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The bigger screen, AI additions, and camera changes have some analysts thinking this could be a super cycle. Keep in mind most people aren't on Macrumors and don't have iPhone 15s.

I agree. iPhones, especially with the manner in which Apple is implementing AI, will for sure be a game changer. And will drive a lot of 16 sales once people understand how it can be used in their everyday lives.
 
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Hello, question - I want to pre-order this (first time doing so for an iPhone) and pick up in store.

I do NOT want to get it shipped and wait a trillion years for it to arrive. Can I do this from pre-order tomorrow? Thanks!
 
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Hello, question - I want to pre-order this (first time doing so for an iPhone) and pick up in store.

I do NOT want to get it shipped and wait a trillion years for it to arrive. Can I do this from pre-order tomorrow? Thanks!

You should be able to. Store pickup is how I've done it in the past.
 
I agree. iPhones, especially with the manner in which Apple is implementing AI, will for sure be a game changer. And will drive a lot of 16 sales once people understand how it can be used in their everyday lives.

The manner in which Apple is implementing AI is to drip-feed it out to the point that by the time it gets to anywhere near what is promised, the 17 will be out.

The only people that will be updating to the 16 for these features are enthusiasts. Everyone else will when their battery gets weak, or their 2-3 year agreement is up, or they broke/lost their phone. I work in a large hospital unit full of (mostly) iPhone users, and only one of them even knew the 16 had been announced and the one person that has a 15 Pro Max didn't even know what model they own.
 
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The manner in which Apple is implementing AI is to drip-feed it out to the point that by the time it gets to anywhere near what is promised, the 17 will be out.

The only people that will be updating to the 16 for these features are enthusiasts. Everyone else will when their battery gets weak, or their 2-3 year agreement is up, or they broke/lost their phone. I work in a large hospital unit full of (mostly) iPhone users, and only one of them even knew the 16 had been announced and the one person that has a 15 Pro Max didn't even know what model they own.

Not true. Non-"enthusiast" people who will be updating are those who need/want a new iPhone. My wife, an artist, for example who still uses an iPhone 8. And many millions more non-"enthusiast" people.

You're *assuming* Apple is going to drip AI out at a rate that will be non-interesting. The infrastructure is in place. Users and uses will quickly evolve and proliferate. At least for people who don't have calcified imaginations.
 
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Apple frustrated me for YEARS working in the cellular industry with their 3:01 am PT pre-order. I worked for one of the top 3 US carriers. I had to fly to the north and run a command center for the pre-sale. We had to arrive at 1 am ET to get ready for the "go live" pre-order at 3:01 am ET. After I retired from the industry after 20+ years they changed it from 3:01 am ET to 8:00 am ET. I was like really!!?!?!??! But I am glad to hear it. The 3:01 am ET was so dumb which tied into the first minute of the day via Pacific Time (PT). UGH
 
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Not true. Non-"enthusiast" people who will be updating are those who need/want a new iPhone. My wife, an artist, for example who still uses an iPhone 8. And many millions more non-enthusiast people.

You're *assuming* Apple is going to drip AI out. The infrastructure is in place. Uses will quickly evolve and proliferate. At least for people who have non-calcified imaginations.

I listed three groups that want/need a new phone and might upgrade, and none of them will be upgrading because of AI.

No one, outside of enthusiasts, will be updating because of AI. There is nothing super cycle about the 16.
 
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Why preorder at all?
This is no longer some hot, massively in demand, going to sell out instantly, product

Oh, I don't know, perhaps because I want it to just arrive on Friday while I work from home? Perhaps people don't want to go out to the store? Perhaps people just feel like it because why not? A lot of reasons I guess?
 
I listed three groups that want/need a new phone and might update, and none of them will be updating because of AI.

No one, outside of enthusiasts, will be updating because of AI. This is nothing super cycle in the 16.

AI will be *a* reason, of many reasons, to update. Especially after the everyday/everyperson utility of AI becomes known to the masses. One doesn't need to be an "enthusiast" to take advantage of AI. Which will quickly happen. And will likely be *a* driver of Apple selling (and no doubt exceeding) their 600,000+ iPhones per day, every day of the year.
 
AI will be *a* reason, of many reasons, to update. Especially after the everyday/everyperson utility of AI becomes known to the masses - one doesn't need to be an "enthusiast" to take advantage of AI. Which will quickly happen. And will likely be *a* driver of Apple selling (and no doubt exceeding) their 600,000+ iPhones per day, every day of the year.

I don't disagree with you that it might be a reason, I absolutely disagree with you and analyst saying that this will be a super cycle like this release of the 16 is some watershed moment. It's just another year and another model.
 
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Hello, question - I want to pre-order this (first time doing so for an iPhone) and pick up in store.

I do NOT want to get it shipped and wait a trillion years for it to arrive. Can I do this from pre-order tomorrow? Thanks!

Just walk in and get one
They won't be hard to get
 
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AI will be *a* reason, of many reasons, to update. Especially after the everyday/everyperson utility of AI becomes known to the masses. One doesn't need to be an "enthusiast" to take advantage of AI. Which will quickly happen. And will likely be *a* driver of Apple selling (and no doubt exceeding) their 600,000+ iPhones per day, every day of the year.
The average iPhone user still won’t use it because Apple made it too complicated for the average user
 
My Uncle Sal throws a party every year. Basically starts Thursday evening, he caters in food...brings in booze and people have a good time before everyone pre-orders when they become available.
 
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Is anyone else a member of the iPhone Upgrade Program not able to get their preorder set up?
It says I'm not a member of the iUP even though I am. Apple support doesn't seem to have a fix for this either.
Mine went thru fine.
 
You should be able to. Store pickup is how I've done it in the past.

While we're in the business of asking questions.

I'm planning on pre ordering tomorrow morning. I'm a VZW customer and the past few times I've done my upgrade through Verizon's web site. I pay the $199 to get out of my current phone early and they have the phone shipped to me. VZW then sends me a box and I ship my old phone back

This is sort of a hassle for me, and it's a bit of a convoluted story. I live in a state that charges sales tax, and work in one that doesn't. I usually have expensive things shipped to my office to avoid the sales tax. However, the building I work in closes at noon on a Friday and the FedEx driver never makes it here before noon. So I either have to wait in the parking lot for the FedEx guy, which is a royal PITA. Or not get my phone until Monday, which stinks.

So, my question. Can I do my upgrade through the Apple web site and chose to pick up the phone at the local Apple store? It's right down the road from my office and it's in the same sales tax free state.

I was reading somewhere else on the inter-WEBS that when you order the phone from the Apple web site and chose the carrier upgrade it's no different then ordering it straight from the carrier's web site. The deals/contract/etc are all the same and Apple is just a pass through or intermediary for the carrier.

I was hoping to order my phone through the Apple web site and schedule it for pickup at the local Apple store, negating the need to wait for the FedEx driver or until Monday. Anyone actually KNOW what the deal is?

I know this is a lot. Thanks for helping.
 
The average iPhone user still won’t use it because Apple made it too complicated for the average user

I find that very unlikely.

Apple is well known for "reducing friction" in how and why average people use their products. That's what drives Apple's massive success, with 1 billion active (and repeat) customers.
 
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While we're in the business of asking questions.

I'm planning on pre ordering tomorrow morning. I'm a VZW customer and the past few times I've done my upgrade through Verizon's web site. I pay the $199 to get out of my current phone early and they have the phone shipped to me. VZW then sends me a box and I ship my old phone back

This is sort of a hassle for me, and it's a bit of a convoluted story. I live in a state that charges sales tax, and work in one that doesn't. I usually have expensive things shipped to my office to avoid the sales tax. However, the building I work in closes at noon on a Friday and the FedEx driver never makes it here before noon. So I either have to wait in the parking lot for the FedEx guy, which is a royal PITA. Or not get my phone until Monday, which stinks.

So, my question. Can I do my upgrade through the Apple web site and chose to pick up the phone at the local Apple store? It's right down the road from my office and it's in the same sales tax free state.

I was reading somewhere else on the inter-WEBS that when you order the phone from the Apple web site and chose the carrier upgrade it's no different then ordering it straight from the carrier's web site. The deals/contract/etc are all the same and Apple is just a pass through or intermediary for the carrier.

I was hoping to order my phone through the Apple web site and schedule it for pickup at the local Apple store, negating the need to wait for the FedEx driver or until Monday. Anyone actually KNOW what the deal is?

I know this is a lot. Thanks for helping.

That I don't know having never purchased (or upgraded) an iPhone through a carrier. I've only ordered new iPhones directly through Apple's website.

Sorry I can't be more helpful.
 
Just walk in and get one
They won't be hard to get
Or ... again perhaps they want it delivered? I'm not sure why this is a blocker for you on this matter. I pre-order mine, because I work from home, I can just get it handed to me. Simple.

Not everyone pre-orders because they think they wont get one, in fact very few its just an easy way to get it day one with little to no effort.
 
I find that very unlikely.

Apple is well known for "reducing friction" in how and why average people use their products. That's what drives Apple's massive success, with 1 billion active (and repeat) customers.

Yet I know plenty of people who haven't so much as invoked Siri in 3-4 years, and there is a multitude of other iPhone features they never use. I, for example, know more people that use Spotify on the iPhone than Apple Music

Not every feature is equally valuable and I still don't think this will drive any significant amount of upgrades.

Maybe it will become a big thing over time, or maybe it will be a ho-hum feature that just fades into the background.
 
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Yet I know plenty of people who haven't so much as invoked Siri in 3-4 years, and there is a multitude of other iPhone features they never use. I, for example, know more people that use Spotify on the iPhone than Apple Music

Not every feature is equally valuable and I still don't think this will drive any significant amount of upgrades.

Maybe it will become a big thing over time, or maybe it will be a ho-hum feature that just fades into the background.

We'll soon find out.

Reducing friction to make things easier to use, or solving problems in novel ways, is Apple's strength and in their wheelhouse. This is where Apple will shine letting non-tech/enthusiast people *easily* use AI to assist in a very wide variety of everyday situations.

I expect this will be used extensively and be ultimately taken for granted as a tool within a year's time.
 
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