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Well, I've had each iteration from day one. With the originals, people/strangers would stop and ask me about them pretty frequently: how's the music quality? Do they hurt your ears? Do they fall out? Once I told them how much I loved them virtually every person said "that's cool, I'm going to buy them". But, you and I are each probably speaking from our own, singular experiences. Time will tell how right/wrong we are.
I still remember the last time I had just gotten a new iPhone and someone saw it and was all "Whoah, you got the new iPhone! Can I see it? It's so cool and sleek looking!"

That was the iPhone 5. It took a few years but eventually iPhones became boring. AirPods became boring too.

I bet it will take a while for the AVP to become boring, but it will, and there will be competitors. It's only a matter of time before the tech gets cheap and small enough that you'll randomly see people walking around with AR/VR goggles.

It will happen. I likely won't be one of them, at least not in public.
 
I don’t think Steve Jobs would let this pass as an Apple product.

For AR/VR technology to be truly revolutionary you need to be able to touch the 3D objects in front of you. The VR inputs are just extremely bad and unintuitive to use for most people. The combination of using of your eyes, weird gestures and voice commands is just not very practical. I think until we can have full control of the 3D environment with our hands just like multi touch worked for iPhone, AR/VR is just going to be a niche product for tech enthusiasts.

I feel actually sad that Apple can’t see this. It just shows that without Steve Jobs they have no direction. Steve Jobs would never enter into a new category of products if it didn’t make sense to deliver the best possible solution for people. Apple didn’t need a VR/AR headset right now. They have enough money without it. The technology is just not as mature as it needs to be. It doesn’t matter how good the screen looks or how well it fits.

It’s all about the input when it comes to AR/VR replacing computers. We’re not there yet, but hopefully they’ll realize this.
Or you could actually wait and try it before making such definitive statements about an experience nobody has used.
 
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I was not expecting to be as impressed as I was. If Apple is able to deliver on this in 6 months, I'll gladly pick one up.
 
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I think the price is justified, considering it replaces your Macbook/iMac, iPhone, iPad, and even your big screen TV. I won't pay $3500 to beta test the device however. Call me in 2 years when it's down to $2K and the bugs are ironed out.
Why do you repeat Apple's nonsense about this replacing all these devices? How can this replace a big screen TV - except for people who live alone and never have anyone over? Why would one of its main selling points be integration with the other iDevices and Macs, if it can replace them? Will you be walking around with this on your head whenever you're outside as you currently do with your iPhone? Even if you were dorky enough to say 'yes', you won't be doing it for more than 2 hours as that's how long that battery lasts.

Some future version of this will be great. This is DOA. I can't think of anyone who'll buy this except for status seeking folks with money to burn. But that's not enough folks to make it enticing to developers - so even developers might not buy this thing. And no developers, no apps. No apps, no increased usefulness over time that'll help people to buy it when it shrinks to reasonable dimensions and price.

This thing, as is, needs a killer app. Otherwise it needs a couple more years and sell as AR glasses instead of ugly ski goggles.
 
only the friendliest most optimistic personalities get first tests.

If Apple sends them an early review unit, it would have to spontaneously combust and burn down their desk before they’d say ”promising but not ready for prime time.”

Not that I blame them. If one of these showed up at my door I would never say anything bad about Apple ever again.
 
Just in case people were wondering about the 2-hour battery life. It's 2-hour of battery use and unlimited use when plugged in to an outlet. Also, the price point reminds me of what Apple did with the iPhone 1. It was $600 which was overpriced compared to other "smartphones" that were available at the time. Eventually, other companies caught up to to that price point making the iPhone 3GS look like a deal. We'll just have to wait and see how this pans out. I'll hold my breath.
 

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I am sitting this one out as its new & first gen, to see how sales goes.

As for physical well being, i am worried about my peepers and motion sickness when scrolling fast.

It also might be an investment to buy one and keep it sealed for the future.
 
The first places to be wearing this will be your living room. It’s not as weird. You’re not going to walk around outside wearing this.

That’s why most of the scenes in the demo were done on the couch 🛋️.

And I think it will be adopted fairly well in work places too.
I would love it for some of my video calls for work, but not, I think, enough yet to ask my boss to buy something bulky, expensive relative to the cameras and monitors our IT dept already buys in huge quantities (and which we all still need anyway), and possibly irritating to people for literally everyone on the team to wear in meetings. Eventually, in a couple generations of the device though, smaller, thinner, more like glasses, I can see that happening.

I am considering requesting one to have a big monitor while traveling for work though :)
 
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Just in case people were wondering about the 2-hour battery life. It's 2-hour of battery use and unlimited use when plugged in to an outlet.

It's full of humans who believe in batteries.

Finally we will return to cables, a humanity attached to cables: the dream of every millennial that is realised.
 
Why do you repeat Apple's nonsense about this replacing all these devices? How can this replace a big screen TV - except for people who live alone and never have anyone over? Why would one of its main selling points be integration with the other iDevices and Macs, if it can replace them? Will you be walking around with this on your head whenever you're outside as you currently do with your iPhone? Even if you were dorky enough to say 'yes', you won't be doing it for more than 2 hours as that's how long that battery lasts.

Some future version of this will be great. This is DOA. I can't think of anyone who'll buy this except for status seeking folks with money to burn. But that's not enough folks to make it enticing to developers - so even developers might not buy this thing. And no developers, no apps. No apps, no increased usefulness over time that'll help people to buy it when it shrinks to reasonable dimensions and price.

This thing, as is, needs a killer app. Otherwise it needs a couple more years and sell as AR glasses instead of ugly ski goggles.

You underestimate how amazing all of this sounds to the people living alone in New York and the Bay Area and places like that all around the world making high six figures. These are the people driving this forward. It astounds me that there is an economy for this as well but Apple hasn’t built beautiful temples to itself in major cities all around the world by not making a lot of money on expensive products.

And while I’m at it: right hand, forehead. iPhone, Vision Pro. It’s in Revelations, people!
 
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Interesting choice with the "cloth" face and strap. Not sure how that will hold up when my wife or daughter (with makeup) put that on and it smears all over it. Or is there some kind of magic "surface seal" on it
 
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Interesting choice with the "cloth" face and strap. Not sure how that will hold up when my wife or daughter (with makeup) put that on and it smears all over it. Or is there some kind of magic "surface seal" on it
maybe it'll be detachable and washable? I hope so, because another scenario I envision is companies buying a *few* for dev or use and letting developers check them out. So, uh, sucks to be the person who got the one that was used 10 mins ago by the coworker who sweats like a fountain if that piece can't be popped off and swapped, and washed
 
The people than can and will spend $3500 on this. Thank them, because they’re helping pave the way for the glasses version of this that will come if we can crack about a dozen technological barriers.
I guess it's debatable whether enough people will part with $3500 for these ugly goggles to make it worthwhile for developers to create application for it and, hopefully, create a kill app - which Apple didn't have for this device - that then drives more demand for this ugly thing and, hopefully future less ugly things.

Years ago, Tim Cook expressed his enthusiasm for AR and, specifically, AR glasses. It's unbelievably disappointing to find that after all these years and effort, all Apple could come up with is these ugly ski goggles - with a friggin' tether! Steve Jobs is turning over in his grave as we speak :-(

I ask this simple question: why isn't all the heavy-duty processing - which is the cause for the ugly goggles and the tethered battery - done in the iPhone??? People already have one of those in their pockets and Apple has the know-how to make the networking to nearby AR *glasses* fast enough to have those glasses project transmitted images and send sensor data back. We could have had AR *glasses* instead of this contraption.
 
I guess it's debatable whether enough people will part with $3500 for these ugly goggles to make it worthwhile for developers to create application for it and, hopefully, create a kill app - which Apple didn't have for this device - that then drives more demand for this ugly thing and, hopefully future less ugly things.

Years ago, Tim Cook expressed his enthusiasm for AR and, specifically, AR glasses. It's unbelievably disappointing to find that after all these years and effort, all Apple could come up with is these ugly ski goggles - with a friggin' tether! Steve Jobs is turning over in his grave as we speak :-(

I ask this simple question: why isn't all the heavy-duty processing - which is the cause for the ugly goggles and the tethered battery - done in the iPhone??? People already have one of those in their pockets and Apple has the know-how to make the networking to nearby AR *glasses* fast enough to have those glasses project transmitted images and send sensor data back. We could have had AR *glasses* instead of this contraption.


because the iphone is not powerful enough.
 
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From what they showed at the apple event its seems as this allows one to do the functions of a Mac, iPhone, and Apple TV on the head set in a larger scale screen. I am not going to look at emails, and type them out using a head set, when the computer may be right in front of me. I like the idea of the immersive aspect of watching 3-D movies, etc.. I guess I thought that it was going to be more of a virtual reality headset. It seems to be a computer that is strapped around your head? I would have liked to have seen some fictional settings that VR is known for?
 
Game Changer, everyone else has failed at VR. Microsoft tried AR with the HoloLens which really doesn't work very well. If this truly works as shown Apple has the content, partnerships and developer community to make it happen. I'll buy one, and I can only imagine how future generations of the product will evolve and improve.
 
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I cannot believe it's here either ... in fact I'm not believing this thread at all until a bit later for me to watch the keynote.

But man having an external battery pack?!
It's like Apple's version of the BlackBerry belt-holster. THIS is terrible!

Maybe Apple and TSMC really needs a better implementation or advancement in the A-series chip design and evolution of say 4 generations ahead for incredible power-efficiency to negate the need for a battery pack.
I'd much rather wear the battery pack than have that extra weight on my head
 
I thought this was DOA. I was wrong. I think this is revolutionary. It’s not a VR device like I imagined. It’s an AR device.

I could totally see myself buying this or buying a future version.

I work a lot while traveling. One of my main issues is not having a big external monitor when I’m away from home. This solves that problem for me and integrates with my MacBook Pro.

Also, the $3500 price tag is fine. Just think of it as buying an M2 Mac, a 3D 100” OLED screen and an iPhone in one.

I’m excited to see this in person and excited for the second version. I’m betting that by version 3, it will be purchased by the masses. The first one is obviously aimed at developers first.

Overtime, it will get more powerful, lighter, longer battery life, and cheaper. It will eventually have a great non-pro version for the masses.
Cheaper is never in the books, its only up from here.
 
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