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Because Apple doesn't want their support forums and staff inundated with people complaining about battery life. Like others have said, I suspect the new iPhone will have hardware that supports Siri always listening without needing to be plugged in.

This is exactly why. I know a genius who told me that over half of the people complaining about battery life have every feature on and brightness set to 100%.
 
But how does it know where you are? is this where the iWatch comes in?! It all makes sense now/..

Yeah or how strong it picks up your voice closest device to you will have loudest decibel

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I do not have iPhone to test... So I do not know if you can take it to your ear to activate Siri... .

Yes... To use OK Google other than Moto X, you need physically touch the phone... That is annoying...but you do not have to plug in.. That is a plus...

So except for the moto x it acts the same way siri does (requires contact/touch).

Honestly, I wonder how much battery is required by the moto x to always have a mic on, I would hope that apps don't have access to this microphone.
 
Once they figure out how to implement it efficiently, they'll remove the restriction. Rare case of Apple putting the cart before the horse. Not necessarily a bad thing, as the key use is in the car and your phone is most likely plugged into your car system (they assume).

This sounds an awful lot like a half baked feature.

Haven't you knocked Samsung for their half baked features before? Yet here you seem very understanding ("not necessarily a bad thing") when Apple does it.

I've been a long time lurker. Your colors are showing again.
 
This sounds an awful lot like a half baked feature.

Haven't you knocked Samsung for their half baked features before? Yet here you seem very understanding ("not necessarily a bad thing") when Apple does it.

I've been a long time lurker. Your colors are showing again.

Primary use for such a feature would be true "hands free" in the car. It worked flawlessly when I used it yesterday.

When I talk about half-baked features that Samsung implements, I'm talking about features that work half the time and don't the other half - even when they are supposed to work.

There's a difference between not well thought out and somewhat unfinished...even though "Hey Siri" works as a finished product (it's only my opinion they will remove the restriction).

But hey, I hate Samsung and love Apple so - what do you expect. I could sit here and gush about how wonderful Samsung is and you'd still read into it what you think I'm about. I'm not going to try to change your perceptions or biases. I'll say what I say. You don't like it, tough cookies.

(nvm I called the GS4 - minus TouchWiz - one of the best smartphones of 2013 in my review last year....but I'm sure you missed "lurking" there)
 
Primary use for such a feature would be true "hands free" in the car. It worked flawlessly when I used it yesterday.

When I talk about half-baked features that Samsung implements, I'm talking about features that work half the time and don't the other half - even when they are supposed to work.

There's a difference between not well thought out and somewhat unfinished...even though "Hey Siri" works as a finished product (it's only my opinion they will remove the restriction).

But hey, I hate Samsung and love Apple so - what do you expect. I could sit here and gush about how wonderful Samsung is and you'd still read into it what you think I'm about. I'm not going to try to change your perceptions or biases. I'll say what I say. You don't like it, tough cookies.

(nvm I called the GS4 - minus TouchWiz - one of the best smartphones of 2013 in my review last year....but I'm sure you missed "lurking" there)


Did you call Apple Maps half baked?
 
Did you call Apple Maps half baked?

LOL....Its true.



As for the Hey Siri - Feature ... It smart. Lets say your phone on the charger on the bed. and you are away from it... instead of running to it, you can just talk to it... not sure why anyone that has hand free to use the phone will speak to it.
 
Did you call Apple Maps half baked?

For much of the world, yes. For me, no.

I live in the US - here maps work just fine and have additional features Google Maps didn't have in the iOS app that it had on Android.

But yes, for many I understand and acknowledge Apple Maps has been bad. Unfortunately, there's no better way for something like a maps app to get better than with crowd sourced info.

That's how Google did it - 8 years of information later and its great. Apple is on year 2. I also cut them some slack on that.

You also should look at WHY Apple broke away from Google on the maps thing. Google used it as a selling point for Android because it withheld things like vector based maps and turn-by-turn. And they definitely should've done that - I would've done the same thing had I been Google.

Apple had to weigh the cost and they bit the bullet and made their own so they could have the same feature set.
 
For much of the world, yes. For me, no.

Then maybe you ought to respect when others give Samsung credit for their "half baked" features because they work for and are used by those people.

Maybe this is why people call you what they call you in the other threads. Your offering of supposedly logical and balance POVs seems to go only one way.

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LOL....Its true.



As for the Hey Siri - Feature ... It smart. Lets say your phone on the charger on the bed. and you are away from it... instead of running to it, you can just talk to it... not sure why anyone that has hand free to use the phone will speak to it.


I agree. I think it's a great feature to add. I'm glad Apple took a page out of "Ok Google Now" with Siri. I've been using "OK Google Now" on my Moto X and it's been helpful. I look forward to using the same idea on my 5C as well.
 
Then maybe you ought to respect when others give Samsung credit for their "half baked" features because they work for and are used by those people.

Maybe this is why people call you what they call you in the other threads. Your offering of supposedly logical and balance POVs seems to go only one way.

There's a select few posters who seem to have a problem with me - a few who can't really even articulate their displeasure without resorting to tired "fanboy" and "sheep" comments.

I really couldn't care less what THEY think. It's everyone else reading that I post for - because hopefully my view offers the other side.

I don't feel like I need to take up the "defend Samsung" mantle here - because for one, I don't use their products primarily and two, there are PLENTY of people here who do that.

If I'm ever overly one-sided I apologize. I always try to make sure people know I'm speaking from my own thoughts and opinions.
 
My theory; iPhone 6 will have an always listening coprocessor to avoid battery drain and the "Hey Siri" ability will be an option to enable at all times and not just when plugged in.
 
So, I'm driving down the road while my DD11 is watching a review of features in iOS 8 on her iPad. The person doing the review says, "Hey SIRI" and my iPhone cuts on interrupting the video's sound because of the Bluetooth.
 
Hey Siri!

Why are people comparing OK Google with Hey Siri? OK Google cannot read new messages and reply. OK Google cannot read new email. Ok Google cannot toggle device services such as Wifi, BT, etc. Ok Google isn't as robust as Siri when it comes to totally hands free. I also have a power case so I can invoke Hey Siri without my iPhone being tethered to a power supply.
 
There is a temporary work around to make Hey Siri work without being plugged in. you just have to activate Siri first and then you can keep saying Hey Siri after each use because when it's on the Siri screen Siri is always listening. So if you're like sitting in the car without a charger you could just press down the button quick and then you can continue talking as long as you want hands-free. Just may not the best for battery life.

Also, for me, Hey Siri is buggy. Most of the time it's not sure when I'm done talking and so it just sits there forever listening until I have to eventually tap the screen to make it stop.
 
My theory; iPhone 6 will have an always listening coprocessor to avoid battery drain and the "Hey Siri" ability will be an option to enable at all times and not just when plugged in.

How does this fit in with the iWatch? We saw audio iMessages that would automatically record and send by raising and lowering the phone. Naturally this would perfect for a watch. BUT how does 'hey siri' connect? The battery is a problem with the watch, so would it be possible to have that listening coprocessor in the watch itself?

Or (just brainstorming) could they have the mic in the watch turn on when raised (certain distance from Bluetooth connected iPhone).


Sorry for taking this off track, but I really think the "hey Siri" has more to do with iWatch than the iPhone6.
 
This Hey Siri thing doesn't work well enough from a distance. My iPad 4 can't understand what I say from just a 2m distance. The only thing it recognizes is "Hey Siri". Maybe you have to be in very quiet room, I don't know. I had a window open and you heard some birds and distant car driving noises.

No problems with iPad in my hands, but then I don't need Hey Siri.
 
How does this fit in with the iWatch? We saw audio iMessages that would automatically record and send by raising and lowering the phone. Naturally this would perfect for a watch. BUT how does 'hey siri' connect? The battery is a problem with the watch, so would it be possible to have that listening coprocessor in the watch itself?

Or (just brainstorming) could they have the mic in the watch turn on when raised (certain distance from Bluetooth connected iPhone).


Sorry for taking this off track, but I really think the "hey Siri" has more to do with iWatch than the iPhone6.

I agree more with Mercifull. Every since Google made came out with always listening Google Now last year - I knew Apple's next iPhone would have it. It makes sense since Apple just made a baby-step with "Hey Siri" (while plugged in).

But I won't be surprised if additional functionality came with the Apple Watch like you're saying.
 
This Hey Siri thing doesn't work well enough from a distance. My iPad 4 can't understand what I say from just a 2m distance. The only thing it recognizes is "Hey Siri". Maybe you have to be in very quiet room, I don't know. I had a window open and you heard some birds and distant car driving noises.

No problems with iPad in my hands, but then I don't need Hey Siri.

Did you try this?

1) "Hey Siri"

2) Wait a second for the Siri voice prompt

3) Then continue with your voice request.
 
Any way of changing the command to something that's not naff? Such as 'Lookup'. 'Hey Siri' is naff. I don't want to make friends with my phone.
 
The Moto X has an always on voice assistant and the way they got around battery issues was by having a lower-power processing core dedicated to processing voice and constantly listening.

This is a very similar solution to the M8 processor introduced in the iPhone 5S, so I'm guessing that there is a good chance that an always-on Siri will be a headlining feature of the iPhone 6 (with possibly an upgraded M8 processor for the task or an entirely new core).

I think you're on to something there.
 
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