Here's What the Status Bar and iPad-Style Dock Could Look Like on 'iPhone 8'

blancoBronco said:
the notch looks better in black, because regardless of iOS color palettes, there are going to be plenty of things that are not black or white (videos, pictures, third party apps, etc.) and the black is less obtrusive
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Precisely. So everyone should stop the White Color questions. It's not happening. :apple:
 
QuarterSwede said:
Because they’ll want to save room for status bar icons and no one needs the time constantly in 3 different places in the UI. This would only be for the iPhone 8 with the split status bar. Besides, Apple does a lot of unpopular things and this makes sense for their quest for a clean UI.
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which 3 different places are you talking about? being able to know the time immediately while doing something like sending an email or texting someone is pretty important. what if someone is on their phone killing 5 minutes before they need to make a phone call, but because they didn't see the time while checking their email, they didn't call in time? there is no logical reason to remove the time from the screen
 
redscull said:
Strongly agree. Apple has been reducing usability steadily ever since they shed skeumohism, which is when a hardware design expert started pretending he was skilled at software user experience design. Getting rid of the home button is that final step in eliminating what made the iPhone so approachable to so many. It's a sad day if true.
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since android phones have basically used these gestures with pretty horrible results for years i'm not sure apple is going to step up and "get it right." it's a nice theory for how things could work but a dedicated home button is why i can hand this to my kid or grandparent and they don't accidentally "fly" out of the app because they held the phone the wrong way. maybe apple has some insane magic up their sleeve but i'm incredibly skeptical.
 
redscull said:
Strongly agree. Apple has been reducing usability steadily ever since they shed skeumohism, which is when a hardware design expert started pretending he was skilled at software user experience design. Getting rid of the home button is that final step in eliminating what made the iPhone so approachable to so many. It's a sad day if true.
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What a wonderful post! You said that very well. Tim Cook is clueless, and if the cutout is present and the physical home button is indeed gone, he's more clueless than previously thought.

I don't understand all the hatred toward bezels. It reminds me of the illogical hate of skeuomorphism around 2013. Now we have the ugly and less user-friendly flat design. The hate of bezels brings us the ugly cutout and the less functional elimination of the physical home button.

So now many good functional things have been eliminated: visual cues via classy and cultural references (i.e., skeuomorphism), the 3.5mm headphone jack, the bezels, and the home button. Hey, Tim, while you're at it, how about you eliminate the screen, too, in next year's iPhone? That'll surely make it 'the thinnest and lightest iPhone ever.' Eliminating the screen will also 'save valuable space' inside the iPhone so you can fit in more components. Just sell a screen separately and include an adapter. :rolleyes:
 
macduke said:
What I wonder is since this display is so freaking tall, might we get horizontally split multitasking? That would be crazy, and maybe too weird.
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I like the idea, but I have two thoughts about split screen on the iPhone.
  1. iPhone apps can be displayed 320 points wide and the split screen divider is 10 points, so the width condition by itself does not preclude even the iPhone 4.7" (667 pixels) from having landscape Split View.
  2. That being said, Apple does not necessarily go for the narrowest possible widths. The "secondary" app in Slide Over and asymmetric Split View on the iPad Pro 12.9" is 375 points wide unlike the 320 points for the other iPads. This is despite a 320 point width having one key advantage over a 375 point width in portrait mode (1024 point width):
    • Secondary app 375 points → primary app 639 points → the primary app is Compact size,
    • Secondary app 320 points → primary app 694 points → the primary app is Regular size.
The iPhone (2017 OLED) is 375 points wide. According to Steve Troughton-Smith, its height minus the status and home bars is about 762 points. As long as the total width available in landscape is at least 760 points, a landscape Split View can theoretically support two apps of the same 375 point width (or greater), which is not possible on all existing iPhones.

Note: I don't know what the minimum height for an iPhone app is, but if it's greater than 375 points then split screen won't work anyway.
 
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blancoBronco said:
which 3 different places are you talking about? being able to know the time immediately while doing something like sending an email or texting someone is pretty important. what if someone is on their phone killing 5 minutes before they need to make a phone call, but because they didn't see the time while checking their email, they didn't call in time? there is no logical reason to remove the time from the screen
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Notification pull down in iOS 11 the widget center (they’re both basically the lockscreen) and the status bar. Plus there are plenty of apps that hide the time already. Heck messages already tells you what time it is when you send a message.
 
profets said:
The carrier name is the first thing I thought about. I hope it’s gone and we don’t have to see it on the home screen anymore, but somehow I’m not getting my hopes up.



I think iOS 10 with the lock/unlocked status on the lock screen gives us the best hint of this, along with the beta of iOS 11 treating the notification shade & lock screen as a ‘cover sheet’.

When pulling the phone out of pocket, raising it will light up the screen, and Face ID will put the phone into an unlocked state. Look at notifications if you need or slide up from the bottom to get to the home screen. Similar to current iPhones on iOS 11 where you slide up from the bottom once you’ve pulled down the cover sheet / Notification Center.
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Hehe I skipped iOS 10 and went to Android so I wasn't aware of that (and it's not too noticeable on the iPad Air 2 / Pro since I just mindlessly unlocked via TouchID). That sounds much more likely.
 
QuarterSwede said:
Notification pull down in iOS 11 the widget center (they’re both basically the lockscreen) and the status bar. Plus there are plenty of apps that hide the time already. Heck messages already tells you what time it is when you send a message.
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messages telling me the time when I send a message is not the same as immediately knowing the time, I'm not going to send a message just to check the time.

And literally the time is one of the founding features of cell phones, not having to wear or check your watch because its on your phone.

The apps that hide the time are annoying, having to pull down the notification screen is one step too many to know something as important as the time
 
blancoBronco said:
messages telling me the time when I send a message is not the same as immediately knowing the time, I'm not going to send a message just to check the time.

And literally the time is one of the founding features of cell phones, not having to wear or check your watch because its on your phone.

The apps that hide the time are annoying, having to pull down the notification screen is one step too many to know something as important as the time
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Which is why I said it makes sense to hide it when wearing a watch. It’s on your wrist and immediately accessible.
 
macduke said:
My prediction:
  • Swipe up a little, dock comes up. 5-6 icons with one that shows up for continuity.
  • Swipe up fully, four panes of currently open iPhone apps.
  • Swipe left for more recent apps, or swipe right for Control Center. Although they could make control center another swipe up, or combine it with a 3D Touch gesture to activate.
This brings it in line nicely with the iPad Pro. This also explains why some of the drag and drop stuff was working on the iPhone in iOS 11 but wasn't covered by Apple. What I wonder is since this display is so freaking tall, might we get horizontally split multitasking? That would be crazy, and maybe too weird. I also have to wonder where the other status bar icons will go—if they'll be visible if you pull down or tap on the status area, or be visible when you multitask or something. Personally I've often thought that they could get rid of most of them.
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Yes, and yes.

I think a short swipe will pull up the app switcher (in which one could tap in the negative 'frosted' area to get to the home screen), while a continuous swipe will pull up CC, just like on iPad. That's what I'd like to see.
 
QuarterSwede said:
Which is why I said it makes sense to hide it when wearing a watch. It’s on your wrist and immediately accessible.
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that is not "immediately accessible", immediately accessible would be not having to do anything besides look somewhere else on the screen I'm currently looking at
 
DeepIn2U said:
Yeah enough with carrier branding. You get your phone on contract or retail, you get the contract/month to month or prepaid, you PAY the bill so who doesn't know what carrier you're on? Roaming agreements and infrastructure setup properly and less of a problem lately ... means there is no need!

Things are going to get exciting in 3weeks!
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Bad idea not showing carrier name, when roaming in Europe you get stung with a huge bill if you roam onto the wrong network near borders
 
blancoBronco said:
they would be idiotic to remove one of the most fundamental features of the phone, regardless of being able to direct it to a watch
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I hardly think having the time in the status bar is a fundamental feature. Regardless, our opinions obviously differ so let’s move on shall we?
 
I'm just relieved apple is not wasting space on the screen by adding a virtual home button. Gestures is a much more elegant solution than putting a single circle below the dock. We may as well have kept the physical button if that was the final design. Thankfully it's not. Faith restored.
 
I simply love this ¯\____/¯ design, looks like ¯\_ツ_/¯...

I am guess we can create a new lenny face for the new iphone...

¯\_ºº ── ºº_/¯
 
Dilster3k said:
It's inevitable however, but their stance with iOS 7 may justify it. The saying back then was that people today are now familiar with these smartphones. The home button was a guaranteed safe-haven to get back to the home screen for the world that was foreign to the concept, but today it's beyond the norm. Allowing for more wiggle-room, I undoubtedly believe that these gestures will become the norm for the years to come, but just like USB-C, the transition period will be felt.
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Android's gestures work better than Apple's. I mostly try to avoid them in iOS, not looking forward to this, and will jailbreak to fix any issues/hindrances I encounter.

Not to mention, generally speaking, that Apple has neglected to utilize 3D Touch in most of the likely use cases for it; and especially with this OS overhaul being a prime example of where to make better use of it. that they could with iOS 11.
 
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