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If you are relying on dvds, cdroms, hd-dvds or Blu for archiving valuable info, then think again. One scratch and you can have a frisbee.
Blu-ray (due to its increased bit density) is especially prone to this issue of total unrecoverable failure.
Blu-ray is protected by a hard protective film.
 
the big picture...

New titles ignore VC1 entirely in favor of the much better AVC. Is there a list of MPEG-2 Blu-Ray titles anyway (so I can avoid them)?

I'm sure you can find out a list somewhere but as was pointed out, MPEG-2 can be done well. I think you will see on disc reviews the issues on certain movies and people will criticize how bad they look.

But I don't know a comprehensive site showing a list. You can look in the BR section of titles though at AVS.com. Great site for the whole world of this stuff.
 
New Line is doing a pretty piss poor job being dual format, they may as well just go Blu exclusive.
 
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I never thought HD DVD would catch on due to the name. Too hard to say. Say it five times fast. But I can say Blu-Ray all night long. I got a PS3 recently so I'm happy the war is almost over and the superior format won.
 
Neither formats use closed captioning. They use subtitles, and they work well in both formats over HDMI; it is located in the menu under subtitles usually referred to as English for the hard of hearing.
Some Blu-ray titles come with a descriptive audio option to supplement subtitles.
 
Personally, i bought a hdtv, hd player, and blu-ray player, and am just using netflix. Because I do not have that much invested in the media (the movies), i can just replace the hardware when there is a standard. Until then, Netflix will continue to be my main source of Blu-Ray and HD DVD movies for my viewing.
Yeah, this is my approach too. This is certainly the winning strategy for now. With no substantial investment in media it's easy to treat the "war" at arm's length, but I'm still able to watch movies in HD.
 
When I heard the announcement about Battle 678 of the Format War going to Blu-Ray, I chuckled to myself.

After literally a year, I can look over to my PS3 and say to it, "See? Microsoft and its XBOX 360 is scum after all!" After that, I went and searched through the 'ol Playstation 2 drawer and found the AV Output cable, and hooked it up to my Bose Surround Sound. Now I'm set to watch movies on my Samsung HDTV 1080p w/ DLP in it and my PS3 hooked up to it for a couple of years now!:D:apple:

Thanks Warner! (Now when will Bugs Bunny be available in Blu-Ray? Because that's my most desired cartoon on my list) :D :apple:
 
I feel I will be the only one who didn't just got super-excited-oh-my-god-oh-my-god here, but well, I hate blu-ray.

because of one thing - regions. DVD has this stupid regions and it is making me mad. Blu-Ray has 3 regions, which is better than six (DVD), but HD-DVD has none. Nothing. No regions at all. Simple.

and last thing I don't get is why you all celebrate Blu-Ray is the winner (I guess the war is nearly over). Is it because Microsoft supported HD-DVD? so what? It doesn't have these stupid regions and that's what I care most.

no i think people just wanted this B.S format war done and over so that we can all make our minds and start using the new technology...
 
Aren't both HD formats still losing to standard DVD's. The majority of people don't even have an HDTV so they don't care about either format. Until HD takes hold across the country this is still really a moot point about who wins.
 
I heard awhile back that HD was winning over BluRay because the porn industry sided with HD, similar to what happened with VHS and Beta when the porn industry went with VHS.

That was a determining factor with VHS. However, a colleague of mine mentioned the other day that all his clients who deal with porn addiction get their porn exclusively online.

I don't think online rental will be real popular in "fly-over" land until broadband is more widespread. My mom lives just north of KC in Dearborn. She just got 1.5Mbps DSL. My sister lives 4 miles further away and has to pay for a KC line so as not to get a large phone bill for dial-up.
 
Man why are there so many PS3 fans here? I don't want to start a commotion but the 360 is my choice for a lot of reasons. The PS3 is a software developing nightmare anyway. This new years news was upsetting for me but hopefully MS will release a blu-ray player if it does end up being the standard.

I thought HD was better quality? That's what the tests showed to the best of my knowledge. Cheaper too.

-RichL
 
This was only true when Blu-ray discs were first released. All current Blu-ray discs utilize proprietary hard-coat technology. This, actually, makes Blu-ray less vulnerable to irreparable damage.

Less vulnerable, but still totally inadequate. I get discs from Netflix all the time that don't run because of scratches.
 
Meh A. It doesn't matter at least it won't soon. B. It took money away from Sony.

I haven't watched a DvD anything in months.
 
VHS vs. BETA.

Until they can find a common medium and can show me why I should get HD I will stick with my std. dev. Thank you very much.
What are you trying to say? Except for Toshiba, all of the CE's support Blu-ray either exclusively or non-exclusively and all studios except Universal and Paramount/Dreamworks support Blu-ray exclusively.

We already have one format and that is Blu-ray.
 
Nothing is really decided until the sales numbers are in. Right now both are losing to sd-dvd.
 
Less vulnerable, but still totally inadequate. I get discs from Netflix all the time that don't run because of scratches.
Dude, people on the net have done tests with steel wool on the Blu-ray coating and the discs played fine. HD DVD does "not" have the coating and is just as vulnerable as DVD to scratches while every blu-ray disc has the coating. Are we on the same page now?
 
Nothing is really decided until the sales numbers are in. Right now both are losing to sd dvd.
What does that have to do with anything? Of course DVD is still selling more just in the same way as VHS was selling more that DVD was at some point. What is your point exactly? Now that the HD media format is over, Blu-ray can take on DVD next just as DVD had to overcome VHS.

I've heard the same rhetoric from HD DVD fanboys over the past few months. Are you sure that you are not an HD DVD supporter?
 
What does that have to do with anything? Of course DVD is still selling more just in the same way as VHS was selling more that DVD was at some point. What is your point exactly? Now that the HD media format is over, Blu-ray can take on DVD next.

I've heard the same rhetoric from HD DVD fanboys over the past few months. Are you sure that you are not an HD DVD supporter?
I don't support either, I don't care either way. I would rather both coexist. We need lower prices, they both would keep prices low. Having only 1 means prices will go up. I want backwards compatibility, Let me play my DVD's on whatever new system comes out. Im not going to replace my whole library when there is nothing wrong with the disks now. Up-conversion is the way to go IMO.
 
I am pleased to read this since I have a PS 3 and have been pleased with the blu movies.

Of course, I think Sony is a bunch of dirt merchants, so I have no love for them. But, Apple is on this team, so I think it's a good bet for me. Plus, Microsoft picking HD-DVD was the final straw.

Sucks to be Toshiba. And once again, Universal is on the wrong team.
 
I don't support either, I don't care either way. I would rather both coexist. We need lower prices, they both would keep prices low. Having only 1 means prices will go up. I want backwards compatibility, Let me play my DVD's on whatever new system comes out. Im not going to replace my whole library when there is nothing wrong with the disks now. Up-conversion is the way to go IMO.

Having only one increases the amount sold as there is no hesitation due to worry of buying a soon to be obsolete format. This, as well as more movies on blu-ray increases their production, which will in turn bring prices down over time. Remember that different blu-ray dvds will sell at different prices to compete with each other as well, not just formats.
 
What's so wrong with Apple supporting both formats?

A cheap duel boot player would solve that problem as well. Both formats can survive and consumers can decide for themselves.
 
The impression that I've gained is that the majority of the public that would be in the market for an HD-DVD or Blu-ray player were waiting for the format war to end before making the investment to purchase. Once consumer confidence has been directed towards the format which will bring the majority of the high definition content to the masses, we should see a dramatic increase in sales.

I'm not entirely sure how there can still be a discussion for the side of HD-DVD at this point. Sure, there is the possibility that the HD-DVD player manufacturers will make attempts at whatever offers and sales that they can muster, but in the end, the player itself means nothing unless you have enjoyable format to watch on said player. Why would anyone in their right mind spend even $1 to purchase a rather large bookend?

In all honesty, I was hoping the format war would last at least another few months. With Blu-ray taking such a huge advantage over HD-DVD, Blu-ray player manufacturers have even less reason to continue to drop the prices at the rate they have been.
 
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