High Rate Of Bannings Recently

[Flowbee]

I find it far more pleasant that many forums out there - hence why there are more bannings from those who disrupt the applecart; not so much with their views but with their ways of expressing them.

I might give you less knowledgeable compared to places like the Mac Ach or Macosxhints but less intelligent? I'd disagree on that one for most of the regulars here. But since MR comes up pretty high on the list of Mac sites, I suspect we get more than our fair share of hit-and-runs who make particularly stupid comments on new hardware/software and are rarely seen again.

I also think people feel more comfortable posting their "newbie" questions here in large part due to the pleasant atmosphere, which explains why the MR community may seem less knowledgeable in general... newbie discussion is a lot more welcome here than at those other boards. It's a great way to build a loyal community.

 

[MacNut]

Can we have MacRumors court, the banned can plead there case in front of a panel of members and they get to decide there fate. The Mods can be the prosecutors and a defense attorney can be assigned.

 

[mkrishnan]

I also think people feel more comfortable posting their "newbie" questions here in large part due to the pleasant atmosphere, which explains why the MR community may seem less knowledgeable in general... newbie discussion is a lot more welcome here than at those other boards. It's a great way to build a loyal community.

With respect to help request threads and problem solving, I've found that when I search for solutions to problems, I find relevant threads already exist on MacOSXhints slightly more often than here. But then the relevant threads there are very hard to follow and understand. When I find a thread here, it's usually very helpful either in clearly explaining a solution or identifying that there isn't one. But then again (erm, I don't want this to sound snobbish...) I think most of the time when I search the questions I am asking are not in the noob territory. And also more often than not they're not that amenable to solutions....

 

[jsw]

Can we have MacRumors court, the banned can plead there case in front of a panel of members and they get to decide there fate. The Mods can be the prosecutors and a defense attorney can be assigned.

We already have that. We ban 'em, and they can appeal to arn.

It works pretty well. Let me know if you'd like to try out the system.

 

[skoker]

yet another ban??
https://forums.macrumors.com/members/58297/

heh "uses search function, types in banned, get 1,500 results"

This couldn't have helped him much:

Your dentist is talking out of his asshat (...)

 

[mkrishnan]

This couldn't have helped him much:

Agreed...a person can be an ass hat, but how can they talk out of one?

 

[Blue Velvet]

This couldn't have helped him much:

You know what? I don't think we should talk about individual people's bannings.

Those in glass houses...

 

[Macaddicttt]

You know what? I don't think we should talk about individual people's bannings.

Those in glass houses...

Aww... And I was just going to bring up a recent banning that most people would find interesting, but I think went under most people's radar...

 

[JRM PowerPod]

Can Arn be banned?

 

[Macaddicttt]

Can Arn be banned?

I believe that question is akin to "Can Jesus microwave a borrito to be so hot, He Himself cannot eat it?"

The answer is yes, but He could still eat it. It's hard on the brain...

 

[jsw]

Can Arn be banned?

Yes, Arn can be banned. But only if both Chuck Norris and Jack Bauer defeat him in hand-to-hand combat.

By the way, speculating that Arn could lose to either Chuck Norris or Jack Bauer is a bannable offense.

 

[calculus]

Well, I'm intrigued by the whole issue of banning. I don't want to go into specifics but I have seen threads where, in my understanding of 'the rules', almost every other poster should have been banned. I've also seen some personal insults go 'unpunished' - I guess it depends whether anyone complains or not. I think it can be very subjective and down to who's about at the time. That said, nothing's perfect and on the whole I think that things are handled well here.

 

[WildCowboy]

Well, I'm intrigued by the whole issue of banning. I don't want to go into specifics but I have seen threads where, in my understanding of 'the rules', almost every other poster should have been banned. I've also seen some personal insults go 'unpunished' - I guess it depends whether anyone complains or not. I think it can be very subjective and down to who's about at the time. That said, nothing's perfect and on the whole I think that things are handled well here.

The mods strive for a consistent application of the forum policies, but that is of course impossible to achieve in practice. They do come pretty darn close though. If you see personal insults, by all means report it...I do. The mods can't look at every post; they need the assistance of members like you to draw their attention to problem areas.

 

[jsw]

Well, I'm intrigued by the whole issue of banning. I don't want to go into specifics but I have seen threads where, in my understanding of 'the rules', almost every other poster should have been banned. I've also seen some personal insults go 'unpunished' - I guess it depends whether anyone complains or not. I think it can be very subjective and down to who's about at the time. That said, nothing's perfect and on the whole I think that things are handled well here.

Actually, most times it does come down to what was reported. We don't read all posts in all threads, and so we rely upon the membership to report questionable posts. Sometimes we see nothing wrong with them, sometimes we edit or delete the posts, and/or sometimes we PM or ban members as a result.

It is rare for a non-newbie-spammer to get a permanent ban, especially with the first rule break, but it happens. It all comes down to (a) severity of the violation, (b) prior history of the member, and, to a degree, (c) how lenient the mod feels at the time.

Edit: or just see Cowboy's post above...

 

[calculus]

Is the advice any different if one believes that a moderator is posting inappropriately?

 

[Flowbee]

By the way, speculating that Arn could lose to either Chuck Norris or Jack Bauer is a bannable offense.

*flowbee quickly edits his MR fan fiction*

...whew...

 

[bousozoku]

Is the advice any different if one believes that a moderator is posting inappropriately?

You should report anything inappropriate, regardless of the person posting.

 

[Applespider]

I don't want to go into specifics but I have seen threads where, in my understanding of 'the rules', almost every other poster should have been banned. I've also seen some personal insults go 'unpunished' - I guess it depends whether anyone complains or not. .

There may be cases where personal insults are edited out but the poster isn't banned - perhaps because it's a first offense, perhaps because it was pretty minor.

And it's always possible that what looks like an insult might be some jibing between members who know each other well rather than truly insulting
The Community forum is slightly more lax than the others in terms of the 'sense' of the posts in there.

 

[Doctor Q]

Is the advice any different if one believes that a moderator is posting inappropriately?

bousozoku is correct. We depend on reports for most moderation. If you need a personal reply about a complaint, send a Private Message to a specific moderator or administrator or e-mail directly to arn. Otherwise, the Report Bad Post

feature is the way to let us know what's bugging you. Every single report is considered, and action is always taken when it is judged to be warranted.

 

[jsw]

Is the advice any different if one believes that a moderator is posting inappropriately?

I know I've been reported before, although that particular report was the result of... other things. However, yes, by all means report any posts you feel are inappropriate.

For what it's worth, all mods/gods can see all post reports, so, if you would rather not alert someone that they've been reported, feel free, as Doctor Q mentioned, to PM/email a specific moderator.

 

[skoker]

I know I've been reported before, although that particular report was the result of... other things. However, yes, by all means report any posts you feel are inappropriate.

For what it's worth, all mods/gods can see all post reports, so, if you would rather not alert someone that they've been reported, feel free, as Doctor Q mentioned, to PM/email a specific moderator.

As another little tidbit, if you've got something that needs to be looked at/taken care of quickly, you can go HERE:

https://forums.macrumors.com/showgroups.php

and see what 'macrumors Demi-God (moderator)' and 'macrumors God' s are online at the time. It's no use PM'ing a mod who won't get your message for another 12 hours

 

[calculus]

All - thanks for all the tips. I hope I never have to use them!

 

[MacNut]

As another little tidbit, if you've got something that needs to be looked at/taken care of quickly, you can go HERE:

https://forums.macrumors.com/showgroups.php

and see what 'macrumors Demi-God (moderator)' and 'macrumors God' s are online at the time. It's no use PM'ing a mod who won't get your message for another 12 hours

I see some new Mods, when did this come about.

 

[WildCowboy]

I see some new Mods, when did this come about.

jsw and longofest were Mod-ified on April 28th.

 

[commonpeople]

I don't see why Technicolor was banned. He/She was mostly arguing with me at the end, but I don't personally feel that he stepped over the mark into direct name-calling. I even admit that he/she had some valid viewpoints to bring to the discussion even if I mostly disagreed with him/her.