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Americans have moved on hence all the bars, restaurants, hotels, and flights I take with my friends and girlfriend are packed
Some Americans. Remember your experience isn’t that of everyone in your country. I’m yet to see an American user on here that seems to have the same view of the pandemic as you do. Most seem to have said the complete opposite from what I read. Same as the news that I read. Airlines are not at capacity. Businesses are struggling. People are dying.
 
Only you and your silly friends. Also since you and your silly friends are the problem with the pandemic and the reason we will not be getting SEC football this fall, I think you should take down your pro SEC banner. If you aren't smart enough to realize that Bars are literally the worst place to go in a pandemic, you aren't smart enough to realize that every time you go out and don't wear your mask, you are part of the problem that will be cancelling College football this fall. Remember that post between you and I back in May when you said I was crazy saying that Florida and Texas and California were going to get it really bad because they were opening too early. Now that Florida, Texas, California and for that matter 40 states set records this week for number of new cases I think that maybe your governor knew what he was doing theory is kinda out that window. US citizens are banned from the EU (rightly so, I am not complaining about us being banned) I'm complaining about my countrymen feeling free to kill and maim their fellow countrymen with the pandemic because they think its there right to not wear a mask. We have record number of people with the virus and are adding 50K to the total every day. You need to take it a little more seriously then just not going to Starbucks as much.
-Tig


I don’t think Americans are inconvenienced by the virus anymore except for the mask policy in some areas. Many still don’t wear one but nobody cares. Americans are having fun again like before the virus
 
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I don’t think Americans are inconvenienced by the virus anymore except for the mask policy in some areas. Many still don’t wear one but nobody cares. Americans are having fun again like before the virus
Again you are speaking for all Americans. But I can see so many on here from America that disagree with you. Perhaps you could say some Americans. But thankfully your view is not the view of the majority on here.
 
I don’t think Americans are inconvenienced by the virus anymore except for the mask policy in some areas. Many still don’t wear one but nobody cares. Americans are having fun again like before the virus
Some have that view, many don't. Reality still stays what it is. Seems like we keep on going in circles with the same commentary being repeated.
 
I’ve been doing an intermittent fasting diet for a few weeks now.. and I’m trying to incorporate as much exercise as I can. I’ll come out of quarantine skinnnyyyy 🥳
 
I don’t think Americans are inconvenienced by the virus anymore except for the mask policy in some areas. Many still don’t wear one but nobody cares. Americans are having fun again like before the virus

Wow... such a simple view. Having fun is all that matters to you?

But I’m confused.

You started a thread elsewhere in MR where you stated, and I quote... “I’m PETRIFIED, TERRIFIED” ... of things opening up too soon. You went on to ask... “But what about our health? What do we do?”

Where is your concern now?
 
Wow... such a simple view. Having fun is all that matters to you?

But I’m confused.

You started a thread elsewhere in MR where you stated, and I quote... “I’m PETRIFIED, TERRIFIED” ... of things opening up too soon. You went on to ask... “But what about our health? What do we do?”

Where is your concern now?
You'll wish you never asked. 😂
 
I was home-shopping, so I'd say the biggest change I was set to make was buying gear/equipment (rowing machine, weight bench & weights, heavy punching bag) to get a home gym set up.

I got laid off a week ago Friday (after being furloughed for two months), so that's put everything on hold for now.

(a smaller change is that since I've been away from/out of work for so long, I've found that I don't check my usual tech sites/blogs near as much as I used to)
 
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I've shown why that is not true twice already on Macrumors, would you like me to show it again, or are you just scared of division and percentages and don't want to deal with actual numbers. If you don't wear a mask you can't even come into my place of business even though we currently have about 60% working from home including me 4 out of 5 days a week. Even if we take your death rate as accurate, which is easy to prove its not, that makes it 5X as more dangerous as a bad year of influenza. Are you treating it as such, or not? When American Pro Football and College Football is cancelled this fall (and its going to be), you and everyone else who didn't stay home when you could have, who didn't wear masks and didn't get tested is to blame, pure and simple. We could have knocked the numbers low enough to have a good chance at football this fall, but the NBA testing is showing us how bad the numbers are in the US, and they are going to be worse for football, its absolutely certain. So its great you didn't wear a mask, and you are also part of the problem that is keeping the pandemic bad in the US, congratulations.
-Tig

The math is simple. If the CDC is now saying that 10 times more people have this virus than what is being reported, and the number of hospitalizations and the number of deaths are what they are, then those percentages are 10 times less than is being reported. Why does that confuse you?

Anecdotally, my wife's office of 39 people had TWO women come down with the virus ("tested positive"). Both stayed home with their husbands who cared for them 24/7 during their recovery and quarantine period - feeding them, caring for them, cleaning up after them, etc. Neither husband contracted the virus - both have tested negative TWICE. The other 37 people in the office were all exposed to these ladies for some time as a part of their job functions, yet they, also, continue to test "negative". So, tell me again how contagious COVID is.

But since you say that I am the problem, then it must be so. Sorry to mess up your college football plans - didn't realize that I had the power to stop college/pro sports. Good to know.
 
Watching the scenes in London of packed bars full of people stupid enough to think this virus has gone away makes me angry. I fear we’ll end up like America who started to ignore it and are now paying the price.

My biggest changes are exercising a lot more and not going shopping. Both positives. Meetings are now over Teams or Zoom and my kids no longer go to school. So a mixed bag of positives and negatives.
 
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Watching the scenes in London of packed bars full of people stupid enough to think this virus has gone away makes me angry. I fear we’ll end up like America who started to ignore it and are now paying the price.

My biggest changes are exercising a lot more and not going shopping. Both positives. Meetings are now over Teams or Zoom and my kids no longer go to school. So a mixed bag of positives and negatives.
Annoys me as well. Some people are absolute idiots. I’m expecting yet another rise here in the U.K. because of it. Yes as someone who doesn’t eat or drink out very often, it’s easy for me to stay away. But even if I was more sociable I think I could have a bit more self control. Obviously Boris Johnson (and other world leaders), are concerned about jobs and the economy, but opening things up too soon is ludicrous.
 
Annoys me as well. Some people are absolute idiots. I’m expecting yet another rise here in the U.K. because of it. Yes as someone who doesn’t eat or drink out very often, it’s easy for me to stay away. But even if I was more sociable I think I could have a bit more self control. Obviously Boris Johnson (and other world leaders), are concerned about jobs and the economy, but opening things up too soon is ludicrous.
Or coming down hard on those that take the mick, might make others think before crowding.
 
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This is Soho. I have no words. Photo is from BBC news article.

“Coronavirus: 'Crystal clear' drunk people will not socially distance“

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53296689

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I don’t think Americans are inconvenienced by the virus anymore except for the mask policy in some areas. Many still don’t wear one but nobody cares. Americans are having fun again like before the virus

You keep saying "most Americans" yet you've constantly refused to provide a citation for this.

So, now as per the MR rules for appropriate debate, I'm "formally requesting" that you provide a citation for this claim of "most Americans".

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I don’t think Americans are inconvenienced by the virus anymore except for the mask policy in some areas. Many still don’t wear one but nobody cares. Americans are having fun again like before the virus

The majority of beaches are closed in Florida, California and Texas for the 4th of July, I think acting like that isn't an inconvenience is ludicrous but your mileage apparently varies. They are closing bars across the country as well because bars are shown to be a sources of huge breakouts in multiple cities. The bars closing, plus acting as if restaurants only have 25% or 50% of allowed occupancy even if they are allowed to have people inside is not inconveniencing everyone is silly, and I'm not sure how you can post that with a straight face.
-Tig
 
Knowing you can't just get on a plane and fly anywhere in the world you want. Can't go to a football, basketball, hockey game etc. How about a trip to New York and take in a Broadway show? Nope. What about going with all your friends to a concert to listen to that amazing new album you bought performed live? Sorry, can't do that.

Restrictions on weddings, opening hours, the amount of people allowed in places and distances, seeing people wear masks etc. The list is endless. None of this is normal.

While my day to day life is the same, the amount of things you can't do "normally" will affect me sooner or later. Traveling the main one. And even though I can soon travel to over 50 countries with no quarantine, I don't want to spend a holiday lining up everywhere, wearing a mask and putting up with all these extra rules. That's not fun.

And we all know people who will be affected by these restrictions. It's the uneasy feeling that it will be quite some time before we can all allowed to do whatever we want as we did before that I don't like.

Whether you're someone taking a really cautious approach to this virus, or have a "if I get it, I get it" attitude, none of us are able to fully do as we please.

Life is "trying" to get back to normal, but it is far from it. So anyone saying they see everything back to normal is either in denial or just likes being argumentative and nobody here is buying it.
 
Knowing you can't just get on a plane and fly anywhere in the world you want. Can't go to a football, basketball, hockey game etc. How about a trip to New York and take in a Broadway show? Nope. What about going with all your friends to a concert to listen to that amazing new album you bought performed live? Sorry, can't do that.

Restrictions on weddings, opening hours, the amount of people allowed in places and distances, seeing people wear masks etc. The list is endless. None of this is normal.

While my day to day life is the same, the amount of things you can't do "normally" will affect me sooner or later. Traveling the main one. And even though I can soon travel to over 50 countries with no quarantine, I don't want to spend a holiday lining up everywhere, wearing a mask and putting up with all these extra rules. That's not fun.

And we all know people who will be affected by these restrictions. It's the uneasy feeling that it will be quite some time before we can all allowed to do whatever we want as we did before that I don't like.

Whether you're someone taking a really cautious approach to this virus, or have a "if I get it, I get it" attitude, none of us are able to fully do as we please.

Life is "trying" to get back to normal, but it is far from it. So anyone saying they see everything back to normal is either in denial or just likes being argumentative and nobody here is buying it.
Agreed.
 
Knowing you can't just get on a plane and fly anywhere in the world you want. Can't go to a football, basketball, hockey game etc. How about a trip to New York and take in a Broadway show? Nope. What about going with all your friends to a concert to listen to that amazing new album you bought performed live? Sorry, can't do that.

Restrictions on weddings, opening hours, the amount of people allowed in places and distances, seeing people wear masks etc. The list is endless. None of this is normal.

While my day to day life is the same, the amount of things you can't do "normally" will affect me sooner or later. Traveling the main one. And even though I can soon travel to over 50 countries with no quarantine, I don't want to spend a holiday lining up everywhere, wearing a mask and putting up with all these extra rules. That's not fun.

And we all know people who will be affected by these restrictions. It's the uneasy feeling that it will be quite some time before we can all allowed to do whatever we want as we did before that I don't like.

Whether you're someone taking a really cautious approach to this virus, or have a "if I get it, I get it" attitude, none of us are able to fully do as we please.

Life is "trying" to get back to normal, but it is far from it. So anyone saying they see everything back to normal is either in denial or just likes being argumentative and nobody here is buying it.

This weekend I BBQ’d, celebrated in a packed bar with my friends, and took my girlfriend to a packed restaurant for dinner before going to a firework show. Pretty normal weekend for me
 
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