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LoveCrusader said:
WHy should I have to pay more for an old computer with lesser specs and a faulty graphics card ? If I really want a Mac, that's what I'll have to do though. Buy an old MBP. This is just all hitting me because I thought I would be able to get a new Macbook for a lot cheaper with everything I needed. I didn't realize Apple wouldn't include a firewire port just to try to get more $.

So now I have a decision. I hope I'm wrong come tuesday and the Macbook has a firewire. I can only wait. Then I'll decide if I should buy a 3 year old laptop or a new P.C . A choice I thought I wouldn't have to make. I honestly think I'll go with the P.C. I'll wait to Tuesday. I still get to complain until then though. :)
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You're getting very annoying you know.
fuzzielitlpanda said:
even though there probably isn't going to be anything revolutionary in this release, i think the upgrades on the mb are very significant:

1. aluminum
2. led screen
3. larger multi touch trackpad
4. backlit keyboard (hopefully)
5. possibly lighter weight

just those changes alone makes me want to buy a new macbook, especially if it is aggressively priced. i've owned both a current gen mb and mba this year, but sold both hoping they can take many of the good attributes of the mba and add it to the mb.
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There's nothing truly significant (= revolutionary) here, esp. since a refurb 15" current-gen MBP should drop to ~ the top end of the current MB line after the release of the new lines, making most of these points moot.
California King said:
Aww, they kept the mini dvi port on the Macbook!
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no:
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Cousin Dirk said:
I can't see Apple sticking a massive switch on the side of the MacBook Pro. It would be a waste of space and if it looks anything like the Sony one you posted it would be really, really ugly.

This is not to discount your suggestion all together, however. I just think that Apple would far more likely work such an option into the System Preferences.
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I'm pretty sure that if Apple does go with "the switch", it'll be aesthetically in-tune with the rest of the computer...

But the thing I don't get with the whole System Prefs thing is that you have to choose when the computer is off (because it requires a reboot). In order to change it through System Prefs, you would have to turn it on, change the settings and reboot just to switch the graphics support.

As for being unnecessary, I don't see how it is unnecessary. Apple should have a hard time convincing the public on how to use it... and the computer should boot up just fine whichever configuration it may be in...

That's just my opinion... By the way, Apple notebooks don't have a hardware switch for WiFi either right?
 
Kilamite said:
Because it requires the user to do something unnecessary.

If Apple adopted something similar, the computer would have to do it itself, rather than relying upon the user to decide.
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how is letting the user decide a bad thing? the whole point of the hybrid graphics technology is to use whatever level of performance you think is necessary for a given situation. for example, you can switch to onboard graphics when you are doing general tasks and then switch to a dedicated solution when gaming. if the computer did it by itself, it would be very annoying for the user. why? because when you switch from onboard to discrete, 1. it requres a reboot, 2. if it doesn't require a reboot, there will be a pause that lasts a few seconds where the screen will go black.
 
kyungjin said:
I'm pretty sure that if Apple does go with "the switch", it'll be aesthetically in-tune with the rest of the computer...

But the thing I don't get with the whole System Prefs thing is that you have to choose when the computer is off (because it requires a reboot). In order to change it through System Prefs, you would have to turn it on, change the settings and reboot just to switch the graphics support.

As for being unnecessary, I don't see how it is unnecessary. Apple should have a hard time convincing the public on how to use it... and the computer should boot up just fine whichever configuration it may be in...

That's just my opinion... By the way, Apple notebooks don't have a hardware switch for WiFi either right?
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if you mean a physical switch no they dont
 
Masklinn said:
You're getting very annoying you know.

There's nothing truly significant (= revolutionary) here, esp. since a refurb 15" current-gen MBP should drop to ~ the top end of the current MB line after the release of the new lines, making most of these points moot.
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well that's why i mentioned that nothing revolutionary is going to happen, but i disagree if you think the changes to the mb are not significant.
 
kyungjin said:
because it requires a reboot
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Erm I want a source on that statement
kyungjin said:
By the way, Apple notebooks don't have a hardware switch for WiFi either right?
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They don't. And they don't need to reboot either.
fuzzielitlpanda said:
the whole point of the hybrid graphics technology is to use whatever level of performance you think is necessary for a given situation
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that's what the power management section of the system prefs is here for.
 
this taped covered mystery port this be a little mini screen with a slide lock...like how you unlock the iphone.....that could have multiple functions
 
owdin said:
I'm still wondering what the following thing could be on the "regular macbook"
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I'm personally hoping for a connection to that patented iMac-like dock. Maybe the dock could include many of the ports that the computer itself does not include, like FireWire.

Or it could just be a port like the USB on the :apple:TV, which does not actually have a use given by Apple and is just there for the future. ;)
 
abhimat.gautam said:
I'm personally hoping for a connection to that patented iMac-like dock. Maybe the dock could include many of the ports that the computer itself does not include, like FireWire.

Or it could just be a port like the USB on the :apple:TV, which does not actually have a use given by Apple and is just there for the future. ;)
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oh yeah this could be a hi speed infared thingamajig that connects wirelessly to the fabled "brick"

technology called spotlight?
 
Masklinn said:
Erm I want a source on that statement

They don't. And they don't need to reboot either.

that's what the power management section of the system prefs is here for.
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it's not the same thing. if you want to see how it works, look at the sony vaio z or read up more on the technology. the fact is that it will be user controlled if apple does decide to implement it.
 
Masklinn said:
* FW still "feels" faster than the equivalent USB when transferring files, so even when you're not doing heavy video or anything it feels much snappier
* FW can provide up to 45W of power to a device. USB? The standard is something like 1W or 2W, with ****** voltage, requiring power bricks for even some 2.5" (laptop) disks
* FW can be chained, that's damn nice. USB requires hubs, and doesn't work that well when a lot of hubs are hubbed
* Finally, even though it's much less noticeable than it used to be, USB transfers still burn through CPU, while FW still consumes absolutely no CPU

In the end, USB is mainly once more illustration of the "worse is better" principle.
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I'm betting a lot of these problems with USB (except chaining vs. hubs) to be solved with USB 3.0.

Power is still limited, although you can get up to 1.5 A (x 5 V = 7.5W) or 1.8A through the battery charging spec (simple chargers that plug into USB, no data AFAIK). You still won't be able to power floor fans or space heaters over USB, but thats ok.

Also keep in mind that only some IEEE1394 implementations are powered - Sony i.Link for example is not powered. This means that your external hard disk may still require power, or might not.

USB 3.0 also brings about a replacement for EHCI, called xHCI, which is rumored to provide substantially better performance. We'll know more soon, as xHCI is supposed to be published soon.

I for one will be admiring the new case design, but waiting for USB 3.0 in the displays and notebooks before I consider an equipment upgrade.
 
Masklinn said:
Erm I want a source on that statement

They don't. And they don't need to reboot either.

that's what the power management section of the system prefs is here for.
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If you meant reboot for switching wifi... That's not what I meant... The reboot is for switching graphics options (by the way, I don't know if forum posts qualify as solid proof but for something like this, I think it should suffice: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=56985)
 
abhimat.gautam said:
I'm personally hoping for a connection to that patented iMac-like dock. Maybe the dock could include many of the ports that the computer itself does not include, like FireWire.

Or it could just be a port like the USB on the :apple:TV, which does not actually have a use given by Apple and is just there for the future. ;)
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Actually it looks like a vent. From the inside of the casing, those appear to be vertical grille slits.
 
Target Disk Mode?
Don't need FireWire for it.*

Migration Assistent?
Don't need FireWire for it.*

External Boot?
Don't need FireWire for it.*

External Hard drives?
Don't need FireWire for them.**

iPods and iPhones?
Don't need FireWire for them.

Entry-level / inexpensive consumer camcorders?
Don't need FireWire for them.***

Professional audio devices?
Go, get a MacBook Pro.****

Professional video cameras?
Go, get a MacBook Pro.****


That's my final say on the FireWire issue until I see actual products announced on tuesday. I am not "against" FireWire. But it wouldn't surprise me at all if Apple dropped FW for the non-pro MacBook.

* Not necessarily at least. This can be done via Ethernet, depending on firmware implementation...
** FW is only a bit faster. Maybe 40 MBps vs. 30MBps, both are suboptimal.
*** I finally checked out some camcorders' descriptions. Even some HD camcorders seem to come USB-only.
**** After all there has to be some product differentation to the Pro line, not?
 
Wow. No firewire on the Macbook? I use firewire to back up my Macbook's data to my external drive via Time Machine. No firewire would be a huge pain. :(
 
fuzzielitlpanda said:
even though there probably isn't going to be anything revolutionary in this release, i think the upgrades on the mb are very significant:

1. aluminum
2. led screen
3. larger multi touch trackpad
4. backlit keyboard (hopefully)
5. possibly lighter weight

just those changes alone makes me want to buy a new macbook, especially if it is aggressively priced. i've owned both a current gen mb and mba this year, but sold both hoping they can take many of the good attributes of the mba and add it to the mb.
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actually, only your second point makes me want to buy one... I have a sony vaio sz1 for 2.5 years now and it has a led screen... I just can't go back to a normal screen after having had that kind of screen for so long! the quality is just so much better!
And I don't think I will change if the macbook doesn't have led screens...
 
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