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Makes complete sense that the effect of reduced flights would be fuller, packed cabins.

Good to know the cattle car mentality is alive and well:D

“Pilot, I read online this flights supposed to be empty why is it full!?!”

“Listen cow get in your seat like the rest of the herd”

😂
 
Americans who claim to stay at home are probably going out the most just like everyone else

"Probably"?

Do you have data, evidence or something such as proof for such a statement?

Most posters on here are taking precautions from what I read.
Are you saying they are all lying?

Indeed.

From what I have read here, on these fora, most from the US appear to be paying heed to public health sidelines, showing consideration for others, and taking sensible precautions when they venture out in public.
 
The only "Changes" and/or "Adjustments" we're making are to follow the recommendations/directives du jour.

Primarily wear a mask where requested and social distance.

Of course much of the younger generation are "immune" so they can do whatever; party, bar hop, protest, riot, burn things down, take over Seattle, etc. But its better than what we did as the stupid youth of the 60's.
 
I guess I'm the guy your mother warned you about. I older, retired, and refuse to be shamed into wearing a mask or staying home all day long, every day.

As far as testing, why bother? Either you have it, have had it, or you don't. But what does a test tell you? That at the time you were tested you were negative. But you could be tested, be exposed on the way home from being tested, contract the virus and die... all with a negative test. So, there's that.

If, as is reported by the CDC, the numbers of infected people is as much as 10x higher than what is reported, that means the rates of hospitalizations, deaths, on ventilators, etc, is TEN TIMES OVER-REPORTED.
 
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If, as is reported by the CDC, the numbers of infected people is as much as 10x higher than what is reported, that means the rates of hospitalizations, deaths, on ventilators, etc, is TEN TIMES OVER-REPORTED.
The extra number of people infected than what is being reported is because they haven't been tested. Which is fair to say.

How on earth do you take that to mean the death toll is 10x less than official numbers? So the US only has around 13k deaths?
 
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I guess I'm the guy your mother warned you about. I older, retired, and refuse to be shamed into wearing a mask or staying home all day long, every day.

As far as testing, why bother? Either you have it, have had it, or you don't. But what does a test tell you? That at the time you were tested you were negative. But you could be tested, be exposed on the way home from being tested, contract the virus and die... all with a negative test. So, there's that.

If, as is reported by the CDC, the numbers of infected people is as much as 10x higher than what is reported, that means the rates of hospitalizations, deaths, on ventilators, etc, is TEN TIMES OVER-REPORTED.

Tired of the scare tactics by the main stream media. Trump rallies and church services are irresponsible gathering and should not be allowed, but riots and marches are ok? Not buying any of that.
But if you test positive you know to self isolate. I think that is why they are trying to encourage those showing symptoms or have been in the vicinity of people who have symptoms to get tested.
 
The extra number of people infected than what is being reported is because they haven't been tested. Which is fair to say.

How on earth do you take that to mean the death toll is 10x less than official numbers? So the US only has around 13k deaths?

Percentage wise... like 0.5% of the infected.
 
One “benefit,” if it could be called that, of all this is the fact that my car has been getting much less use and therefore less wear-and-tear, etc. I still have just over a half a tank of gas and the last time I filled up was back in either the first or second week of March! Amazing....
Just got to remember that cars still need to driven in some sort of regular fashion at least for a bit here and there to keep things lubricated and moving along. There's also some question about gasoline stability over time if it's basically the same gas that mostly sits there for long periods of time (potentially in hotter weather as well, if outside).
 
There's also some question about gasoline stability over time if it's basically the same gas that mostly sits there for long periods of time (potentially in hotter weather as well, if outside).

Yeah, it's the issue with The Walking Dead when they find a car that's been sitting for 2 years and it fires up :D

6 months with the same gas is probably won't harm anything, even though that's a bit long, you have the same gas for 8-12 months, you might be asking for issues.

I've only put about 2000 miles on my car in the last ~11 months, but I at the very least drive it a couple of times a week, even if it's just a 25-30 mile fun drive :)
 
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Oh, I quite agree, C DM and DT! I have driven more this past few weeks than I did during March, April and May, but even then I was still going out to the grocery store. I am also aware that a car sitting too long can damage the tires, too, so that the rubber rots and that is another whole issue, too, on top of the fact that a car not being driven, the battery not being charged up and running the vehicle for a while, can cause problems.

I witnessed the sad deterioration of a neighbor’s car when she became housebound and couldn’t drive her car any more; for a while someone helped her out by driving the vehicle periodically but then they moved....and after that the car sat unused for months, the tires went flat, etc., etc. She had not listened to recommendations that she simply sell the car while it was still in good shape. Eventually she wound up going to a skilled nursing care facility and the car finally WAS sold.....
 
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I guess I'm the guy your mother warned you about. I older, retired, and refuse to be shamed into wearing a mask or staying home all day long, every day.

As far as testing, why bother? Either you have it, have had it, or you don't. But what does a test tell you? That at the time you were tested you were negative. But you could be tested, be exposed on the way home from being tested, contract the virus and die... all with a negative test. So, there's that.

If, as is reported by the CDC, the numbers of infected people is as much as 10x higher than what is reported, that means the rates of hospitalizations, deaths, on ventilators, etc, is TEN TIMES OVER-REPORTED.

Tired of the scare tactics by the main stream media. Trump rallies and church services are irresponsible gathering and should not be allowed, but riots and marches are ok? Not buying any of that.

Americans have moved on hence all the bars, restaurants, hotels, and flights I take with my friends and girlfriend are packed
 
Don’t close it up. This is when it gets interesting. :D

I got tested because where I work, if it were to close due to infection, a vital Food distribution system and marketplace for our state closes. That means Precious food wastes & our state’s farmers, producers & growers (and all of that ancillary economy) doesn’t get paid. Conversely, we distribute to the four corners of the state. If we’re infected, not only do people not eat & precious economy suffer, but we impact the potential spread of the entire state.

I am more skeptical than most about this, none the less, govt would just have us shut everything down which is not acceptable, so we must stay open. Our regional food shed must remain functional.

You want to watch society get ugly - screw the virus, let citizens
starve a little. It gets Real ugly real fast from there. Think about those riots & add a lack of food to that. That is why I’ve worked 5-6 days a week on-site through this entire pandemic to date & is why I got tested (and am awaiting results). If I am sick, my team needs to know it so I can self quarantine, heal but more importantly distro & economic fluidity is maintained & I (or anyone on our team ) don’t give govt an excuse to shut us down. Distribution must be maintained especially to our urban centers. We will not fail.
 
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Lol one my friends said jokingly she wants to meet a guy just incase we have another quarantine so she'll have someone to hangout with other than her roommates who she got annoyed with during the last quarantine

I guess the last quarantine raised singles' awareness :D
 
Americans who claim to stay at home are probably going out the most just like everyone else
Not sure where you're getting your data but I am definitely staying home. Only hit the market every (2) weeks. Most of my neighbors are doing the same. L.A. is a hot spot, especially living so close to Venice Beach. Not worth "probably going out the most". 🤷‍♀️
 
Percentage wise... like 0.5% of the infected.

I've shown why that is not true twice already on Macrumors, would you like me to show it again, or are you just scared of division and percentages and don't want to deal with actual numbers. If you don't wear a mask you can't even come into my place of business even though we currently have about 60% working from home including me 4 out of 5 days a week. Even if we take your death rate as accurate, which is easy to prove its not, that makes it 5X as more dangerous as a bad year of influenza. Are you treating it as such, or not? When American Pro Football and College Football is cancelled this fall (and its going to be), you and everyone else who didn't stay home when you could have, who didn't wear masks and didn't get tested is to blame, pure and simple. We could have knocked the numbers low enough to have a good chance at football this fall, but the NBA testing is showing us how bad the numbers are in the US, and they are going to be worse for football, its absolutely certain. So its great you didn't wear a mask, and you are also part of the problem that is keeping the pandemic bad in the US, congratulations.
-Tig
 
Americans have moved on hence all the bars, restaurants, hotels, and flights I take with my friends and girlfriend are packed

Only you and your silly friends. Also since you and your silly friends are the problem with the pandemic and the reason we will not be getting SEC football this fall, I think you should take down your pro SEC banner. If you aren't smart enough to realize that Bars are literally the worst place to go in a pandemic, you aren't smart enough to realize that every time you go out and don't wear your mask, you are part of the problem that will be cancelling College football this fall. Remember that post between you and I back in May when you said I was crazy saying that Florida and Texas and California were going to get it really bad because they were opening too early. Now that Florida, Texas, California and for that matter 40 states set records this week for number of new cases I think that maybe your governor knew what he was doing theory is kinda out that window. US citizens are banned from the EU (rightly so, I am not complaining about us being banned) I'm complaining about my countrymen feeling free to kill and maim their fellow countrymen with the pandemic because they think its there right to not wear a mask. We have record number of people with the virus and are adding 50K to the total every day. You need to take it a little more seriously then just not going to Starbucks as much.
-Tig
 
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