You guys can argue all day. Gorilla glass/ion-x is lousy for a watch crystal. its LOUSY. There is a reason every quality watch uses Sapphire. This shatter resistance difference is way over played and is getting old. Neither will shatter easily. The ion-x will however scratch and chip wayyyyyyyy easier. I would suspect in version 2 all models will use sapphire and I expect to see the iPhone move that way slowly as well.
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Has your sapphire screen scratched yet? [MERGED Scratched Sapphire Display threads]
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Yeah that's exactly it. No comparison between gorilla glass and sapphire. Any good watch uses sapphire, as does the iphone on the home button and camera lens. Like you said the day is coming when the entire phone will be sapphire.
These complaints about the design of the watch are laughable and obviously from the tech dork point of view. Just read an article from a watch collector who said that the design and the way the crystal is curved is a significant achievement at this price point that the Swiss should be scared of. There is absolutely nothing close to this price point that comes near the AW in terms of design and materials. Yet the dorks just cry that Apple designed it wrong because if they smash it into a hard object yes it will get damaged. How silly this is.
True. Apple didn't decide to go with sapphire in a vacuum. They did it because that's what all the other quality watch makers were doing. And if shattering was a pervasive issue, they would have never migrated to it.
But I think that most people who can afford sapphire covered watches would rather deal with replacing a screen now and then as opposed to walking around with a scratched up watch.
not exactly sure what you are trying to accomplish here... trying to see if it has happened to others? trying to prove its a defect? just posting to provide info?
but in all seriousness, you scratched the watch face. there is nothing you can do to fix it. you probably got unlucky and managed to find something that was harder than the sapphire crystal.
moving to the glass face is not going to solve that issue... if whatever you bumped into was hard enough to gouge sapphire then it would have damaged the glass too.
also, compared to your Tag the Apple Watch's bezel is nonexistent. bezels take a lot of dings and hits but on an AW it goes straight to the crystal.
just FYI for the people thinking DLC somehow enhances the strength of metal, it really does not. every diver i have owned that was DLC'ed showed just as many scratches and dings as an uncoated stainless.
but in all seriousness, you scratched the watch face. there is nothing you can do to fix it. you probably got unlucky and managed to find something that was harder than the sapphire crystal.
moving to the glass face is not going to solve that issue... if whatever you bumped into was hard enough to gouge sapphire then it would have damaged the glass too.
also, compared to your Tag the Apple Watch's bezel is nonexistent. bezels take a lot of dings and hits but on an AW it goes straight to the crystal.
just FYI for the people thinking DLC somehow enhances the strength of metal, it really does not. every diver i have owned that was DLC'ed showed just as many scratches and dings as an uncoated stainless.
Or, you accept that exposed items get nicked and you live with it and move on while enjoying the smooth feel of a hard surface under your finger and not some vinyl slip cover. What's the point of buying a finely engineered object just to preserve it for 'the next guy'? You get to eat the depreciation and the 'next guy' gets a like new item for half the cost. S****w him or her on that. They can go cheap and get a used item with minor dings, but I get the best years out of it and get to put those dings there.
For sure, no protection is infallibleIt someone wants to preserve 'like new' condition then best to leave that rascal wrapped ..... in the shipping container on a shelf
I agree but of course it seems as they are here posting... they can't accept it.
You are right, I can't accept that apple would put some coating on the sapphire glass! This is stupid. I am an apple fan (I have every Apple product ) but I can't believe you guys would protect such an inferior product. Just to drive you nuts, I am going to return mine.
Inferior product..... Ok. I've bounced my sport off many walls, railings, doors, ect and it's still pristine. Sorry you're not happy.
I think the bigger deal is that fact that the DLC scratched. AFAIK this is the first reported instance of it scratching, would be interesting to find out what exactly caused the damage to the watch. The fact that the OP doesn't remember it happening is odd as it should have taken substantial force to scratch the DLC and crack/scratch the sapphire crystal.
Anyone else had the oleophobic coating scratching off?
Now the watch has been out a while, I was wondering if anyone has had their oleophobic coating rub/scratch off? Some of mine scratched off within days of buying it yet the sapphire wasn't actually scratched underneath. Why put something softer than the sapphire screen on top of the screen? Completely defeats the point of a sapphire screen. This happened to me a few weeks ago and have since returned my watch, i was just interested to see how widespread the issue is now.
Now the watch has been out a while, I was wondering if anyone has had their oleophobic coating rub/scratch off? Some of mine scratched off within days of buying it yet the sapphire wasn't actually scratched underneath. Why put something softer than the sapphire screen on top of the screen? Completely defeats the point of a sapphire screen. This happened to me a few weeks ago and have since returned my watch, i was just interested to see how widespread the issue is now.
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Tried them, you don't get a reply.... Plus they are more about the sport model whereas I'm interested in why put something that scratches (the coating) over something which is used to stop scratches (the sapphire screen). Makes no sense.
There is a thread about a guy that thought he scratched the sapphire but it he found out it was just the coating, in the end he removed the coating as advised here and everything was ok.
I have since discovered this on my own, not just that video, but numerous videos showing both sapphire and Ion-X glass shattering in a more or less equal ratio. Without confirming I've seen every single Youtube drop test video of an Watch, it does appear to me that more Sport Watches have shattered during these tests than Sapphire. Which goes to someone else's point, if you hit either watch hard enough, it will shatter. In the end, since there's not much difference in how they respond to these impact tests, most people would rather replace a crystal every now and then than walk around with a scratched one.
I'm amused that people are shocked that watches are getting scratched. Every watch known to man will scratch if subjected to the right material. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Even a Rolex. Apple didn't create some kind of magical voodoo to prevent physics. They just offered 2 types of material with differing RESISTANCE. Never once did apple say their watches could not be scratched. I have watches with sapphire, hardened glass, etc and they all end up scratched. That's just what happens when you wear an object on an appendage that just so happens to come in contact with stuff on a daily basis. You rarely notice how much it happens because you are just used to it.
Scotch Brite pad , link: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1875321/
Btw you can always let it fade by itself, i doubt it will hold up for long at least of the iphones it never does (my experience of course).
Coating scratches fade away over time. Not an excuse, obviously, but clearly that separates the situation from a scratch in the sapphire. Calling it a con seems over drammatic to me.
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There are not many materials you should come into contact with under normal use that could scratch sapphire... The body itself, of course, but the sapphire would be more challenging. I dont think it goes without saying, as you express, that all watches scratch. I have several watches from 2 decades ago that formerly got a lot of use, and the sapphire on them is pristine. As it is on my AW.
Yes such a fail. Maybe a class action suit! LOL!
It seems I'm the only one who thinks putting something that scratches on top of something that shouldn't scratch is the biggest fail ever.....