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Highlights of Apple's iPhone OS 3.0 Preview: Copy and Paste, A2DP, MMS, Much More

puffnstuff said:
maybe it's a good idea for the phone but for the touch it would be nice to have the opportunity to disable it

Also I would have like the option for more customization. Changing the icons, deleting icons,etc

Oh well can't have everything but overall I think it was a great update and I can't wait to see the accessories that come out after the release of the sdk. Gamepad? Keyboard? :D
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They've been working on a gamepad already

http://www.icontrolpad.com/
 
MasterNile said:
Sure it works and serves a purpose as I said, but not everyone needs/wants it so why not give an option to disable it? Because once again Apple would rather tell you what you want then to give you options.
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Or, theyd rather not have to deal with tons of whiners and morons who cant figure out why when in their pocket, apps are opening, the battery is dying, and they are sending random calls to people....
 
MasterNile said:
Why not wait until they enable the feature you want? Future updates I view as a bonus on top of my purchase, not something I require otherwise I would have got something with that feature.
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Viewing it as a bonus ? Updating the firmware and including new features is something that is expected. isn't that the point of having something thats updatable ?
 
redchannel said:
Apple adds new features to most of the firmware updates :confused:
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So, because apple adds features, ones you have NO idea about, your going to buy a device in the hopes that some day, at some time, they will add that certain feature?

Well, that makes sense.

What im saying is if you have no reason to beleive they will add a certain functionality (other than you wanting it) why would anyone EXPECT them to add it?
 
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Wow. There really are a lot of whiners in this world. And I swear most of them congregate on this forum. No pleasing some people. It's ridiculous.
 
NT1440 said:
So, because apple adds features, ones you have NO idea about, your going to buy a device in the hopes that some day, at some time, they will add that certain feature?

Well, that makes sense.

What im saying is if you have no reason to beleive they will add a certain functionality (other than you wanting it) why would anyone EXPECT them to add it?
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Because MMS is a feature that can easily be added into the first gen iphone
 
redchannel said:
Apple adds new features to most of the firmware updates :confused:
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redchannel said:
Viewing it as a bonus ? Updating the firmware is a feature that comes with it ?:confused::confused::confused:
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However how many people bought an iPhone/iPod Touch with the hopes of getting flash? Sure they update features for most of the firmware updates, but they also disable some features with the updates, as I said you can easily jailbreak/unlock your iPhone but not everyone can. Being able to upgrade the firmware certainly is a decent feature, but it's a gamble, you don't know what will be enabled on your phone and what will only be enabled on future versions, so why not wait till the device has the feature you want rather than buying now and waiting 1.5 years or more for something like flash (lite) that other devices already have?
 
redchannel said:
Because MMS is a feature that can easily be added into the first gen iphone
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Again, if you have NO IDEA its coming, other than that sad rationale, why are you buying something in mere hope that they will?

I have no sympathy for bad shoppers.
 
couple thoughs,

MMS-maybe att requires it be done over 3g for the sake of their network, so your jailbreak over edge may work, but not an option for apple to implement on every iphone.

Ipod touch upgrade fee-Required by accounting law, but it could be $1 or $.01.

Compared to pre-software 3.0 brings hardware a year or 2 behind the pre to similar usefulness. While no multitasking, the pre has a faster chip and I hope to see some more powerful iphone hardware come this summer that allows multitasking with multiple apps open (not battery killing background processes that run when you hit the sleep button)

Voice Dialing-lots of situations it could be usefull, but while driving should not be one of them. Some studies have shown that drivers talking on wireless bluetooth are just as distracted as those holding the phone to their head, having a bluetooth doesn't stop your brain from diverting it's attention from the most important task at hand, keeping you alive when you are traveling at a velocity at which if you slow down improperly (crash) you die.

I don't know if any states ban all cell phone use while driving yet, but I hope they do. I have found myself engrossed enough with a hands free phone conversation that I am sure it limited my ability to react to changes that could threaten my life and others. I feel fortunate nothing bad happened. As a frequent pedestrian, I would like to see all cellphone use illegal, voice dial and handsfree included. If you NEED to talk while moving in a car, take a cab or get a driver. Driving is the most dangerous thing you do, nothing else in your daily life risks your life as much, OR THE LIVES OF OTHERS. Anything that takes away from 100% concentration on the road should be illegal, since I worry about many of the idiots on the road even when they give it their full 100%....
 
hmmm i find it strange though, with all these new applications such as peer to peer connectivity, stereo bluetooth, turn by turn gps, not one thing mentioned about the battery of the phone. Now for a fact that for those using XGPS the battery doesnt last long so how about apps such as peer to peer connectivity? surely they could've said something about the battery of the iphone ????
 
ghettochris said:
couple thoughs,

MMS-maybe att requires it be done over 3g for the sake of their network, so your jailbreak over edge may work, but not an option for apple to implement on every iphone.

Ipod touch upgrade fee-Required by accounting law, but it could be $1 or $.01.

Compared to pre-software 3.0 brings hardware a year or 2 behind the pre to similar usefulness. While no multitasking, the pre has a faster chip and I hope to see some more powerful iphone hardware come this summer that allows multitasking with multiple apps open (not battery killing background processes that run when you hit the sleep button)

Voice Dialing-lots of situations it could be usefull, but while driving should not be one of them. Some studies have shown that drivers talking on wireless bluetooth are just as distracted as those holding the phone to their head, having a bluetooth doesn't stop your brain from diverting it's attention from the most important task at hand, keeping you alive when you are traveling at a velocity at which if you slow down improperly (crash) you die.

I don't know if any states ban all cell phone use while driving yet, but I hope they do. I have found myself engrossed enough with a hands free phone conversation that I am sure it limited my ability to react to changes that could threaten my life and others. I feel fortunate nothing bad happened. As a frequent pedestrian, I would like to see all cellphone use illegal, voice dial and handsfree included. If you NEED to talk while moving in a car, take a cab or get a driver. Driving is the most dangerous thing you do, nothing else in your daily life risks your life as much, OR THE LIVES OF OTHERS. Anything that takes away from 100% concentration on the road should be illegal, since I worry about many of the idiots on the road even when they give it their full 100%....
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I work at AT&T and i know for a fact that MMS can be used over EDGE
 
redchannel said:
I work at AT&T and i know for a fact that MMS can be used over EDGE
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Didn't say it can't, just that ATT might not have wanted everyone with a 1g iphone to be sending mms on edge for whatever reason, shouldn't be any more crippling to edge than safari.
 
MasterNile said:
easily by using different protocols that adds line of code to the new devices that won't use it therefore adding pointless bloatware to most devices, remember they're trying NOT to be microsoft.
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Can you put that in plain english for me ? I'm not sure i understand.
 
lock any app

what i would have liked to see is the ability to passcode lock any individual program, manageable through itunes.

I would like to be able to hand off my phone to someone to play games on without worrying about them reading my mail or looking at my contacts, facebook app, or others. Being able to lock whatever apps I wanted would be awesome.
 
redchannel said:
Can you put that in plain english for me ? I'm not sure i understand.
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Why put in legacy support for a device they will stop supporting in a year or two?

This is Apple, they like to make sure everyone is on current hardware, not Microsoft, who bends over to legacy so much it causes most of the problems people associate with windows.
 
ghettochris said:
Didn't say it can't, just that ATT might not have wanted everyone with a 1g iphone to be sending mms on edge for whatever reason, shouldn't be any more crippling to edge than safari.
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I can understand that. ATT wants 1st Gen iPhone users on 3G in order to make more money. Apple wants 1st Gen iPhone users to buy new phones for more money. I just think from a consumer stand point that if i want MMS on my 1st Gen i gotta pay more when i shouldn't have to.
 
NT1440 said:
Why put in legacy support for a device they will stop supporting in a year or two?

This is Apple, they like to make sure everyone is on current hardware, not Microsoft, who bends over to legacy so much it causes most of the problems people associate with windows.
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Why would i stop using my 1st Gen iPhone ? Granite its on EDGE, but its working perfectly fine.
 
redchannel said:
Can you put that in plain english for me ? I'm not sure i understand.
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From my current understanding the coding for MMS over 3G uses different code than MMS over EDGE would, which would mean they'd have to include both codes if they wanted to enable MMS over EDGE and 3G, this would add more code to most of the devices (iPhone 3G and the next gen iPhone) and they wouldn't need the code to use MMS over EDGE network, so it would take up more room on future releases to support technology that will be 2 years old by the time the software is actually released. This is what Microsoft does, it has support for both new and old technology in the OS which is why their OS tends to take up more room then Mac OS X and will be even more noticeable when Apple drops PPC support.
 
redchannel said:
Why would i stop using my 1st Gen iPhone ? Granite its on EDGE, but its working perfectly fine.
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Well then you arent the average cellphone consumer who upgrades everytime their plan ends.

Its apples way of nudging you into the direction of being current.
 
NT1440 said:
Well then you arent the average cellphone consumer who upgrades everytime their plan ends.

Its apples way of nudging you into the direction of being current.
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Agreed, my sister in law pays $100-$300 updating her cellphone and buys a new one at least once a year. And by the time she upgrades she doesn't even know how to use her current one to it's full potential. Me, I've only bought one cellphone in my life for $100 and found I didn't need it. I'd rather use my iPod Touch as a phone for free with a Google Voice App and wifi, I hate monthly fees.
 
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