessing ANC, but I could be totally wrong. Possibly ANC via some other location in Asia that I don't know how to look up, and have been failing at trying to figure out how to...
Totally agree with you here; don't even need a private courier option. For "normal" retail shipping, FedEx offers two services from Shanghai to the US: "International Priority" with 1 business day delivery from shipment for anywhere reasonably close to a major city (and Saturday delivery available for ~$10 extra), and "International Economy" with 3 business day delivery from shipment. I can't imagine it'd be all that much more for Apple to offer a shipping option that guarantees the "International Priority" delivery time; I'm sure many people would gladly pay a $30 - $50 extra fee or whatever to be guaranteed next day delivery, and also have Apple push them forwards in the build queue. It seems the "International Priority Direct Distribution" that Apple is using is basically an extra business day on top of that...however, several people HAVE gotten their packages the next business day after they shipped out of Shanghai.
ANC is actually closer. And it's the best air freight hub on the planet (for fuel) we're 9 hours from almost every major city except Sydney.
And I apologize if I was a bit snappish in my reply.
I am still quite curious as well as to what that 3:20AM timestamp means. I completely agree that it could be some flight that we cannot see on FlightAware, quite possibly routing via NRT or ICN...and we've seen evidence for some stuff coming via NRT already (those being the few packages that went up to Guangzhou/CAN first, and then seemingly took an unknown route to NRT, arriving at ANC matching an NRT flight's arrival quite closely.) There's no way to know until those arrive somewhere else, from which we can hopefully determine at least the last part of the path it took.It's only 7.5 - 8 hours PVG-ANC. There's actually a couple hours delay from arrival in ANC until the first flights down to the continental US hubs. And lots of the flights from those hubs arrive in time to connect to the early AM outbound banks to get to wherever...
They're generally accurate within the US because they plan your packages to take a certain route with certain delays (if it's not overnight), etc. However, we've seen several people have their shipments arrive early...one business day after shipment out of PVG; I've seen international stuff vary like this in many cases. I'm also factoring in that regular retail FedEx International Priority to pretty much anywhere that's near a major city is quoted as 1 business day in transit. So, their network can easily get something from Shanghai to most folks in 1 business day...most people are getting quoted 2 days if expedited, longer if not, but again we are seeing people getting them early, 1 business day after shipping. (And business day here seems to mean Mon - Sat; the only day without shipments directly out of PVG is Sunday. Monday is also "special" because it only has PVG-MEM, no PVG-ANC.)
Mine shipped earlier today
Original receive date was April 27-May 3rd. Now the Apple store/Fed Ex Tracking are saying anywhere between this Thursday and next Monday the 26th. That would be great, but if it arrives within the original receive date, works for me.
I'm just stunned it shipped so fast because I ordered a BtO 15" Saturday evening and it shipped in one business day rather than the 5-7 days I was given with my order.
Original receive date was April 27-May 3rd. Now the Apple store/Fed Ex Tracking are saying anywhere between this Thursday and next Monday the 26th. That would be great, but if it arrives within the original receive date, works for me.
I'm just stunned it shipped so fast because I ordered a BtO 15" Saturday evening and it shipped in one business day rather than the 5-7 days I was given with my order.
Yay!
Apr 20, 2010 2:40 AM Departed FedEx location MEMPHIS, TN
Apr 20, 2010 12:36 AM Int'l shipment release MEMPHIS, TN
Apr 19, 2010 11:41 PM Arrived at FedEx location MEMPHIS, TN
Apr 19, 2010 11:14 PM In transit SHANGHAI CN
Exactly matches the 2:40AM timestamp of FDX1406 MEM-BOS, just took a while to show up after departure. It's only a 10 minute drive from BOS to my local delivery location. Getting close to bedtime...and I'll be quite happy if my slumber is disturbed by the FedEx guy buzzing my apt in a few hours. (Better not delay it once it gets to Boston, FedEx. I'll have to very angrily shake my fist at you if you do that!)
Apr 20, 2010 2:40 AM Departed FedEx location MEMPHIS, TN
Apr 20, 2010 12:36 AM Int'l shipment release MEMPHIS, TN
Apr 19, 2010 11:41 PM Arrived at FedEx location MEMPHIS, TN
Apr 19, 2010 11:14 PM In transit SHANGHAI CN
Exactly matches the 2:40AM timestamp of FDX1406 MEM-BOS, just took a while to show up after departure. It's only a 10 minute drive from BOS to my local delivery location. Getting close to bedtime...and I'll be quite happy if my slumber is disturbed by the FedEx guy buzzing my apt in a few hours.
(Better not delay it once it gets to Boston, FedEx. I'll have to very angrily shake my fist at you if you do that!)