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Yes, I know. What I am saying is that for me, it worked from the very beginning under 1.0 as it is described now -- it attempted to take HR every 10 minutes, but skipped reading/recording every once in a while. I'm guessing that people didn't complain because they didn't get any skipped readings. Then in 1.01, I think the criteria for when it skipped readings got upped too much, and now everyone is complaining. Then someone noticed that they'd forgotten to mention the skipping readings feature in the manual, so they updated the manual. But they could leave the manual as it is, and adjust the motion sensitivity so it doesn't skip readings so frequently.

Ah okay got it. I just don't think the 10 minutes should start over because I check what time it is. It's too sensitive, like you said.
 
Ah okay got it. I just don't think the 10 minutes should start over because I check what time it is. It's too sensitive, like you said.

+1 on it being too sensitive. I was working on a paper last night and was typing for over an hour, and it didn't take my HR once while I was working. You wouldn't think the almost-nonexistent motion of moving my wrist while typing would be enough to prevent taking an HR, but apparently it is.
 
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Been contemplating updating to 1.0.1, I use the HR tracker mainly for exercise and always have the activity app on when doing exercise purposefully like going to the gym or going on a hike. So if I have the activity app on I shouldn't see a difference in recording data, to record my resting heart rate I could just activate the glance to record my HR when I wake up, no? I'll still get my movement credit for walking and other basic things, even if HR isn't recorded because that's simply movement based, right? Is the problem that everyone is having that it essentially went from automatic to manual? We all want the features of watchOS 2 so we'll have to deal with this sooner or later, might as well learn how to compensate. Thanks for the help.
 
Been contemplating updating to 1.0.1, I use the HR tracker mainly for exercise and always have the activity app on when doing exercise purposefully like going to the gym or going on a hike. So if I have the activity app on I shouldn't see a difference in recording data, to record my resting heart rate I could just activate the glance to record my HR when I wake up, no? I'll still get my movement credit for walking and other basic things, even if HR isn't recorded because that's simply movement based, right? Is the problem that everyone is having that it essentially went from automatic to manual? We all want the features of watchOS 2 so we'll have to deal with this sooner or later, might as well learn how to compensate. Thanks for the help.

Calorie counting is less accurate. It would use your heart rate every 10 minutes to figure out your active calorie burn. Now it's based solely on arm movement and steps.
 
Calorie counting is less accurate. It would use your heart rate every 10 minutes to figure out your active calorie burn. Now it's based solely on arm movement and steps.
most of my active calories were coming from activity app activities so I don't think it's gonna mess me up that much. Are the improvements on the software update worth it? As an overweight person I've lost 15lbs so far in a month of having the watch, just don't want to lose that momentum. Sounds like if anything it'll be harder to achieve the goals which could be a good thing.
 
most of my active calories were coming from activity app activities so I don't think it's gonna mess me up that much. Are the improvements on the software update worth it? As an overweight person I've lost 15lbs so far in a month of having the watch, just don't want to lose that momentum. Sounds like if anything it'll be harder to achieve the goals which could be a good thing.

The update is small IMO. It didn't do much but make the "stand" goal easier. It takes less movement to trigger the number to increase. The watch is still motivating me to exercise daily and to fill my rings. The exercise/calorie takes a little more effort to fill up, which is a good thing like you said, it pushes me to work harder.
 
most of my active calories were coming from activity app activities so I don't think it's gonna mess me up that much. Are the improvements on the software update worth it? As an overweight person I've lost 15lbs so far in a month of having the watch, just don't want to lose that momentum. Sounds like if anything it'll be harder to achieve the goals which could be a good thing.

Good for you on the weight loss and I hear you, don't want to lose the momentum once you've got it! I wish I hadn't done the update. I was having no issues before, and now am having issues with the activity tracker. If I'm not using the Workout app, then I get absolutely no minutes recorded on the exercise ring, no matter what I'm doing. I don't think steps are counting as accurately either, or calories. If everything is working for you, don't do the upgrade IMHO.
 
thank you for the opinions! Im leaning back towards not doing the update. Like susan12369 said, I'm not having any problems or complaints I just want to update because of early adopter/update syndrome. I'll deal with it when OS2 rolls around and maybe Apple will give us more options by then. Thanks for talking me off the ledge!
 
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Just got off the phone with :apple: rep who said that the engineering department is aware of the issues with activity tracking, steps, and calories being unstable, and that those issues will be resolved in the next update. I didn't bring the HR into the conversation because really I just want it to track activity like it should. I did tell him that so far I hadn't heard anything about this update addressing the activity tracking issues, so I was a bit doubtful about what he's saying but I guess time will tell...
 
Just got off the phone with :apple: rep who said that the engineering department is aware of the issues with activity tracking, steps, and calories being unstable, and that those issues will be resolved in the next update. I didn't bring the HR into the conversation because really I just want it to track activity like it should. I did tell him that so far I hadn't heard anything about this update addressing the activity tracking issues, so I was a bit doubtful about what he's saying but I guess time will tell...
I'm not holding my breath but that would be great news because my calories are a mess.
 
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I'm not holding my breath but that would be great news because my calories are a mess.

Yup, totally agree. I did just hear from a second rep who said basically the same thing, "this is apparently something that Apple has become aware of and are working to correct."
 
UPDATE!

After 2 weeks or so since I called Apple Support (I have the AppleCare+) and several conversations with the customer service rep and sending them multiple screenshots and diagnostic data dumps, they are sending me a new Watch this week.

My problem has been that sometimes it takes NO readings during a workout or only very sporadic ones. They questioned me very thoroughly as to whether I abused, broke or modified the watch to cause this problem. I guess they finally believe me but they did put me through the 3rd degree. These problems coincide after the watch software update, but it could be a failure of the sensors. I have noticed times even in the HR glance that it can't get a reading. The back of the watch is clean, has good contact with my skin, it is not loose and I don't have tattoos.

We'll see what happens when the new one gets here.
 
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I am not trying to hijack the thread :)
I have noticed that my heart rate during exercise is recorded about every 5-15 seconds. Which I thoroughly enjoy! During non-exercise periods, it mimics most others with anywhere from 10-60 minutes between readings (sometimes several hours)
However, when going to my dashboard in health, I notice that there is 0 activity under "resting calories". When I go to "Share Data" there are no data sources. Everything else with health app is working fine, and the watch will show resting calories during a workout and a few minutes afterwards on the workout summary, but the dashboard shows no resting calories during the work day or while sitting around watching TV. Other than that I love this thing!
 
According to Apple there is nothing to fix - it’s by design, so don’t hold your breath.
This.. I've just learned to live with it. I'm hoping Apple will do right by launch day owners and apologize for the bait and switch. But I'm not holding my breath.
 
Or, maybe Apple will realize that they made a foolish design mistake and revert back to the state-of-market approach.
 
According to Apple there is nothing to fix - it’s by design, so don’t hold your breath.

Except that it is still by design for it to track all of your movement, and after the heart rate updates many of us are not seeing accurate tracking. We should expect them to fix that, since they're still touting that "it all counts. It all adds up." Whether they need to adjust the heart rate monitor to make that work properly or what, I don't know, but I don't believe we should have to live with it working inaccurately and the reps I've spoken with agree and said that they are working to correct it.
 
Maybe the marketing and competitive responses will drive Apple to get this and a few other things right about fitness tracking. According to Bloomberg, Fitbit is outselling the Apple Watch. The article goes on to say that the two products do not really overlap or directly compete. But, Fitbit is the industry giant for fitness tracking, and it really gets the implementation right, in my humble opinion.

I can see Fitbit and the other tertiary challengers (Pebble, Microsoft, Jawbone, Garmin, and Samsung) attacking the AW as an immature, basic, fitness tracker. Apple will have to respond by trying to reach the state of the market. Otherwise, they will be vulnerable if Fitbit releases an attractive smart watch that is a little cheaper than the AW, because Fitbit has a massive user community and their product would be compatible with all phone products.

So, let's root for Fitbit, because that will push Apple to improve the AW.
 
Maybe the marketing and competitive responses will drive Apple to get this and a few other things right about fitness tracking. According to Bloomberg, Fitbit is outselling the Apple Watch. The article goes on to say that the two products do not really overlap or directly compete. But, Fitbit is the industry giant for fitness tracking, and it really gets the implementation right, in my humble opinion.

I can see Fitbit and the other tertiary challengers (Pebble, Microsoft, Jawbone, Garmin, and Samsung) attacking the AW as an immature, basic, fitness tracker. Apple will have to respond by trying to reach the state of the market. Otherwise, they will be vulnerable if Fitbit releases an attractive smart watch that is a little cheaper than the AW, because Fitbit has a massive user community and their product would be compatible with all phone products.

So, let's root for Fitbit, because that will push Apple to improve the AW.

I wear the FitBit Surge daily and it does my HR almost anyway I wear it. It's app give you all kinds of graphs and additional information. My runs are automatically mapped for me to see and return to.

The Surge is more a dedicated fitness device while I think Apple's watch does a lot well the fitness function and app has much to be improved on. I am sure Apple will!
 
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