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Heroes Season 1, part 2

atszyman said:
Peter can absorb powers from Sylar, he has already shown he has telekinetic abilities that we've only seen in Sylar so far, and we know that the telekinetic was Sylar's first kill.
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This was what I was going to point out to mattscott306; IMO it seems clear that Peter can absorb powers from anyone, passively, including Sylar, but can't necessarily use them without active effort.

What *I* don't get is why he couldn't control the radioactivity? He seems to have pretty good control over most of his other powers, or at worst, he just can't 'use' them very well, but he hasn't had a power overload with any other power, so why this one? It seems a little too convenient plotwise without adequate background as to why he can't subdue that power, when he otherwise has trouble even using some other powers - they are the opposite of overwhelming.

epochblue said:
Oh, and does anyone else think the person that Hiro heard all those stories about when he was a kid (the Samurai) is going to turn out to be Hiro himself?
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I hadn't thought of that but I think that's an EXCELLENT idea. I love the circularity of it!

epochblue said:
Oh, I think she's definitely packin' hidden heat. And I'm dying to know what her power is. Part of me thinks she's one of the "future painters" (a la Isaac), and that's part of the reason Linderman liked her.
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Mama Petrelli's first conversations with Claire indicate she has power of some sort, to me at least. I personally think that her power is a sort of prophetic/knowledge-gaining dreaming, and the weird dream sequence that Peter experienced when he passed out was because he somehow activated that power, which he gained from her originally.

MongoTheGeek said:
Sylar might actually be dead and his body was dragged off by the unknown person. Maybe he was still alive and was the roach.
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The cameras really seemed to focus seriously on that roach, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was some significance, maybe he has shape shifting and we don't know about it...?
 
majapapaya said:
Generations: Meet all new heroes?
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Old heroes actually.

weldon said:
I think that's what "Generations" refers to - a new arc about the history behind the current supers.
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Yeah, pretty much.

atszyman said:
As for the next season, I've recently read an article on Heroes in EW and the creators have confirmed that the next season has to do with previous generations and how some of the organizations of "heroes" came to be.
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That would be Generations. It's just for the Summer. Next season, they start Volume 2. It was supposed to be pretty much all new heroes, but I'm sure some of our favorites will reappear.

Peter doesn't have control over his powers. Flying takes concentration, as we've seen he has trouble doing it even when falling off a building. Maybe his mixed feeling over his Brother at the time made it harder. Remember, he said he had to think about the person when he called upon the power. Ted's power on the other hand was hard to control. It took concentration for him to not radiate. We know he was radiating because his wife got cancer from him, and look at what happened when he got angry over her grave, or after he got shot. Same might have happened to Peter, so it's a good thing Nathan showed up and Claire didn't shoot him. But he was mad at his Brother before he showed up, so he'd have to think of his Brother and concentrate enough to fly on his own while not getting too angry or frustrated and concentrate on not blowing up all at the same time. He obviously couldn't. Sylar has far better control apparently, since he can see how the powers work, as we can see by him taking to them right away. Peter doesn't have that luxury, which as Claude alluded to, is his weakness and strength.

I still wish it would have felt less rushed, less anticlimactic, and there would have been more of a fight with Sylar.
 
fairnymph said:
What *I* don't get is why he couldn't control the radioactivity? He seems to have pretty good control over most of his other powers, or at worst, he just can't 'use' them very well, but he hasn't had a power overload with any other power, so why this one?
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What would a power overload be with any of the other powers? He'd be more invisible? He'd just fly randomly? I think his control problem was a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. Given the state of mind/emotions at the fight with Sylar and stress he's been under he could have had difficulty controlling any power, the reason it kept coming back to the radioactivity is because that was the one power he was most worried about thus at the forefront of his mind. If he wouldn't have worried about it he probably wouldn't have had control problems with that particular power.

solvs said:
That would be Generations. It's just for the Summer. Next season, they start Volume 2. It was supposed to be pretty much all new heroes, but I'm sure some of our favorites will reappear.
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Actually Heroes: Origins is for the summer and if I recall correctly is all new heroes showing up in stand alone episodes. Generations is the second season and deals with the older generations.
 
atszyman said:
What would a power overload be with any of the other powers? He'd be more invisible? He'd just fly randomly? I think his control problem was a bit of a self fulfilling prophecy. Given the state of mind/emotions at the fight with Sylar and stress he's been under he could have had difficulty controlling any power, the reason it kept coming back to the radioactivity is because that was the one power he was most worried about thus at the forefront of his mind. If he wouldn't have worried about it he probably wouldn't have had control problems with that particular power.
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I think that's a solid interpretation. I'd liken it to being panicked and having someone tell you to relax your breathing...it's hard to relax and think about anything else when you're panicked. I'd imagine it's hard for Peter to control Ted's power when he's panicked about it to begin with.


atszyman said:
Actually Heroes: Origins is for the summer and if I recall correctly is all new heroes showing up in stand alone episodes. Generations is the second season and deals with the older generations.
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This is my understanding of the Summer/Season 2 stuff as well. Anyone know where I can find information about Origins (beyond that it's a spin-off and going to be on this summer)?
 
epochblue said:
This is my understanding of the Summer/Season 2 stuff as well. Anyone know where I can find information about Origins (beyond that it's a spin-off and going to be on this summer)?
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"Heroes: Origins" will consist of six stand-alone episodes. Each one will focus on introducing a new character and detailing their unique back story. These stories will not be tied into the main story line for the season, but will be in the same universe, so we may get to see some of the series regulars meet up with these new characters.

The writers have also added a very cool element to these shows. After the "Heroes: Origins" mini-series airs, viewers will be able to vote on which character joins the main show the following season. Yup - it's a 'Choose Your Own Hero' adventure!
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An American Idol type competition for completely fictional characters...

Strikes me as a system where the writers can strongly push for a particular actor/hero if they desire. A strongly written episode for someone they favor could go a long way towards swaying the masses who would be willing to call in. But of course I'd rather have them writing for someone they like rather than forcing it for someone the don't particularly care for.
 
fairnymph said:
It seems a little too convenient plotwise without adequate background as to why he can't subdue that power, when he otherwise has trouble even using some other powers - they are the opposite of overwhelming.
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That was my only complaint too. Peter's situational convenience of being in control or out of control of his different powers felt forced in the final episode.



[will Hiro turn out to be Kensei?] I hadn't thought of that but I think that's an EXCELLENT idea. I love the circularity of it!
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I think the samurai we see at the end holding the sword with the mystical symbol on it is the real Kensei, but I could imagine a plot twist where Kensei dies and Hiro takes his place.



Mama Petrelli's first conversations with Claire indicate she has power of some sort, to me at least. I personally think that her power is a sort of prophetic/knowledge-gaining dreaming, and the weird dream sequence that Peter experienced when he passed out was because he somehow activated that power, which he gained from her originally.
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Interesting idea. I'd like to know what that dream sequence is and what Simone's dad's power is.

atszyman said:
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Strikes me as a system where the writers can strongly push for a particular actor/hero if they desire. A strongly written episode for someone they favor could go a long way towards swaying the masses who would be willing to call in. But of course I'd rather have them writing for someone they like rather than forcing it for someone the don't particularly care for.
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I don't think it's fair to assume that the show would try to sandbag and promote certain characters over others. I suppose that they will try to write the best episodes that they can. If one comes out better than another, it might mean that the writing staff and the actor really connect to that character. It's not really gaming the system, but the voting is then just a true reflection of which characters are more interesting and better realized by both the writing and the acting.

It'd be interesting to know how they manage the competition aspect on the staff. Will the writer that came up with the character get a more prominent voice in the writing room? Will the actors realize that there is a regular appearance / recurring character role up for grabs here?

It reminds me of how SNL players who spoof the presidential candidates get a regular job if their guy wins the election. Just that election has more at stake than fan reaction to a new Heroes character.
 
The Origins episodes will probably run during the midseason break of Heroes. The network likes the idea because it gives them 30 new episodes to run during the fall and spring.

Most likely, they will show about 16 or 17 episodes of Heroes Volume 2. Then run 6 straight episodes of Origins. Then finish the remaining 7 or 8 episodes of the regular show. They think that whatever character the fans choose from origins probably won't show up in the regular show until Season 3.
 
leekohler said:
What I liked most about the finale- they did indeed wrap things up. No BS cliffhangers to wait all summer for. Good job on that.
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Apart from Sylar crawling into the sewer, and not knowing if the Petrelli brothers lived....


Looking forward to Vol.2
 
there's actually one more character that could die soon, matt parkman. he was shot with four bullets in his chest and abdomen and left on a stretcher, even though he didn't have a breathing mask or anything. there's a possibility that matt dies before season two starts.

so that's four characters that have their life/death status unknown. i'm presuming that dl lives though this. here's what i think.

sylar: alive
peter: alive
nathan: alive
matt: dies shortly after show
 
furcalchick said:
there's actually one more character that could die soon, matt parkman. he was shot with four bullets in his chest and abdomen and left on a stretcher, even though he didn't have a breathing mask or anything. there's a possibility that matt dies before season two starts.

so that's four characters that have their life/death status unknown. i'm presuming that dl lives though this. here's what i think.

sylar: alive
peter: alive
nathan: alive
matt: dies shortly after show
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Don't forget DL.

balamw said:
What about Lindemann (alive or dead)?

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I'd be willing to bet money that Linderman is dead. However since season 2 looks like it will deal with previous generations of heroes he will probably be there.
 
furcalchick said:
but the producer said at least one major character died in that episode.
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Nathan would be my guess for the death. We played the part of the redemptive at the end bad guy, who dies after redeeming himself (or because he redeemed himself).
 
atszyman said:
Don't forget DL.
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He said something about thinking DL made it. In the online comic Niki says DL is going to be fine, but she could just be trying to make Micah feel better. I hope Matt is ok, but in a way, it almost makes more sense for him to die. He was wounded pretty badly. If nothing else, at least make him paralyzed or something. But they already did that with Nathan's wife, so who knows.

No idea if Nathan made it, but Peter certainly did... unless contract negotiations fall through.
 
solvs said:
He said something about thinking DL made it. In the online comic Niki says DL is going to be fine, but she could just be trying to make Micah feel better. I hope Matt is ok, but in a way, it almost makes more sense for him to die. He was wounded pretty badly. If nothing else, at least make him paralyzed or something. But they already did that with Nathan's wife, so who knows.

No idea if Nathan made it, but Peter certainly did... unless contract negotiations fall through.
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Also, what happened to mama Petrelli? She turned out to be a total creep.
 
Good interview article here, with some explanation about the finale and some hints about next season.

  • Peter apparently can only use one power at a time
  • No confirmation if Peter or Nathan survived, but "their story isn't over"
 
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