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So my late 13 retina MBP is now obsolete and they aren’t offering me a replacement... great!
 
Sigh. Apple continues to not support my 11” MBA without offering a replacement.
 
Anybody wanna explain to me why Late 2013 and Mid 2014 macbook pro’s are out? I mean, at least for 15”, from Late-2013 to Mid-2015 it’s pretty much the same friggin device. At least the IGP models….
Methinks Apple was waiting for the earliest opportunity to dump the Nvidea graphic drivers. For marketing convenience all 2014 laptops then got axed rather than only MBP11,3.

What I can't figure out is why the Late 2014 and Mid 2015 iMac got cut. That was really aggressive!
 
It was still sold as new until 2019 and the release of the new Mac Pro 2019.
If you bought one in 2019 with AC+ then you are still under Apple warranty. It wouldn’t make sense for them to discontinue support for it for a long time.

Also like you noted they are still selling refurb models.
Yep. Two of mine still have AppleCare+ into 2023.
 
What I can't figure out is why the Late 2014 and Mid 2015 iMac got cut. That was really aggressive!
Yep it was an aggressive (and greedy) move for sure. The Late 2014 model I had could run Monterey perfectly fine if given the chance I'm sure. And I suspect it would be the best machine to make use of whatever Monterey patcher becomes available.
 
They definitely want people to move fast to Apple Silicon Macs…

Do the Apple Silicon Macs have the same problem with battery swelling? My mid-2015 Macbook Pro might be just starting to show signs of that problem, if Apple has not made any changes related to this, I'm not buying a 2021 Macbook of any kind.
 
I just love that people are actually complaining that their 7 and 8 year old Macs aren't getting updated. Come on people, your old Mac will still work fine for years to come, it just won't get the new shiny stuff. And if you're running 7+ year old gear, how important is new shiny stuff to you?
 
RIP my Late 2013 MBP. Let see what future brings, M2 or something like that.
 
This is worth keeping in mind at my computer tech job for when I get more Mac laptops to wipe and install a MacOS onto. I recently made a couple of Big Sur installer thumb drives to use on such compatible Macs.
As for my own Macs, since I only got this M1 MacBook Air two months ago new in the box I should be all set on MacOS updates for at least seven years. (And then next year I plan to buy an M1X (or whatever it's called) Mac Mini desktop or the rumored Mac Pro Cube to replace my 2012 i7 Mac Mini.)
 


macOS Monterey Compatible With drops support for some MacBook Air and iMac models compared to macOS Big Sur.

macos-monterey.jpg

A full compatibility list is below:
  • iMac - Late 2015 and later
  • iMac Pro - 2017 and later
  • MacBook Air - Early 2015 and later
  • MacBook Pro - Early 2015 and later
  • Mac Pro - Late 2013 and later
  • Mac mini - Late 2014 and later
  • MacBook - Early 2016 and later
These are the Macs that were compatible with macOS Big Sur:
  • 2015 and later MacBook
  • 2013 and later MacBook Air
  • Late 2013 and later MacBook Pro
  • 2014 and later iMac
  • 2017 and later iMac Pro
  • 2014 and later Mac mini
  • 2013 and later Mac Pro
macOS 12 Monterey drops support for some MacBook Air and iMac models compared to macOS Big Sur. The new update is available to developers at the current time, with Apple planning to make a public beta available in July.

Article Link: Here Are All the Macs Compatible With macOS Monterey


So I have about 4 years left of MacOS compatibility on my 2019 27" 5k 8-core iMac. Great investment... :rolleyes:
 


macOS Monterey Compatible With drops support for some MacBook Air and iMac models compared to macOS Big Sur.

macos-monterey.jpg

A full compatibility list is below:
  • iMac - Late 2015 and later
  • iMac Pro - 2017 and later
  • MacBook Air - Early 2015 and later
  • MacBook Pro - Early 2015 and later
  • Mac Pro - Late 2013 and later
  • Mac mini - Late 2014 and later
  • MacBook - Early 2016 and later
These are the Macs that were compatible with macOS Big Sur:
  • 2015 and later MacBook
  • 2013 and later MacBook Air
  • Late 2013 and later MacBook Pro
  • 2014 and later iMac
  • 2017 and later iMac Pro
  • 2014 and later Mac mini
  • 2013 and later Mac Pro
macOS 12 Monterey drops support for some MacBook Air and iMac models compared to macOS Big Sur. The new update is available to developers at the current time, with Apple planning to make a public beta available in July.

Article Link: Here Are All the Macs Compatible With macOS Monterey
I think they could have kept the 2015 Macbook for one more year.
 
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What I find extremely interesting is that my Mid-2012 rMBP runs really well on Windows 10, and limps along on Catalina. Apple really needs to stop bloating the software with gimmicks and focus on optimization.
 
So I have about 4 years left of MacOS compatibility on my 2019 27" 5k 8-core iMac. Great investment... :rolleyes:

No one knows how long Apple will release new versions of Mac OS with dual binary support for Intel, but I doubt you will get 4 more years of new OS releases. I would only count on a couple of new releases after Monterey. With security updates for a couple of more years after that. Apple will want to move away from dual binary as soon as they can. Last transition Apple only sold one further version of OSX with PowerPC support after the initial release. The gap between releases was about every 2 years back then.
 
I don't think there's any guarantee but ain't they still selling the series 3?

This is from Apple's website:

watchOS 8 compatibility.​

  • watchOS 8 requires iPhone 6s or later with iOS 14 or later and one of the following Apple Watch models:
  • Apple Watch Series 3
  • Apple Watch Series 4
  • Apple Watch Series 5
  • Apple Watch SE
  • Apple Watch Series 6
  • Not all features are available on all devices.
 
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It was a good run my beloved 2014 5k iMac. Yet I’m a little surprised that my lowly 2014 Mac Mini edged it out though. I don’t get how Apple decides these things at all.
It's really not that difficult. Instead of dating Apple kit from when it first went on sale, you need to look when Apple stopped selling it before counting down the clock. The lowly 2014 Mac Mini was sold well into 2018 whereas your 2014 iMac quickly gave way for a better model. In other words, the 2014 Mac Mini is also the 2018 Mac Mini.
 
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