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I bet they haven't release killer futures yet. And that will come with new iPhone 3.0 powerful enough to handle video recording too. Hmm...video recording I said? So why not go further and get video conferencing?...do I smell iChat AV. Ohh yes...its coming.
As I said erlier, they couldn't mention about any changes which could link to new iPhone. Thats why no video recording etc today. But see you this summer then:cool::D:cool:

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if a future iPhone gets video recording as a feature. Not sure if it would be the next one but it is surely on the roadmap.
 
I can't believe so many people voted "positive"!!

Don't you fanboys see what Apple is doing? By bringing out all these new features, Apple is forcing you to buy its products! You are becoming mindless locked in drone-slaves to the souless Apple that doesn't love you, just wants your money.

And for the exorbitant price of $9.95 just for an upgrade, when you can go to the local cell company and get a completely brand new phone for free!!

Besides, it's even more of a rip-off in the UK!!!!

All iPhone users, including original, day one, 1st gen users, will get the update completely free (sans MMS and stereo BT). After two years I think that's pretty good going. iPod touch users (right back to the first release) can get the update for $9.95 - for so-called "accounting purposes". Whether you think that is legitimate or not is another matter, but it still represents very good value to my mind.

After all, when we bought our original gear we knew what it did and what it didn't do. Now we're getting much more!
Ok, so a lot of it "should" have been available much earlier. Some things you really would have expected to have been in the original release. It's true. And yet Apple has sold a phenomenal number of devices as they are, and yet they are still giving us more.

As a developer, seeing the devices from the inside, and comparing against others I have coded against, the iPhone/ iPod touch is a dream! Sometimes I hit a wall and think, "I wish there was a way to do x". But in the big picture it's a tiny thing. And yet, from OS 3.0 on most of those walls have been removed! I am absolutely psyched to start writing for this release.

Ok, I admit I'm actually excited about some of the things that really should have been there already (Copy & Paste I'm looking at you), but there's so much that I really didn't expect in this release that's there to be even more excited about (e.g. In-App Purchasing - I know some people will say that everyone else can do this already - but as a small developer I can't tell you how liberating the app store model is in terms of infrastructure!).

So call me a fanboy if you like, but I'll take the free upgrade and look back at the rest of the field, thank you.
 
Third-Party Accessory Apps

This is why I've keep my old Stowaway Universal Bluetooth Keyboard in the drawer (but dumped the Palm and Razr on June 21, 2007). There are just some times when I want a real keyboard. Maybe soon, no more laptop on short trips.
 
Like many people said, these features should have been there from day one!

Anyways, I'm really sad that they didn't announce an option to change the SMS bubbles' color like in iChat!! I've always wanted that!!! I can't stand the green bubble anymore!!! but maybe they unveiled just the features that developers needed to know and there are still some cool features they will unveil this summer!! Perhaps they want to prevent competition to copy them during these months!
 
yeah cuz everything comes with everything the first time....i got my apple computing device in 1985 and it has never been updated and is better than whatever you have....in fact let lay off on all kinds of improvments on EVERYTHING...... change is for the weak

well, the Dual-Layer SD on my Apple IIc Plus still works even now, so...
 
Cool!!! So you guys are finally getting what I had on my jailbroken phone for a year?? And what every other phones had for 10? lol
 
I can't wait to be able to be able to use my YouTube account on the native YouTube app! Stocks are cool, I only pay attention to Citibank and Apple.
And Spotlight now on iPhone / iPod touch! Epic win!
Still confused about background processes though...:confused:
 
The MMS hardware limitation is a software one as they are more than capable of sending and receiving MMS. This is false differentiation by apple and an attempt to force you to upgrade.

I could not agree more.

Only sad...but happens all the time recently...

...and it all started with the iPhone SDK (Leopard and Intel Mac prerequisite)
 
Cool!!! So you guys are finally getting what I had on my jailbroken phone for a year?? And what every other phones had for 10? lol

So are you not going to bother upgrading to 3.0 then, seeing as you have all you need with your jailbroken phone?
 
I can't believe so many people voted "positive"!!

Don't you fanboys see what Apple is doing? By bringing out all these new features, Apple is forcing you to buy its products! You are becoming mindless locked in drone-slaves to the souless Apple that doesn't love you, just wants your money.

Don't forget that many people post positively to these boards in the hopes that it will help their stock.
 
tasks sync with iCal: NO?

Someone on the comments said there is task-to-iCal sync, but I can't see it mentioned anywhere in the press articles. I don't think there is. Doesn't anyone care about this. In over 300+ comments here on MacRumors, it seems only about one or two people cared about it. For me, it was a critically important feature that should have been there from day one. Even Microsoft has it in their Windows Mobile.
 
It doesn't matter what people thought Hulu was. ...Do a Google search "Hulu vs. iTunes" and you get 74 results. "YouTube vs Hulu" gets you 8,530.

I think it matters more what people were saying at the time, because they were on top of the situation.

Hulu is a competing revenue model to iTunes (ads vs. per item). I don't see why you're being so argumentative about this. I agree that Hulu is a nice site, and indeed, I use it quite a bit, in fact, I think it's fair to say that I've not purchased shows via iTunes because they're available on Hulu. That's competition!

Hulu could make their videos available in a format usable on the iPhone if they wanted to, just as YouTube did.

Also, on the Google numbers, try the search again: Hulu vs. iTunes = 141,000 results; Hulu vs. Youtube=483,000. (I agree that Hulu vs. youtube gets more, but not as drastically as you suggest).
 
Cool!!! So you guys are finally getting what I had on my jailbroken phone for a year?? And what every other phones had for 10? lol

I have a Samsung phone right now with no copy and paste, so stop lying. :p
 
iPhone users subscribe, unlike iPod Touch users.

Well, $20 of the 80 we iPhone users pay each month goes to Apple, & funds this software. What do you pay each month?

Every Touch upgrade has been a paid upgrade. The difference is in how Apple does its accounting thanks to the Sarbanes-Oxley legislation. The iPhone is accounted for via monthly subscription so Apple can give the upgrade away for free. The Touch is a onetime purchase accounted for only at purchase. That is the difference.

Also FWIW the upgrade isn't free for iPhone 2G owners since many of them will come off contract at the end of June.

We pay through the nose for our contracts. Apple see some of that. We all pay, this is Apple after all.

They pretty much did everything we could reasonably expect today tbh. I've felt a little let down by Apple recently so this restores the faith a little...

First gen owner though so that new iPhone hardware in the summer better be good as I'll probs want to update.

The difference in the way Apple accounts for an iPhone vs an iPod Touch has absolutely nothing to do with the monthly subscription fees that an iPhone user pays to AT&T. Even when part of the fees went to Apple with the original iPhone contracts.

It has to do with subscription accounting which is completely unrelated to monthly subscription fees.

That's a load of ****, have a read of good ol' Wikipedia

Equally, tethering requires NOTHING carrier side. If your phone has a data connection all tethering is, is sharing that data connection over bluetooth. What Apple actually mean is that they're providing the functionality for the carriers to limit/charge on top for. Other than that tethering is purely a phone > computer thing.

Of course, Apple can't enable tethering without the permission of the carrier. Most carriers in Europe have no problems with tethering. AT&T is a different story.

Of course this doesn't come with complaints. No MMS on the first gen phone due to hardware limitations? Maybe I just don't understand how MMS is transmitted and the hardware differences between the 3G and 1st gen, but that sounds entirely bogus and just comes off as attempting to cause people to upgrade (which I guess is just part of Apple's playbook, for example four-finger multitouch gestures). Lets hope they hear enough complaints to make it work before summer. If not, well, lets hope that the jailbreakers help us out here.

so what "hardware differences" prevent us 1st gen owners from having MMS capability? you honestly cant expect me to believe they're going to pawn it off as a "3g required" spec or some crap like that. Oh well, i'll just keep sending MMS messages perfectly well with SwirlyMMS. cuz it works just fine on 1st Gen hardware. I can understand no A2DP, that's fine with me, but come on... there's no significant hardware difference between 1st and 2nd gen besides the 3G chip. I call Bull*****.

other than that, im extremely happy with today's announcements.

Maybe they coded the app to work with the 3G radio and didn't want to go through the effort of backporting it to the older radio.

Errrm I think we're all funding it by the huge percentage of our monthly contract fee that Apple claim from the carriers :rolleyes:

According to reports, Apple doesn't receive any portion of the monthly contract fee for iPhone 3G users.
 
How do you install it once you download it?

How do you install it once you download it?
Any developers know how to install it? I already downloaded 3.0.
But iTunes seems to ignore it.
HELP!!!!
 
I can't never seem to watch streaming quicktime movies. Same for this one. I click the link and quicktime just keeps loading and loading and.. loading. It just won't play! Anyone else with this problem?
 
New hardware coming...iChat!

I thought this was a good event. Shows that Apple values the platform and values customers issues. They gave us, in my opinion, the obvious (ie. copy & paste, landscape keyboard, MMS). This event was really to get the SDK out to developers so that when they launch the new iPhone this summer, users won't be complaining about compatibility issues with their apps. I think the implementation of copy & paste as well as Spotlight are very good. Yes, some of the things we're going to get with 3.0 should have been there from the beginning but who cares. We're getting them now and that's all that matters. I think having a landscape keyboard and copy & paste will be the features that draw in the most new, skeptical, users. But what I found was odd is that Apple didn't demo iChat. We all know its coming. You can't tell me that in all of Cupertino, no one has thought of developing iChat. The only problem with demoing it, is that confirms that there will be major hardware revisions in the new model other than normal spec bumps (assuming its a full-featured video version of iChat). And with new hardware coming, who needs to buy a the current model now? Yet another reason they didn't demo anything having to do with video recording. Apple wants to continue to drive sales right up until they introduce the newest model. And I'm glad they didn't provide a list of all the new features. There needs to be some anticipation and excitement for the release of 3.0. The SDK is almost finished downloading for me so hopefully I'll get a chance to peek around it and see if there are any clues in there as to any possible new hardware. Though I highly doubt it. That will probably come in later builds of the SDK as we get closer to launch day. I also want to add that I'm totally happy that Apple decided to stick with the Push Notification Service. Background processes would kill the user-friendly and responsive feel of the iPhone. Not to mention drastically decrease battery life. We already know that iPhone users have more apps installed than the average smarthphone user on another platform. More apps equal more processes and that will quickly zap your battery. Though what I am disappointed about is no insight on the uptime of their Push service. Though I assume that if there is downtime, apps simply will function as they do now. So not too much to be angered about.
 
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