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Here's What the Status Bar and iPad-Style Dock Could Look Like on 'iPhone 8'

QuarterSwede said:
I still believe they’ll hide the clock if you’re wearing an Apple Watch. I’m mean, it’s just so obvious.
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If I'm wearing my Apple Watch and looking at something on my iPhone, and want to know the time ("that message just said that thing is at 7:30 - how long is that from now?") I will absolutely glance a degree or two upwards to read the time off the top line of my phone, rather than rotating my wrist 180 degrees (hiding the phone's screen momentarily), to read the time off my Apple Watch. I mean, it’s just so obvious.

You appear to only be considering the case where the watch is on your wrist, and the phone is in your pocket, and you want to know the time. And despite your admission, I don't think you're mean.
 
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orev said:
A clock is something that should be available as an incidental piece of information, not something you should have to take an action to see.



Do you really not understand the difference between doing nothing to see the time, vs. having to raise your arm (possibly having to put down whatever you might have in your hand) to see it? The difference is literally in the explanation; doing nothing vs. doing something. You may think that it's not that big of a difference, or that you personally don't have a problem with it, but it is in fact objectively a different thing.
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You’re moving your eyes to see. That’s an action itself (yes, now I’m just being argumentative). I still think it’s in the realm of Apple doing it. They done far odder things like removing hardware people still use quite often.
 
What is this Mac Rumors Ugly Day? With that autonomous car, Samsung day glow crap, and the iPhone 8 cutout, the front page is scaring me. :D
 
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I love the floating dock and wondered why it didn't make it into the iPhone version of iOS 11, so I hope this turns out to be true.
 
QuarterSwede said:
You’re moving your eyes to see. That’s an action itself (yes, now I’m just being argumentative). I still think it’s in the realm of Apple doing it. They done far odder things like removing hardware people still use quite often.
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they removed hardware for a perceived benefit, what benefit do they get for removing the clock for only people with a watch? what will they do for people without a watch? why not just have that for everyone if its good enough for a majority of people?
 
Well, I'll get one and if I can't stand the way it looks I'll return it. But it will be black.
 
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Go to Apple.com. They will use iTunes.

If we are going to shell out 1k for a butt ugly phone, we should do this at least (short of a boat)
 
so it looks like with the iphone 8, there should be literature included in the box that shows all these "new" finger/swipe feature. Nice job apple. /s

Make it more confusing for the end-user for a "dead simple" OS.
I see apple trying to modify the actual way we use the phones to "their" terms. So now, it's not the "garden wall" for apps, now its the "garden wall" for the actual way we use the phones.

Before: I don't want to move to x platform because I'm $ invested into it (apps, storage service et...)
Now: I don't want to move to x platform because I'm used to these "gestures."
 
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At this point I’d rather save my money and get something cheaper like a Moto G5. Good specs for the price (2GB RAM/32GB storage $230, 4GB RAM/64GB storage $300). No NFC for Android Pay, but that’s hard to find on budget phones.

I’m not paying $700-$1000 for a phone when cheaper options exist and work just fine. Though that Galaxy S8 sure is tempting.
 
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blancoBronco said:
there is room, have you not seen the mockups that have the time in the left "ear" or just underneath the cutout? there are options that don't involve removing the time
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The mockups only show a few icons. I currently have Cell, Wi-Fi, Time, Location, Alarm, Bluetooth, and Battery. I don’t see them all fitting since there is 6 more: Personal Hotspot, Bluetooth Battery Connection, DND, Syncing, Network activity, and Portrait Orientation. I realize some believe they’ll hide the cell network even then. I don’t know how they’ll handle the lack of space. Something has to go. Maybe it won’t be time but I’m interested in knowing what they’ll do.
 
orev said:
How exactly is "swipe down" not a hidden gesture? The entire problem of where iPhone/IOS is going is all these hidden things that have no affordances, but you're just suppoed to know about them somehow.
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Where or when did I say anything about 'not a hidden gesture'?
I simply suggested, that might be where you gain access to the home button.
 
Please allow me to chime in.
That cut out is absolutely disgraceful. Compared to the Samsungs, it's just awful.
When did simplicity turn into stupidity at Apple? Where's Steve Jobs to cut these bad ideas down at the first utter of them?
There's lots I hate about ios11 on iPad including a floating dock. Why do I need to swipe up from the bottom twice just to get the control panel? A labyrinth of confusing gestures.
**** Apple. What the hell are they doing?
[doublepost=1504129106][/doublepost]Hidden and complex gestures make for awful user experiences. It's 101 stuff.
 
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QuarterSwede said:
Room. There just isn’t any. That’s the benefit.
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The fact that the clock fits just fine on the screen in the mockups would suggest otherwise.
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predation said:
I see apple trying to modify the actual way we use the phones to "their" terms.
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You know, they did that once already, in 2007. You may have heard it mentioned somewhere.

I don't think it'll catch on though - touchscreens and virtual keyboards are just a fad. Waiting for Blackberry's big revival.
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orev said:
How exactly is "swipe down" not a hidden gesture? The entire problem of where iPhone/IOS is going is all these hidden things that have no affordances, but you're just suppoed to know about them somehow.
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Hmm, much of the world is pretty familiar with basic smartphone concepts now, learning one or two new bits doesn't seem like a very high bar to entry (putting "Unlock" on the screen with a big arrow, was something presented to a world almost entirely unfamiliar with touchscreen gestures; in that case it made a lot of sense); I'll take easy to use over easy to learn, any day - if that's what this comes down to.
 
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CarlJ said:
The fact that the clock fits just fine on the screen in the mockups would suggest otherwise.
[doublepost=1504129325][/doublepost]You know, they did that once already, in 2007. You may have heard it mentioned somewhere.

I don't think it'll catch on though - touchscreens and virtual keyboards are just a fad. Waiting for Blackberry's big revival.
[doublepost=1504129688][/doublepost]Hmm, much of the world is pretty familiar with basic smartphone concepts now, learning one or two new bits doesn't seem like a very high bar to entry (putting "Unlock" on the screen with a big arrow, was something presented to a world almost entirely unfamiliar with touchscreen gestures; in that case it made a lot of sense); I'll take easy to use over easy to learn, any day - if that's what this comes down to.
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i think you maybe apologizing ahead of time for Apple. The design is flawed both aesthetically and in useability. There should be little to nothing to learn. Deep gestures and hidden tricks are flawed from the outset. iOS 11 is so clumsy.
[doublepost=1504130303][/doublepost]This has COMPAQ written all over it. Unresolved design. Esoteric and spammy design.
Unimpressed, and not upgrading.
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tendoboy1984 said:
At this point I’d rather save my money and get something cheaper like a Moto G5. Good specs for the price (2GB RAM/32GB storage $230, 4GB RAM/64GB storage $300). No NFC for Android Pay, but that’s hard to find on budget phones.

I’m not paying $700-$1000 for a phone when cheaper options exist and work just fine. Though that Galaxy S8 sure is tempting.
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The S8 and new Note designs are incredible. They've really come a long way to meet and possibly surpass Apple on device design. There's no cut out notches on the new Note, also there is no protruding camera. It's just so much better than Apple at the moment. It astonishes me how in denial about these facts some can be here.
 
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mattopotamus said:
To be honest, it looks like this is what we are getting. Rumors have been on point the last few years. I personally am going to pass on the 8 for this reason, and bet on the 8S having an actual virtual/under screen home button.
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I agree. I too am holding off on purchasing th 8. I am very excited over what the 8 will offer, but even more excited at what the 8s will offer.
 
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i think you maybe apologizing ahead of time for Apple. The design is flawed both aesthetically and in useability. There should be little to nothing to learn. Deep gestures and hidden tricks are flawed from the outset. iOS 11 is so clumsy.
[doublepost=1504130303][/doublepost]This has COMPAQ written all over it. Unresolved design. Esoteric and spammy design.
Unimpressed, and not upgrading.
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The S8 and new Note designs are incredible. They've really come a long way to meet and possibly surpass Apple on device design. There's no cut out notches on the new Note, also there is no protruding camera. It's just so much better than Apple at the moment. It astonishes me how in denial about these facts some can be here.
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I think the iPhone 8 is a better looking phone.
 
I look at this thing and think - do we really need more icons? I think the iOS interface/concept is tired and needs a rethink. The whole bucket of apps thing seems so cumbersome and old world.
 
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