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So the port on the far left with the tape over it - that'll be the Magsafe presumably? Isn't that a pretty strange place to have it? I'm not sure how convenient that would be....

And the hole next to it is the IR, right? Better than the front of the MBP like currently, I suppose.

No, the MagSafe is up the top in the same position it has always been in. If you bothered to check the other photographs, you'd see that ;)
 
Dunno about Pandas but those shots are what I'm expecting:

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how to explain that half black/half silver touchpad? does someone want to argue that black part is the glass touchpad we've heard about, with an LCD display adapted to computer uses?
 
Regarding the taped up "mystery port" located on the Macbook Pro...

Now that we have the MCP79 chipset from Nvidia (which I assume will be used in both the Macbooks and Macbook Pros)... What if that "port" is actually a switch?

From what I read earlier, the MCP79 chipset supports HybridSLI, which to my understanding is, being able to switch between discrete and integrated graphics (albeit a computer restart would be required). The point of this being, high-end graphics would be used when its needed and integrated graphics would be employed when high-end graphics are not needed which will, in turn, increase battery life.

In correlation, we know two things...

1. The MCP79 chipset has the capability to use HybridSLI. Whether Apple chooses to use the feature or not, is strictly up to them.
2. Apple cares a lot about battery performance. Actually... Not just Apple. Any company marketing a notebook would definitely want more battery performance and so, a feature like this seems like a huge plus to people who sometimes need more battery performance or graphics capability.

So going back to the switch... I know Sony notebooks (among others probably out there...) have a little switch to toggle between integrated (stamina) and discrete (speed) graphics. I think the picture attached speaks for itself...

mobile_pic5.jpg


What are your opinions on this?
 
USB is an unfunny joke for hard drives. FireWire is much faster, and actually has sufficient bus power to reliably power portable hard disks.
FireWire is an unfunny joke for harddrives just as well. Both are a bottleneck for external hard drives. And FireWire is only 10-15% faster, maybe a bit more with Mac OS X.
1. No FireWire means no camcorders.
Really? That's what I asked some on this thread a while ago. But many camcorders do come with USB ports. What are they made for?
2. No Target Disk Mode means no easy transfer of old data to new Macs, and it makes life a hell of a lot harder in service departments, most of which use FireWire hard disks to keep "Known-good" disks to boot from to help with diagnosis.
No need for FireWire.
You can do this via ethernet.

Booting via Ethernet?
No problem, has been done in the PC world for ages.

Target Disk Mode via Ethernet?
No problem. The MacBook Air kind of does is.

It all depends on the notebook's firmware.

* FW can provide up to 45W of power to a device.
Possibly that's defined within a standard.
Still... name a product that does.
The iMac or MacBook Pro can't.
Finally, even though it's much less noticeable than it used to be, USB transfers still burn through CPU
Like 2% more, in case of full load data transfers via USB.
And that was back on my lowly Mac mini (Core Duo).
while FW still consumes absolutely no CPU
Not sure if this is true... but applications over FireWire do.
Anyway... the point of CPU usage is greatly exaggerated, in my experience.

pretty much any modern PC motherboard includes FW400
Not true.
Most of the don't.
Only some high-end models.
 
No, the MagSafe is up the top in the same position it has always been in. If you bothered to check the other photographs, you'd see that ;)

I did see the other photos. The Macbook does indeed have the Magsafe down the other end. Unless I'm missing something (quite possible), there wouldn't be room to put a Magsafe on the MBP pictures at the other end.
 
Mysterious port

My bet is that the port with the tape over it in the pics is the spot where a sim card goes in. The reason for it being so big is to allow for a sliding sim tray.

Joshua.
 
The only reason I wanted FW to be included on the new MB is so I could disk-mode transfer my stuff from my current iBook to the new MB. If not, I'll just use a CAT5 cable and computer-computer transfer via shared folder :shrug:
 
Regarding the taped up "mystery port" located on the Macbook Pro...

Now that we have the MCP79 chipset from Intel (which I assume will be used in both the Macbooks and Macbook Pros)... What if that "port" is actually a switch?

From what I read earlier, the MCP79 chipset supports HybridSLI, which to my understanding is, being able to switch between discrete and integrated graphics (albeit a computer restart would be required). The point of this being, high-end graphics would be used when its needed and integrated graphics would be employed when high-end graphics are not needed which will, in turn, increase battery life.

In correlation, we know two things...


1. The MCP79 chipset has the capability to use HybridSLI. Whether Apple chooses to use the feature or not, is strictly up to them.
2. Apple cares a lot about battery performance. Actually... Not just Apple. Any company marketing a notebook would definitely want more battery performance and so, a feature like this seems like a huge plus to people who sometimes need more battery performance or graphics capability.

So going back to the switch... I know Sony notebooks (among others probably out there...) have a little switch to toggle between integrated (stamina) and discrete (speed) graphics. I think the picture attached speaks for itself...

mobile_pic5.jpg


What are your opinions on this?

well i thought it was a wifi hard switch with the indicator being the little unknown dot next to it...but i dunno...seems unlikely i know it sounds wierd and whiny....but apple usually doesnt like giving people options they dont absolutley need :(
 
You have it all wrong. The new thing will be UWS - Ultra Wide Screen. These pictured are confirmed to be real shots of the new MBP:

mbp.jpg

mbp2.jpg

mbp3.jpg
 
Regarding the taped up "mystery port" located on the Macbook Pro...

Now that we have the MCP79 chipset from Intel (which I assume will be used in both the Macbooks and Macbook Pros)... What if that "port" is actually a switch?

From what I read earlier, the MCP79 chipset supports HybridSLI, which to my understanding is, being able to switch between discrete and integrated graphics (albeit a computer restart would be required). The point of this being, high-end graphics would be used when its needed and integrated graphics would be employed when high-end graphics are not needed which will, in turn, increase battery life.

In correlation, we know two things...

1. The MCP79 chipset has the capability to use HybridSLI. Whether Apple chooses to use the feature or not, is strictly up to them.
2. Apple cares a lot about battery performance. Actually... Not just Apple. Any company marketing a notebook would definitely want more battery performance and so, a feature like this seems like a huge plus to people who sometimes need more battery performance or graphics capability.

So going back to the switch... I know Sony notebooks (among others probably out there...) have a little switch to toggle between integrated (stamina) and discrete (speed) graphics. I think the picture attached speaks for itself...

mobile_pic5.jpg


What are your opinions on this?

i think that's the best guess anyone has made so far. it'd be foolish for apple not to adopt that capability since a lot of other manufacturers are starting to use it.
 
i think that's the best guess anyone has made so far. it'd be foolish for apple not to adopt that capability since a lot of other manufacturers are starting to use it.

Because it requires the user to do something unnecessary.

If Apple adopted something similar, the computer would have to do it itself, rather than relying upon the user to decide.
 
Regarding the taped up "mystery port" located on the Macbook Pro...

I know Sony notebooks (among others probably out there...) have a little switch to toggle between integrated (stamina) and discrete (speed) graphics. I think the picture attached speaks for itself...

mobile_pic5.jpg


What are your opinions on this?

I can't see Apple sticking a massive switch on the side of the MacBook Pro. It would be a waste of space and if it looks anything like the Sony one you posted it would be really, really ugly.

This is not to discount your suggestion all together, however. I just think that Apple would far more likely work such an option into the System Preferences.
 
that port has to be an esata one, close to the hard drive. that's the only explanation that's acceptable so far for a MBP
 
how to explain that half black/half silver touchpad? does someone want to argue that black part is the glass touchpad we've heard about, with an LCD display adapted to computer uses?

This is a hideously ugly fake/shop.
Regarding the taped up "mystery port" located on the Macbook Pro...

Now that we have the MCP79 chipset from Intel (which I assume will be used in both the Macbooks and Macbook Pros)... What if that "port" is actually a switch?
MCP79 is from nvidia not intel.
What are your opinions on this?
This can be included in the power profile and automated, no need for an ugly switch. And I sure hope it's not one.
I did see the other photos. The Macbook does indeed have the Magsafe down the other end. Unless I'm missing something (quite possible), there wouldn't be room to put a Magsafe on the MBP pictures at the other end.
There's no photo of the mbp side that shows the whole side. It's simply cropped out.
Not sure if this is true...
That's the reason why FW gained such traction in high-bandwidth domains (e.g. video) in the first place.

That and the pitiful bandwidth of USB1 of course, but the CPU thing played a very important part.
 
WHy should I have to pay more for an old computer with lesser specs and a faulty graphics card ? If I really want a Mac, that's what I'll have to do though. Buy an old MBP. This is just all hitting me because I thought I would be able to get a new Macbook for a lot cheaper with everything I needed. I didn't realize Apple wouldn't include a firewire port just to try to get more $.

So now I have a decision. I hope I'm wrong come tuesday and the Macbook has a firewire. I can only wait. Then I'll decide if I should buy a 3 year old laptop or a new P.C . A choice I thought I wouldn't have to make. I honestly think I'll go with the P.C. I'll wait to Tuesday. I still get to complain until then though. :)
 
I think this bears repeating. Good time to get a discounted MB or MBP, depending on your needs. I haven't used a laptop with the chiclet keys but for now I'm glad my rev3 MBP has the normal ones. Compatibility may be the breaking point for some users, but bear in mind these new laptops will probably have a decent upgrade in cpu and gpu speed. Depends on your needs. *shrug*

I'm more interested to see if they will give out any more information on Snow Leopard at this release event. The new hardware in these laptops may be better suited to taking advantage of technology developed for 10.6, and I'd like to know if there's ever going to be any reason for me to upgrade from Tiger (perhaps benefits for CS4?). Laptops with anything less than a core2 duo may not see much benefit (and I'm still holding out that my cpu will).

even though there probably isn't going to be anything revolutionary in this release, i think the upgrades on the mb are very significant:

1. aluminum
2. led screen
3. larger multi touch trackpad
4. backlit keyboard (hopefully)
5. possibly lighter weight

just those changes alone makes me want to buy a new macbook, especially if it is aggressively priced. i've owned both a current gen mb and mba this year, but sold both hoping they can take many of the good attributes of the mba and add it to the mb.
 
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