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I'm still mad Apple wouldn't allow me to install Mac OS X on my Mac Plus and I couldn't install iPhone 1.0 on my Newton. They keep forcing me to buy new hardware, and its angering me so much it hurts my head! If someone actually has links describing the cellular chipsets of the iPhone and iPhone 3G, and can show me how they're genuinely the exact same hardware (and that there is no difference between the EDGE and 3G MMS handling between them)... it would help to further bolster the case here.

~ CB

O.K., Einstein. Then tell me:

a) How come, I have been using MMS on GPRS-equipped phones for 6 years now?

b) How come, that the "3G is not necessary"-myth has survived for one year in the iPhone community?

So you are telling me, that tens of Apple software engineers are not able to implement a standardized protocol in the software of their phone?

Reality check: They perfectly could, if they wanted. They want you to buy the next gen phone. And maybe by the way subscribe to the next 10 levels of SuperMonkeyBall or get the new 'burp'-plugin for iFart. They want your money - that's all.
 
O.K., Einstein. Then tell me:

a) How come, I have been using MMS on GPRS-equipped phones for 6 years now?

b) How come, that the "3G is not necessary"-myth has survived for one year in the iPhone community?

So you are telling me, that tens of Apple software engineers are not able to implement a standardized protocol in the software of their phone?

Reality check: They perfectly could, if they wanted. They want you to buy the next gen phone. And maybe by the way subscribe to the next 10 levels of SuperMonkeyBall or get the new 'burp'-plugin for iFart. They want your money - that's all.

While that's a very good assessment, I would like for you to list me 10 or even 1 company that DOES NOT want your money.
 
Awesome explanation. That only leaves one question. So when you are not in an area with 3G service, or you happen to (for whatever reason) lose your 3G signal you will no longer be able to send or receive MMS?

Explanation: No, you will still be able to send and recieve MMS messages when you have 3G turned off (or no connection). Apple straight up lied when they said the 1st generation can not support MMS. 1st generation jailbreakers have been able to send MMS using SwirlyMMS for months.
 
Its really funny reading previous threads from days/months ago, of how most people said Apple will never give us MMS or Copy & Paste.

I don't think anyone expected Apple to give us everything in one update.

If Apple gives us Flash, Video and Voice Dialing this summer...oh wow! I wouldn't know what to do! LOL!
 
Its really funny reading previous threads from days/months ago, of how most people said Apple will never give us MMS or Copy & Paste.

I don't think anyone expected Apple to give us everything in one update.

If Apple gives us Flash, Video and Voice Dialing this summer...oh wow! I wouldn't know what to do! LOL!

If Apple did this, they would wipe out all competition.
 
While that's a very good assessment, I would like for you to list me 10 or even 1 company that DOES NOT want your money.

<sarcasm>
General Motors - at least if you look at their current car portfolio
</sarcasm>
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Point is taken. I'm just soooo tired of all these lame apologies trying to give Apple's business decisions a "It was not their fault!"-spin.

It is their fault. They don't want to put MMS in the first gen iPhone. Therefore you have an incentive to upgrade - especially all those folks, that kept telling "I don't need MMS".
 
I don't see the appeal in voice dialing whatsoever. It's cumbersome, it's slower than manually inputting the number / finding it in your contact list (or recent calls), it sometimes gets the number/name wrong when you speak it, etc etc etc.

Voice dialing always seemed like a gimmick to me. I had it on my old Moto E815 and never used it. If it's an issue of driving, you shouldn't be talking while driving anyway. If you must, get a handsfree system and dial at a stop light.
 
How do you install it once you download it?
Any developers know how to install it? I already downloaded 3.0.
But iTunes seems to ignore it.
HELP!!!!

If it works like previous releases: Become a registered developer for $99 per year.

This is for software developers. Don't install this on the iPhone that you actually use all day. The upgrade is permanent; you can't go back to earlier versions. Any bugs in this beta that affect you, you are stuck with it. This is for people who write applications, and need to test their shipping apps for 3.0 compatibility, or want to add features to their apps.

If I sign up, pay and download the 3.0 beta, can I them use it on working phone and get MMS now?

You really, really don't want to do this. If you are not a developer, don't touch it.
 
If it works like previous releases: Become a registered developer for $99 per year.

This is for software developers. Don't install this on the iPhone that you actually use all day. The upgrade is permanent; you can't go back to earlier versions. Any bugs in this beta that affect you, you are stuck with it. This is for people who write applications, and need to test their shipping apps for 3.0 compatibility, or want to add features to their apps.

What he/she said! The release is for software development purposes only.
 
hmmm

I wonder if iPod touch users are going to get the updated Google Maps now that we are paying for the upgrade (which is totally worth it)
 
There isn't even a phone out there that compares to iPhone 1.0 yet.

With this, Apple have just knocked the competition back to the stone age.

It's quite amusing to watch them squirm.
 
"Up" being a relative term here.

Wish Apple would just serve the vids through iTunes where they have the infrastructure in place to make it work. I rarely get the QT feed of these things to play and even when it does, it stutters badly.


I just watched the whole thing no problem at all:apple:
 
excited about the features. won't mind paying for this update. looking forward to syncing notes, landscape typing, etc. didn't get my ipod for things i hoped it could do someday so these additions are just icing on the cake.
 
...

My Sony Ericsson P800 had copy and paste and MMS, bluetooth, open apps. And I can't even remember how many years ago I had that!
Oh well many of you are fan enough for Apple to continue to walk all over everybody. Me I will never have an iPhone because of the stupid software restrictions and apps restrictions Apple still insists on imposing.


ya i would rather have an open environment with no form of responsibility or restriction. in fact, how about we just let everyone do whatever they want for the phone... that makes much more sense. No rules. Only chaos. I hope they never remove restrictions. In all honesty thats why I am so happy with the iPhone :) It is simple and easy to use, and although some of the features are coming in late in the game at least they are implementing them. Now that there is push and copy/paste I have no reason to stick with my blackberry 8900. And for the record, the 8900 is a royal pain to sync with ease on my iMac.
 
It's amazing Apple sold so many iPhones/ iPods Touch while the OS was still in its infancy.

This was a good event all-around. Apple will have 0 problems reinforcing its position in the industry in particular with the up-coming hardware upgrades.

I cannot wait for the new iPhone.

Its competitors are going to have an increasingly difficult time trying to catch-up.

Android should continue to gain traction but Win Mo and Symbian are done-for in the medium-term.
 
Of course it's for $$$. It took you that long to figure it out?

How many people can hit 5GB on heavy iPhone usage? How long would it take you to hit 5GB with tethering? You can't be that dense as to not understand how much more bandwidth tethering would take up...can you?

People _are_ that dense. They don't understand that at an "all you can eat" buffet you don't pay for what the greediest eater imaginable can stuff into his belly, but you pay for what the average diner who wants to enjoy his or her food and not throw up afterwards will eat.
 
I don't see the appeal in voice dialing whatsoever. It's cumbersome, it's slower than manually inputting the number / finding it in your contact list (or recent calls), it sometimes gets the number/name wrong when you speak it, etc etc etc.

Voice dialing always seemed like a gimmick to me. I had it on my old Moto E815 and never used it. If it's an issue of driving, you shouldn't be talking while driving anyway. If you must, get a handsfree system and dial at a stop light.

In the UK it's illegal to drive and talk with a phone to your head or touch the phone keypad, but you can use a bluetooth headset, so speech control is useful. But people don't seem to care and text, talk, dial whilst driving anyway.

Also, as stated MMS was developed before 3G. All 3G does is give you faster data speeds which leads to video calling, better call quality etc. It's then up to the apps how to use that speed, we are currently up to 3.5g speeds with HSDPA.
 
For those who don't know how to install iPhone 3.0

For those who don't know how to install iPhone 3.0

I found out how to do it. I was lost too.
It's extremely simple.

You simply Option-Click the Check For Update button in iTunes after you've downloaded the file.
Then choose the file.
That's all folks!

-brian :)
 
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