Not surprised. I’m being sensible and considerate for my fellow man. But that’s not for everyone. Just a matter of priorities I suppose.
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Have you made any notable changes or adjustments in your life post Covid quarantine?
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Just because you, a group of other folk who don't believe in the dangers, all got together, doesn't make it normal.
What it does make is an incredibly dangerous situation.
In fact, your selfishness and your desire to do all this will only serve to prolong the period the country is going to suffer.
The more people do this the more probable it is that those same bars will be shut down again.
And if they do get shut down again then the blame will fall directly on your shoulders and people like you.
Grim reality is that, the more you do this, the greater the chance of a prolonged recession.
Completely missed the point. The point is, people CANNOT do WHATEVER they want like we did before this virus.
Let me know when you can replicate your weekend in EVERY town/city in the US.
I think at this point, it’s pretty clear you‘re just after reactions with all of your contradicting posts and threads. My guess is that you’re actually isolated in a basement somewhere. It all makes sense now in fact.
Since you are on the rant, lets look at the numbers and talk about what they really mean. These are todays numbers for Coronavirus in the US as of this moment (they obviously will be increasing)
Cases: 2,928,701
Recovered: 844,901
Deaths: 132,069
That gives us a death rate of 132,069/2,928,701 or about 4.5% driven by our incredible surge in cases the last two weeks, despite nowhere near that surge in testing. IF the disease stops tonight at midnight, because we find out that a swig of Mt Dew makes it impossible for you to catch it, and we all get a drink, you probably think that death rate would stay at 4.5% but math tells you it wouldn't. The issue is that in the US currently we have 1,951,731 people who have not died or recovered from Corona. That is almost 2 million its over 2/3 of the cases in the US. And the only way for the 4.5% number to be accurate is for none of those almost 2 million people to die of the disease. Everyone who does makes that number grow.
Now get back to your 10x number. For a couple of reasons the CDC believes that the disease is much more widespread then our tests have shown and think we may only be catching 10% of the cases. So instead of approaching 3 million we are really approaching 30 Million cases. Now I know they did this over 1 million cases in the US ago, but you want to act like it accurate today so we'll play your game. So first of all 30 million cases is just under 10% of the US population, so that is fairly hard to believe. It also gets a little silly when you basically are implying with your take on the numbers not only are the 1,951,731 all going to recover (thats everyone on a respirator now etc), but also that none of the presumed additional 27 Million cases we are adding because of what the CDC said quite awhile ago, died of it either. We know there are lots of Covid deaths not being counted, in my state the only way to get listed as a Covid death is to have tested positive for it before you die (AND RECEIVED THE RESULTS), or if your family pays for an autopsy, which is 6K here in town, I have several friends who have died most likely from Covid, but we never know, because their families have wisely decided not to spend $6,000 to get told they died of Covid. We know March deaths in the US were 6000 higher then the 5 year average, we are blaming right at 2000 to COVID, obviously there is a pretty good chance that alot of the other 4000 were Covid too. I also think its funny that you wrote a whole section about how its not that contagious using your wifes work as an example, all while wanting us to believe that almost 10% of the US population has caught it. Those two things do not compute.
The Pandemic is going to cancel football this year. You are literally bragging that you are not wearing a mask, not getting tested and basically doing whatever you want because its not so bad. So yes, you and the rest of the its my right to go out and try an infect people crew have the power and likely are going to cancel fall sports. Hopefully you don't end up killing people. At some point you might have to be tested for antibodies, when that happens and it shows you had the disease in the past are you going to think about all the times you didnt wear a mask and may have infected people. Why do you refuse to be part of the solution?
-Tig
**OP taps fingers on desk desperately waiting for people to start criticising the obvious over the top emphasis on ‘packed’ mentioned twice in the post. Minutes passing like days..... Tumbleweed blowing across a desert road, woosh**
I’m glad I’m not the only one who is well aware of this lol.
Yeah, I’m guilty of playing his game. My ignore list has no names in it currently but that may soon change.
Usually is when they don't care and their desire to have fun overrides the public good.
AKA "Self centered"
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Oddly enough my Ignore list is rather large and could perhaps do with some extreme pruning given that a large number of names on it are now inactive accounts 🤔
Thats a change I forgot to mention- I do wash my hands more. I was at Home Depot the other day and picked up a bottle of hand sanitizer on my way out
Soaring U.S. coronavirus cases, hospitalizations overshadow July 4 celebrations
Rising coronavirus cases in 39 U.S. states cast a shadow over the nation's Fourth of July celebrations as health experts worried that holiday parties will cause a further spike in infections that could overwhelm hospitals.
In the first four days of July alone, 15 states reported record increases in new cases of COVID-19, which has infected nearly 3 million Americans and killed about 130,000, according to a Reuters tally.
When it says record, it's saying that these numbers are higher than they've ever been before. That means that is now worse now than it was before or during the lockdown.
How can you say with a straight face that is now "normal" again?
That’s the most sensible post I’ve read of yours. Hopefully we are all washing our hands more. Even without an
watch!
Believe what you want. I believe what I believe to be true.
Clearly, there is no point to continuing this stand-off. And it's not worth the time-out or the ban.
Sadly for those who listen to the medical specialists, all we see are people who ignore the facts are going to only cause the rest of us to suffer.
Dunno about anyone else, but I'd take my advice from a group of medical specialists over any politician...
One thing I did change during shelter in place, was return to growing some of my own vegetables. Man, I forgot just how delicious home grown tomatoes can be! It's been fun sharing my excess veggies with neighbors, all pesticide free. 😊
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This is the first year ever where the front yard had been watered almost daily.
Previously I'd leave the house at 4am and not get back home until past 6pm.
Now I get the chance (and opportunity) to do the watering at 8am before the daily team meeting.
Previously I'd leave the house at 4am and not get back home until past 6pm.
Now I get the chance (and opportunity) to do the watering at 8am before the daily team meeting.
What do you believe to be true?
Its hardly contagious at all (ie the example with your wife), or its incredibly contagious (ie 10% of the US population have it)?
I mean do you think Coronavirus cases are going in the right direction, we should be excited with 50K+ new cases a day?
Or are you like those flat earthers or NASA deniers that I am often disagree with on here that are sure all the data is wrong?
I mean there isn't alot of room for belief here, its not a religion, Coronavirus is the #1 killer in the US for April, May and June, with the July numbers already terrible and we have 26 more days to go. Do you not believe the people have died? Do you not believe people are going to continue to die? Are the numbers in your state not going in the wrong direction? Do you believe its caused by the 5G antennas?
Of all the responses I thought I might get to my message, paraphrasing Popeye was not what I was expecting.
-Tig
Has anyone ever been convicted of murder (revised) or manslaughter due to spreading a virus? I mean how do you prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt? The insinuation that non-face maskers are murderers is really stretching it.
I mean the sentiment is not lost on me- I get it but at the end of the day we all know that the virus is doing the killing, not any one of us.
Right now no face mask wearing in my neck of the woods Public spaces comes with a $100 fine and for business it’s five $1000 infractions and you’re shut down indefinitely.
We often talk about our words being important & IMO this discussion is no different.
The inherent risk in life Often bubbles up in my head and our personal responsibility (Our social contract) to eachother. To me, This starts and ends with our local, state & federal laws, so if our local big heads mandate mask wearing during a time of crisis and it is supported by our constitution (which it is) as part of our social contract to eachother ie: the law, It is our duty to wear them.
That being said (Scary thought time) when a mandate is supported by law, does it change that dynamic? Does it take ones inaction and turn it towards reckless endangerment or something like that - or worse as has been insinuated above?
Truthfully a scary thought if you ask me. I cannot in good conscience make that Intellectual stretch as I accept a higher level of risk Woven into life, but it seems quite a few on here can and do absolutely look at it this way. Not a rabbit hole I would like to go down anyhow.
-a very dystopian, 1984, minority report~ish etc. path of thought.
I mean the sentiment is not lost on me- I get it but at the end of the day we all know that the virus is doing the killing, not any one of us.
Right now no face mask wearing in my neck of the woods Public spaces comes with a $100 fine and for business it’s five $1000 infractions and you’re shut down indefinitely.
We often talk about our words being important & IMO this discussion is no different.
The inherent risk in life Often bubbles up in my head and our personal responsibility (Our social contract) to eachother. To me, This starts and ends with our local, state & federal laws, so if our local big heads mandate mask wearing during a time of crisis and it is supported by our constitution (which it is) as part of our social contract to eachother ie: the law, It is our duty to wear them.
That being said (Scary thought time) when a mandate is supported by law, does it change that dynamic? Does it take ones inaction and turn it towards reckless endangerment or something like that - or worse as has been insinuated above?
Truthfully a scary thought if you ask me. I cannot in good conscience make that Intellectual stretch as I accept a higher level of risk Woven into life, but it seems quite a few on here can and do absolutely look at it this way. Not a rabbit hole I would like to go down anyhow.
-a very dystopian, 1984, minority report~ish etc. path of thought.
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So, where does this leave things given that nothing is being produced or even acknowledged in any way (even though new replies have been posted since)?
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If something like that is the case, seems like forum rules should be coming into play.
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Two types of tomatoes (Celebrity and Better Boy), yellow squash, green beans, bell peppers, strawberries and persian cucumbers. Oh - almost forgot: about (4) types of lettuce as well.
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From our friend? To be determined.
However I'd like to give him a fair chance to answer first. Perhaps he's busy, Er, "collecting and analyzing" the data prior to delivery.
You'll have to forgive me for my sudden belief in the impossible; I've consumed way too many Moscow Mules tonight to be thinking coherently.
No matter how much blood may be streaming through my alcohol stream though, I'm still acutely aware of the sound of crickets, and the occasional rolling Tumbleweed.
How in the world (rather Christopher Robin and Pooh’s world) can there be two Tiggr’s on this forum? With all the bouncing around, a person might get confuzzled as to which Tiggr is dare I say, real. 
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