'Hey Siri' Event Roundup: iPhone 6s, iPad Pro, New Apple TV and More

[Wolfpup]

Doing any of that would be a step backwards.

Why was the iPad successful? Because it was the first tablet with a mobile OS.

Having more features that makes it vastly more useful would be a "step backwards"?

Tablets are not meant to have desktop OS.

This doesn't mean anything. The only reason you need a crippled OS on a tablet is if you haven't figured out how to run a real OS on a tablet. Microsoft's been showing how it's done for years now. The idea was pretty obvious, really, and it's what I had hoped Apple was doing for the ORIGINAL iPad (though I realize the hardware wasn't quite there at the time to pull that off, arguably).

The two things I still want an iPad for are all related to using it to read. Apple offers the ability to lower the brightness (or at least simulate that) in reading "apps", and Marvel has an offline, tablet formatted unlimited reading app. Technically you can use the web site on a Surface, but I'd rather have the app.

Those are the only two reasons I'm considering another iPad over a Surface, but super disappointed they're not using real USB...

 

[aront]

Eliminating optical out on the ATV was perhaps the stupidest decision ever made. Congratulations Tim, you just killed half your ATV sales.

 

[62tele]

Gee, so many negative comments. After all, Apple is just "catching up", the iPad Pro is apparently chasing the Surface Pro, Apple TV is a failure because it doesn't have 4K. Why buy anything Apple?
Personally, I think 3D touch appears to be awesome. I already love photos on my iPhone 6 which are already outstanding quality but will be even better now.
I have been holding off buying a new Apple TV, waiting for this version and it does not disappoint me in the least. I will order as soon as it's available. The interface and Siri features will make using it a breeze.
I don't need an iPad Pro because I'm happy with my Air. It does what a tablet is supposed to do in mind in a mobile world. My Air doesn't replace my desktop. It augments it.
Since so many of you are unimpressed or disappointed I am sure you'll be happy switching to Android or continuing to use the Android, MS or Roku device of choice.

 

[MH01]

I believe this happened before with another (original?) AppleTV at one point. I remember at one point shooting video on my phone and it not being able to play on the AppleTV without conversion, but I don't remember which phone or which AppleTV.

I don't mind not having 4k via iTunes, but geez the cheapest devices have 4k playback. Not a deal breaker as I never expected Apple to offer 4k

 

[OTACORB]

You described why I no longer use an iPhone. The don't offer enough extra value for the price. I can get a damn good phone that compares well to an iPhone in a lot of ways for less than $500. I'd probably rather still use an iPhone, all things being equal, but to me there isn't enough extra "value" in the iPhone to justify the increased cost. And it didn't used to be this way. Three years ago, nothing Android could really compare to the iPhone.

Well there are comparable Android phones. I went Android about 3 years ago and after that nightmare I am coming back to iPhone. The lagging, the slow response times, the having to clear cache on apps and the phones partition cache to keep it speedy, not to mention bluetooth that can't stream music without skipping and stuttering. This has been the norm on ALL android phones and I've used a few different ones over those 3 years.

I am always amazed how some people expects Apple iPhones should do everything from wiping their rear ends to making toast for them. All the ones that are saying I going to pass Apple is playing catch up, will be the first in line to pick one up. People just like to complain. Well they aren't playing catch up with a laggy OS, having to clear cache almost weekly, and dealing with stuttering bluetooth when streaming music. Apple at least does pay attention to the little details that impacts the user experience.

Given that I am still using a 2nd gen Apple TV, I will upgrade and I honestly don't care that it's not 4K video. Most people I know that aren't tech geeks have not run out and bought a 4K TV. In fact a lot of people still have 720p TV's. Apple doesn't have to be cutting edge which is what it sounds like so many seem to always want them to be. They are just way smarter than that these days. Samsung has tried to be cutting edge and what have they gotten for it? Sagging sales and laying off 10,000 employees.

 

[Crzyrio]

Having more features that makes it vastly more useful would be a "step backwards"?



This doesn't mean anything. The only reason you need a crippled OS on a tablet is if you haven't figured out how to run a real OS on a tablet. Microsoft's been showing how it's done for years now. The idea was pretty obvious, really, and it's what I had hoped Apple was doing for the ORIGINAL iPad (though I realize the hardware wasn't quite there at the time to pull that off, arguably).

The two things I still want an iPad for are all related to using it to read. Apple offers the ability to lower the brightness (or at least simulate that) in reading "apps", and Marvel has an offline, tablet formatted unlimited reading app. Technically you can use the web site on a Surface, but I'd rather have the app.

Those are the only two reasons I'm considering another iPad over a Surface, but super disappointed they're not using real USB...

Because all desktop OS are not made for multi touch or touch screens.

Microsoft has attempted to put a desktop OS on a tablet for the past 2 decades and they always thought it was a great idea but as we continue to see how it has failed every time. It seems like a great idea on paper, but when someone attempts to use it as a tablet it is a very frustrating experience.

everyone I know that bought a Surface thought, Great I am getting 2 things for the price of one. But they quickly found that they got neither. That it made the most sense to use it as a laptop, but it was barely a laptop.

 

[pcmike]

So how does 3D Touch play with a glass screen protector? Anyone?

 

[QuarterSwede]

So how does 3D Touch play with a glass screen protector? Anyone?

Shouldn't effect it but we won't really know till someone tries it.

 

[B4U]

Optical image stabilizer is still a plus only feature...
Does it really not fit in the smaller phone or is it typical Apple's darn greed?

 

[jtrenda33]

No confirmation on 2GB of RAM has me a little worried

about what? iPhones are smooth operators. only androids need all that extra memory.

 

[Denmac1]

My only problem with today's event was Tim Cook. I grind my teeth and hold my breath every time he takes the stage, counting the seconds until someone else come to take over. I just would love to see an Apple Event with Tim Cook only sitting in the first row.

At least he didn't do the update thing. Phil & Craig were good. Eddy needs to get some fashion ideas from Angela, and Oh..don't drink before going onstage..he just wasn't there...

 

[woodynorman]

Did anyone see or hear any mention of a new Bluetooth backlit wireless keyboard for iMac? I need a new keyboard bad. I swear I saw rumors of it, but maybe they were just that.

 

[Denmac1]

Event was decent, but nothing earth shattering.

Watch..looking forward to os2. Already have mine and like the SS.
ATV.....No HomeKit update..I just stream movies. Know how to find them. My ATV 3 still works.
iPad Pro...Nice, but I think more for Enterprise. Just upgraded to iPad Air 2, works well for my consumption.
iPhone..Once again, some nice touches, but I still personally enjoy the size of my 5s.

Opinions are mine..your milage may vary.

 

[Denmac1]

Tim Cook really needs to go. Each new "update" turns out to be nothing but disappointment.

The new Apple is all about gimmicks, marketing and profit margins, and little in way of substance and progress.

They're not about to do anything with Tim. Too much money in the bank.

There still isn't a revolutionary new product. Watch is nice and I like mine. Still, it's just an accessory.

 

[Denmac1]

So how does 3D Touch play with a glass screen protector? Anyone?

Bueller?

 

[George Dawes]

Jeff Williams has all the charisma of a gas pump , don't let him do any more presentations please !!!! He sucked all the life out of the apple watch demo , it was terrible.

Craig for software and Phil for hardware and Tim for the boring bits

 

[burgman]

I watched the keynote on a Roku 3 using Twit Tv, Watched Imore live Blog on my Surface pro 3. Why would a SP3 user give up Windows 10 for IOS 9? As a Mac user for 11 years I sold my Air 2. Windows 10 has brought me back. My 6+ is a keeper until the 7 next year, keeping my Apple TV 3's only for ITunes purchased movies, sold my MacBook retina. Hey Siri, Should I give up my .MAC email address because I'm unfaithful ?

 

[burgman]

Because all desktop OS are not made for multi touch or touch screens.

Microsoft has attempted to put a desktop OS on a tablet for the past 2 decades and they always thought it was a great idea but as we continue to see how it has failed every time. It seems like a great idea on paper, but when someone attempts to use it as a tablet it is a very frustrating experience.

everyone I know that bought a Surface thought, Great I am getting 2 things for the price of one. But they quickly found that they got neither. That it made the most sense to use it as a laptop, but it was barely a laptop.

Windows 10 is a game changer, I agree 8 and somewhat 8.1 was awful. Can't wait to see SP4 and full W10 release in November

 

[darkknight14]

My only problem with today's event was Tim Cook. I grind my teeth and hold my breath every time he takes the stage, counting the seconds until someone else come to take over. I just would love to see an Apple Event with Tim Cook only sitting in the first row.

I disagree, Tim Cook's delivery is fluid and strong, I would put him up there with Phil S. I enjoyed todays event from the announcements through to the presentation itself.

 

[darkknight14]

I am guessing no international pricing has been released yet?

 

[slu]

Well there are comparable Android phones. I went Android about 3 years ago and after that nightmare I am coming back to iPhone. The lagging, the slow response times, the having to clear cache on apps and the phones partition cache to keep it speedy, not to mention bluetooth that can't stream music without skipping and stuttering. This has been the norm on ALL android phones and I've used a few different ones over those 3 years.

I am always amazed how some people expects Apple iPhones should do everything from wiping their rear ends to making toast for them. All the ones that are saying I going to pass Apple is playing catch up, will be the first in line to pick one up. People just like to complain. Well they aren't playing catch up with a laggy OS, having to clear cache almost weekly, and dealing with stuttering bluetooth when streaming music. Apple at least does pay attention to the little details that impacts the user experience.

Given that I am still using a 2nd gen Apple TV, I will upgrade and I honestly don't care that it's not 4K video. Most people I know that aren't tech geeks have not run out and bought a 4K TV. In fact a lot of people still have 720p TV's. Apple doesn't have to be cutting edge which is what it sounds like so many seem to always want them to be. They are just way smarter than that these days. Samsung has tried to be cutting edge and what have they gotten for it? Sagging sales and laying off 10,000 employees.

I don't have any issues with Bluetooth, a laggy OS, or clearing cache. Hell, I'd have to look up exactly how to even do so.

That being said, you are entitled to prefer iOS over Android. Sounds like the premium is there for you to pay more for iPhone. It is not there for me.

BTW, Samsung says they are not laying off 10,000:http://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20150909001144

 

[Wolfpup]

Because all desktop OS are not made for multi touch or touch screens.

False. OS X isn't because Apple randomly can't get their act together and make it so. Windows works fantastically with "multi-touch and touch screens" and has for years now.

 

[Crzyrio]

False. OS X isn't because Apple randomly can't get their act together and make it so. Windows works fantastically with "multi-touch and touch screens" and has for years now.

Both OS X and Windows will work with multi-touch and touch screens but they weren't 'made' for them. Microsoft is slowly trying to make Windows compatible with both but it is not there yet. And all applications that are put out on Desktop OS' are optimized for your mouse not fingers.

 

[Poochi]

USD/CAD exchange rate priced me out of this upgrade.

I cannot justify paying $250 CAD more than what I paid for iPhone 6 for last year for those "improvements"

With taxes and FOREX, in Canadian Dollar, - Apple used 36.5% markup for CAD/USD exchange... (and before AppleCare):
iPhone 6S - $1309 CAD
iPhone 6S Plus - $1456 CAD
iPad Mini 4 - $744 CAD

iPad Pro - $1463 CAD, then add on top pencil and keyboard case.. going to run close to $2k, just not worth it

 

[Wolfpup]

Both OS X and Windows will work with multi-touch and touch screens but they weren't 'made' for them.

Windows is absolutely made for touch screens.

Microsoft is slowly trying to make Windows compatible with both but it is not there yet.

It's been there for years, and works great.

And all applications that are put out on Desktop OS' are optimized for your mouse not fingers.

This is completely false. For years now tons of Windows programs have been optimized for touch (including Explorer and Office) and as it turns out, actually programs that weren't usually work flawlessly on touch screens too.