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Nope. Sony announced that the non-disc version of the PS5 was already turning a profit during the first year of release.
Yes, at the end of the first year, and only the disc version as you already pointed out.
How popular is that one vs the disc version again?

And in total, are they on profit terms with their consoles now?

The whole thing is like saying "only few devices are affected" (guess which company loves to use that phrase) but it legally amounting to everything below 49.9%.
 
This has always been a pain. Apple does not offer any way to merge accounts or move apps from store to store.

Luckily the allow having apps installed from multiple accounts in one device (I have three accounts), but it is still a hassle.

It used to be so much easier to use both a Finnish and US app stores, but that has become quite difficult in recent years
 
These two comments don’t match up then.

Anyone can make free(libre) and open software for every single other mainstream os except iOS.
They don't match up because I am talking about for profit businesses, you brought up open source. OS is a whole different animal. And if you are truly a not for profit company doing OS you can do it for free under the new terms in the EU as only as you are registered as a nonprofit.
 
Yes, at the end of the first year, and only the disc version as you already pointed out.
How popular is that one vs the disc version again?

And in total, are they on profit terms with their consoles now?

The whole thing is like saying "only few devices are affected" (guess which company loves to use that phrase) but it legally amounting to everything below 49.9%.
Nope. Sony makes a net profit from PS5 hardware sales.

"Sony is still selling its current PlayStation 5 console family at a profit, but total financial gains from console sales have 'deteriorated' over time. Why is that? Sony management explains."

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"In a recent report to investors, Sony Group Corp management explains that part of this operating income performance is because PlayStation hardware profitability has "deteriorated," or lowered, over time."


Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/9433...ps5-profitability-has-deteriorated/index.html

In other words, their profit was HIGHER on PS5 hardware previously because the value of the yen was higher.
 
They don't match up because I am talking about for profit businesses, you brought up open source. OS is a whole different animal. And if you are truly a not for profit company doing OS you can do it for free under the new terms in the EU as only as you are registered as a nonprofit.

I don't know about EU countries, but it's quite complicated and fairly pricy, to register as a non-profit in the US. It wouldn't be feasible for a sole-proprietor. Small organizations almost always need a pro-bono attorney to help.

I'm employed by, and have worked with, not-for-profit (501c3) organizations for years.
 
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I don't know about EU countries, but it's quite complicated and fairly pricy, to register as a non-profit in the US. It wouldn't be feasible for a sole-proprietor. Small organizations almost always need a pro-bono attorney to help.

I'm employed by, and have worked with, not-for-profit (501c3) organizations for years.
You can start a 501(3)(c) in the US for less than $500 and it takes about 30-60 days to get your status proved by the IRS. How do I know I done it twice for two different group I'm a member.

Fees/process:
File with your states SOS for your name; fee ~$100
File for you EIN; free
File your 1023-ez with IRS: fee ~$350
Wait for letter from IRS.
 
Apple is going to war with the EU.

Their point was, Apple was considered a gatekeeper. The way they worked around third party stores still makes them the gatekeeper of apps on iOS.

I'm sure Epic will make everything on their hands to dissolve that.
 
Apple is going to war with the EU.

Their point was, Apple was considered a gatekeeper. The way they worked around third party stores still makes them the gatekeeper of apps on iOS.

I'm sure Epic will make everything on their hands to dissolve that.
That is assuming Apple didn't met with regulators to go over all this before it was announced.
 
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Their point was, Apple was considered a gatekeeper. The way they worked around third party stores still makes them the gatekeeper of apps on iOS.
Of course they're still a gatekeeper. The goal of the DMA was to provide a new layer of regulation for gatekeepers over a certain market cap. It wasn't to eliminate gatekeepers.
 
Their point was, Apple was considered a gatekeeper. The way they worked around third party stores still makes them the gatekeeper of apps on iOS.
They prefer being designated as gatekeeper rather than allowing standard sideloading.
It also largely wouldn't change based on their market share, user numbers etc.
 
They prefer being designated as gatekeeper rather than allowing standard sideloading.
It also largely wouldn't change based on their market share, user numbers etc.

From Tech Crunch:

Article 6(12) of the DMA states:
The gatekeeper shall apply fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory general conditions of access for business users to its software application stores, online search engines and online social networking services listed in the designation decision pursuant to Article 3(9).
So Apple will need to make the case that the structure it’s devised here is “fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory” if it’s to avoid falling foul of the DMA.


Like I said, they'll have to fight for it I'm sure.
 
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Nope. Sony makes a net profit from PS5 hardware sales.

"Sony is still selling its current PlayStation 5 console family at a profit, but total financial gains from console sales have 'deteriorated' over time. Why is that? Sony management explains."

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"In a recent report to investors, Sony Group Corp management explains that part of this operating income performance is because PlayStation hardware profitability has "deteriorated," or lowered, over time."


Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/news/9433...ps5-profitability-has-deteriorated/index.html

In other words, their profit was HIGHER on PS5 hardware previously because the value of the yen was higher.
And at launch Sony was taking a loss. This just goes to show that the console manufacturers bounce around between modest losses and modest profits. A business model that is not at all like Apple’s, who makes money hand over fist on their hardware.

 
Will the edition of alternate browser engines mean that we could use Chrome extensions on our iPhones at some point (assuming, as I am, that eventually this capability will be available to US users)?
 
Will the edition of alternate browser engines mean that we could use Chrome extensions on our iPhones at some point (assuming, as I am, that eventually this capability will be available to US users)?
It would enable the technical requirements. Not sure though if they want that on mobile. Managing extensions on an iPhone, ugh, that could take some time to adjust all of them to mobile dimensions.
 
And at launch Sony was taking a loss. This just goes to show that the console manufacturers bounce around between modest losses and modest profits. A business model that is not at all like Apple’s, who makes money hand over fist on their hardware.

Of course it's not the same. Apple is expected to release new iPhone hardware every year. Sony is not expected to release a new console every year. The R&D cycle isn't remotely similar.
 
Of course it's not the same. Apple is expected to release new iPhone hardware every year. Sony is not expected to release a new console every year. The R&D cycle isn't remotely similar.
You're right, they aren't similar. New consoles are typically from the ground up affairs. These days new iPhones are simply iterations involving modest improvements to what's already there. What amazing new stuff did we get in the 15 Pro that wasn't in the 14 Pro?
 
While working an Apple store was when a parent or grand parent came in and their smart kid or grand kid jail broke their phone and now they were having issues. I’m not saying it the sam Thing is going to happen but there will be a level of complexity for the majority of older folks. I think it will be exciting to watch, in a sinister way
Not just older folks. News article recently stated the younger generations are the most scammed And couldn’t fix a PC to save themselves. I can get what o need from Apples App store if it’s not their I don’t need it.
 
You need an address and a card to set up an Apple ID if I’m not mistaken. These have to be relevent to the country you’re in. Edit* At least for downloading apps. And I assume the same thing would apply to alternate stores.
In the past I’ve used a London Tube station address and a random on in Wien to get the 12 days of Christmas offers in those countries. No need for a gift card or CC.

And at launch Sony was taking a loss. This just goes to show that the console manufacturers bounce around between modest losses and modest profits. A business model that is not at all like Apple’s, who makes money hand over fist on their hardware.
It depends on the accounting. It’s not unusual for early sales to be at a loss because the product is priced based on anticipated sales numbers. If those are hit it becomes profitable, even with the earlier losses.
 
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