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Can’t you let your app in the Apple App Store, and just switch to the €0,50 / 17% / 10% model and use your own payment system to avoid paying the commission?
No. If I am reading the terms right, 17% commission applies even if you process transactions outside App Store.

Only way to get rid of this is to set up your own store and pull your app from Apple App Store.

Sounds like for most it would not make sense to agree to alternative EU terms even if you are in EU.

Brilliant. Let’s see if Apple will win the inevitable court challenges.
 
There is you want to build an app that Apple wouldn't approve for their App store. For example, I would like to see a Bash terminal app where I can fully utilize Brew.
Then again, you would need to offload the cost of tech fees to users somehow and thus likely there will not be fully free apps outside Apple App Store (in now permitted alternative app stores).
 
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I'd advise that you take a gander into the open-source world.
Point was that few open source devs want to pay tech fees required for distributing their free apps outside Apple App Store.

Only free distribution channel is Apple App Store. And it imposes all kinds of restrictions there.

Tricky situation IMO.
 
My iCloud account is also from the US while my AppStore ID is Germany and I am also in Germany. Will be curious how / if it will work. I am not willing to change my iCloud account to Germany after 20 years
I get it, it would quite the pain to do so
 
I get it, it would quite the pain to do so
This has always been a pain. Apple does not offer any way to merge accounts or move apps from store to store.

Luckily the allow having apps installed from multiple accounts in one device (I have three accounts), but it is still a hassle.
 
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My statement meant: Fully free apps distributed for iOS outside of Apple App Store using alternative app stores in EU.
If this is indeed the case, and it’s not possible (which it looks like) then Apple has badly (purposely?) missed the entire point of what people want. Maybe it fits in the the regulations though, I don’t know. Whatever the case is, Apple seem to be (again, purposely?) out of touch with the mood.
 
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If this is indeed the case, and it’s not possible (which it looks like) then Apple has badly (purposely?) missed the entire point of what people want. Maybe it fits in the the regulations though, I don’t know. Whatever the case is, Apple seem to be (again, purposely?) out of touch with the mood.
What percentage of people even know what's going on let alone what more app stores on their phone?
 
Brilliant. Let’s see if Apple will win the inevitable court challenges.
If the EU says it's fine under the DMA then they have no legal route. The whole thing is market cap based. Over the cap, the DMA applies. So approval under the DMA = no court challenges. That was the point of legislating the DMA. Apple wasn't really violating any laws which is why no one had much success suing in court. I guess you could go to court to try and say the DMA itself is somehow illegal.
 
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Open source companies still need to make money and the successful ones do.

I wrote a couple open-source utilities, released under the BSD license, in college that got popular, and one had well over a million users. I never made a penny, nor requested a penny. I wrote it because I needed it, and other people decided they did too.

They are long gone now, and I don't code anymore outside of a little python, nor even work in tech, but I still have some ideas that I would like to implement. None would pass app-store muster.. I wouldn't ask for compensation, or even accept it.
 
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It is nice for Apple to finally admit that it feels its users outside of the EU cannot decide for themselves whether to take the risk of of downloading third party apps … on iOS. Weird that they allow us to do it on the more expensive Macs though?
 
If you ask most iPhone users they don't care about a 3rd party store. And those who do want this kind of thing, can buy an Android phone. This is an example of over-regulation from the EU.
While working an Apple store was when a parent or grand parent came in and their smart kid or grand kid jail broke their phone and now they were having issues. I’m not saying it the sam Thing is going to happen but there will be a level of complexity for the majority of older folks. I think it will be exciting to watch, in a sinister way
 
Many do, many don’t. But clearly you don’t understand the open source philosophy, based on this comment.
Being a dev that only works with open source software, I fully understand open source. And open source companies can be nonprofit and if they are they don't have to pay the tech fee.
 
It is nice for Apple to finally admit that it feels its users outside of the EU cannot decide for themselves whether to take the risk of of downloading third party apps … on iOS. Weird that they allow us to do it on the more expensive Macs though?
It's not weird. It's because desktop computing started in the 1970s before digital stores existed. As a result, consumers and businesses have a legacy expectation for how software distribution on that platform works.
 
Then you have to pay, if you app goes over 1 million downloads. What app with over 1 millions downloads doesn't make money? There isn't any free lunches.
These two comments don’t match up then.
Being a dev that only works with open source software, I fully understand open source. And open source companies can be nonprofit and if they are they don't have to pay the tech fee.
Anyone can make free(libre) and open software for every single other mainstream os except iOS.
 
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